the galah Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) So the above stable has again made the headlines. Same old same old unfortunately. There was a stable inspection done this morning and the result is the above horse was scratched under the rule that refers to administration of a substance on raceday. Well done to those that uncovered the cheating. Perhaps surprising the stable got to start the remainder of their team on the day. Edited November 8, 2022 by the galah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 No surprises here. What's the saying. Once a cheat, always a cheat. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 hours ago, the galah said: Well done to those that uncovered the cheating. Alleged "cheating"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forbury Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Alleged "cheating"! That's right until proven but they have the power to do so and did for a good reason they thought they have evidence of cheating.we wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Nothing has been published yet? Are we allowed to know what Phil Burrows is accused of? Was he potted or was stipes in trees again? Do not think many of them would be agile enough to climb any trees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forbury Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Brodie said: Nothing has been published yet? Are we allowed to know what Phil Burrows is accused of? Was he potted or was stipes in trees again? Do not think many of them would be agile enough to climb any trees! Probably in the trees as some must be monkeys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Apathy and tolerance is killing our industry - Harnesslink 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 8 hours ago, Forbury said: Probably in the trees as some must be monkeys 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Brodie said: Nothing has been published yet? Are we allowed to know what Phil Burrows is accused of? Brodie old fruit, I know it can be difficult in the old folks home, but please try and make some effort to keep up — this has been out for the best part of 2 days: "Acting on a report provided by Racing Investigators who completed a stable inspection at the training premises of P Burrows this morning, Stewards ordered that RAKERO REBEL be scratched from Race 7 acting under Rule 213(1)(c). An investigation was opened into this matter. Swab samples were taken on course from RAKERO STORM (Race 2), MUSCLE BANK (Race 3), MILLWOOD INDIE (Race 4) and RAKERO REBEL." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Taku Umanga said: Apathy and tolerance is killing our industry - Harnesslink Brodie does not condone cheating whatsoever, as you know always wants FAIRNESS, but that is not what is happening in the world nowadays! Harness racing has progressively become far harder to make it pay financially for owners and trainers!!! Due to this fact I believe that many trainers are feeling to compete with the bigger more successful stables they are making the decision to break the harness racing laws . The microscopic no. Of trainers getting caught are not bad people but are obviously just wanting results for the horses owners and themselves. Without winning races their horse training careers will be over! I reiterate I am not condoning cheating, but there is just so much more pressure on trainers than there used to be, just like in. All other industries. Increased Pressures have been put on most people and business now due to the many bad Government decisions over the past few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Basil said: Brodie old fruit, I know it can be difficult in the old folks home, but please try and make some effort to keep up — this has been out for the best part of 2 days: "Acting on a report provided by Racing Investigators who completed a stable inspection at the training premises of P Burrows this morning, Stewards ordered that RAKERO REBEL be scratched from Race 7 acting under Rule 213(1)(c). An investigation was opened into this matter. Swab samples were taken on course from RAKERO STORM (Race 2), MUSCLE BANK (Race 3), MILLWOOD INDIE (Race 4) and RAKERO REBEL." Basil, totally agree, Brodie not keeping up with the play with harness nowadays, but that is no problem for me. Other projects have taken priority and more profitable. Great that I have other contributors on this Premier Racing Forum to help me out. Hope you are keeping well Basil? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robalan Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 There's an old saying. "If your trainer is not getting positives, he's not trying hard enough" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHorseman Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I see 7 horses have had a stable change from the Burrows stable. Has Burrows been side-lined whilst the investigation takes place? Anyone know the latest on the investigation and any sanctions on Burrows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I don't doubt burrows will be found guilty. The stables of him, McGrath smell of a stench! Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 I see M Anderson got 5 years 3 months a couple of weeks back. Of note,was the lack of media coverage of such a lengthy disqualification. I would have thought it might have got a mention in hrnz news,or the likes of harnesslink might have given it a mention. Makes you wonder what those who conrtol the content of such sites consider newsworthy. They must think Out of sight,out of mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 13 hours ago, the galah said: I see M Anderson got 5 years 3 months a couple of weeks back. Of note,was the lack of media coverage of such a lengthy disqualification. I would have thought it might have got a mention in hrnz news,or the likes of harnesslink might have given it a mention. Makes you wonder what those who conrtol the content of such sites consider newsworthy. They must think Out of sight,out of mind. Why is it newsworthy for HRNZ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Why is it newsworthy for HRNZ? Because its information about the consequences of serious breaches of hrnz rules and people have an interest in that. Also, I would have thought by giving it coverage it may discourage others from committing such serious offences. One is left to wonder,given some of the background details of this case, does that explain why the lack of coverage. Who knows,but its an obvious thing to consider. Then you are left wondering about what else? Edited March 24, 2023 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, the galah said: Because its information about the consequences of serious breaches of hrnz rules and people have an interest in that. Also, I would have thought by giving it coverage it may discourage others from committing such serious offences. One is left to wonder,given some of the background details of this case, does that explain why the lack of coverage. Who knows,but its an obvious thing to consider. Then you are left wondering about what else? It's all published on the RIB site. Why make a news item out of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 11/11/2022 at 8:25 AM, Robalan said: There's an old saying. "If your trainer is not getting positives, he's not trying hard enough" What about his horses though ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 19 hours ago, Gammalite said: What about his horses though ?? Are you suggesting all the horses should be retired because racing is too stressful? BTW you can get a drug positive for administering a legal drug that improves the health of a horse. Sometimes trainers push the withholding period a tad close or a horses metabolism is not the same as the average horse or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: 20 hours ago, Gammalite said: What about his horses though ?? Are you suggesting all the horses should be retired because racing is too stressful? Was just having a little joke Chief about the Trainer himself personally Testing Positive to something. not the horses. To answer your question though, racing can be pretty stressful for horses. they are certainly put under a lot of strain and injury (hoof and tendon mainly) are not that uncommon . not mention internal strain. But they do love to run , and are able to carry loads , etc and have helped out pulling things from Milkcarts to stagecoaches to cannons into battle for centuries. so No . no need to retire while doing something with their lives lol...... The Trainer gets best results with the best diet/add-ins and technique money can buy. To achieve this result >>>>>>>>>>>If you look good , you feel good , then you go good ? (the same for people too lol 😄) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Gammalite said: To achieve this result >>>>>>>>>>>If you look good , you feel good , then you go good ? (the same for people too lol 😄) looks do win races . never see ugly horse win group1 racers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 11 hours ago, paleface adios said: looks do win races . never see ugly horse win group1 racers Manaroa! the ugly duckling! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleface adios Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Brodie said: Manaroa! the ugly duckling! showing your age now old fella lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Did they concrete the passing lane after the the first yesterday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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