Meanwhile no one focuses on the real issues!

[Chief Stipe]

 

[Gammalite]

The Real issues ?? they would be  Currently 1/  the World Cup of Football = tick,  2/ Test cricket First Test = tick , 

3/  The famous time-honoured Interdominion of Harness racing between Australia and New Zealand = cross sadly.

No bloody kiwis turned up except the cool Iceman Tony and his great trotter Bolt for Brilliance. Hope he wins It ok.   

[paleface adios]

33 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

The Real issues ?? they would be  Currently 1/  the World Cup of Football = tick,  2/ Test cricket First Test = tick , 

3/  The famous time-honoured Interdominion of Harness racing between Australia and New Zealand = cross sadly.

No bloody kiwis turned up except the cool Iceman Tony and his great trotter Bolt for Brilliance. Hope he wins It ok.   

no John mcmullan last night all horses scr why was that? 

[Gammalite]

22 minutes ago, paleface adios said:

no John mcmullan last night all horses scr why was that? 

Probably celebrating after the World Cup Football and huge First Cricket Test results (day 1) ?? 😂

He's a good man that John Jnr (father of champs Pete, Narissa, Danielle and Taleah) a real top bloke I ever raced against.

Here's the excuse I'll paste here>>>>>>

Trainer John McMullen advised Stewards he had incurred a float breakdown en route to the track and would be scratching all horses trained by him engaged to race in tonight’s meeting. 

[Gammalite]

I believe Mr McGrath has solved the main issue worrying horsemen and harness racing integrity by withdrawing his application . so issue solved.

The Invercargill trotting club (like and club going , even Interdominion council do it to suit ) Should be Allowed to program whatever race conditions they like. It's their race. If they have enough money available this year or any year to make it a Group 1 at $100,000 , then Group 1 horses should be encouraged to start. No Issue. 

Issue Not Solved = demolishing the Noel Taylor Museum for a car park at Alexandra Park ?? and just having all that remarkable memrorablia, packed in boxes?  like has happened at Addington and Ellerslie too apparently. 

[Blossom lady]

Quite amusing Facebook posts around this letter on the enthusiasts page. 
Couple of our regulars with posts on there. Old longowner up to his neck in his defence of his cheating former trainer!! With a little cameo from htp

[hunterthepunter]

1 hour ago, Blossom lady said:

Quite amusing Facebook posts around this letter on the enthusiasts page. 
Couple of our regulars with posts on there. Old longowner up to his neck in his defence of his cheating former trainer!! With a little cameo from htp

Nigel bit better trainer than the leather cap or HOOVER WENDY

[Blossom lady]

2 hours ago, hunterthepunter said:

Nigel bit better trainer than the leather cap or HOOVER WENDY

Both group 1 winning trainers. 
wonder who most people would say was the most honest trainer is!!

who or what is Hoover Wendy?

any relation to Henry?

[hunterthepunter]

46 minutes ago, Blossom lady said:

 

who or what is Hoover 

ask the crop rogue  fella he will tell you who the hoover is lol

[Brodie]

On 2/12/2022 at 1:08 PM, Gammalite said:

I believe Mr McGrath has solved the main issue worrying horsemen and harness racing integrity by withdrawing his application . so issue solved.

The Invercargill trotting club (like and club going , even Interdominion council do it to suit ) Should be Allowed to program whatever race conditions they like. It's their race. If they have enough money available this year or any year to make it a Group 1 at $100,000 , then Group 1 horses should be encouraged to start. No Issue. 

Issue Not Solved = demolishing the Noel Taylor Museum for a car park at Alexandra Park ?? and just having all that remarkable memrorablia, packed in boxes?  like has happened at Addington and Ellerslie too apparently. 

Gammalite, the big problem is that Invercargill has not got the money to finance a 100k race, in fact harness racing has not got the money to finance a 100k race!!

Watch this space as the true picture in regards to the overpayment of stake money in NZ comes out!

Harness stakes are going  to be reduced next season or things are going to become dire!!

There is no way on earth that most clubs can be paying the current stakes with the amount of money the NZ Tab is going go be paying out next season.

You only need go look at the betting pools to see that things are far from rosey!

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Brodie

[Gammalite]

3 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Gammalite, the big problem is that Invercargill has not got the money to finance a 100k race, in fact harness racing has not got the money to finance a 100k race!!

Yes it is a lot of money for a 'country' Cup. maybe they have an Underwriter of some kind?

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

Yes it is a lot of money for a 'country' Cup. maybe they have an Underwriter of some kind?

Not that I am aware of Gamma.

There has to be a reduction in stakes next season or there is going to be major issues.

The government will not be bailing out NZ racing again.

The figures that I am seeing just do not add up to being able to afford the current stakes.

Brodie is on the money.

Watch this space!

[mikeynz]

12 hours ago, Brodie said:

Not that I am aware of Gamma.

There has to be a reduction in stakes next season or there is going to be major issues.

The government will not be bailing out NZ racing again.

The figures that I am seeing just do not add up to being able to afford the current stakes.

Brodie is on the money.

Watch this space!

 I often check out the quaddie pools, some very poor totals, not just for Auckland, Southland ain't much better, so many races being won by short priced favourites but reality is the product harness is mostly putting up is poor, poor fields produce poor turnover, simple.

Grass tracks seem as popular as ever.

Invercargill might well produce a good field for its cup race, but it's a twilight meeting on a saturday, most people's racing interest at that time is centered on aussie racing, today a feature meet at Addington, sunday, trackside 1, I'd say the figures should be quite good, Invercargill I suspect a different result.

Senz are at Addington today till 5, not even broadcasting Self Assureds race, I dont even think they broadcast the trots on saturdays no more, I stand to be corrected though, harness racing is just fading into insignificance mostly.

[Rangatira]

14 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Yes it is a lot of money for a 'country' Cup. maybe they have an Underwriter of some kind?

Brodsters 0900 head to head line strongly suggests Undertaker over Underwriter.

[mikeynz]

Just had a break so watched the just run race from Addington, dont look like much of a crowd.

That guy on trackside is a poor speaker and that fat cunt walking his greyhound gives me the fucking shits as well, every race he seems to crop up lol.

I got work to do so I'm done for now, have a good days punting all, hope you can get one of those 3 dollar longshots

 

[the galah]

27 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

Just had a break so watched the just run race from Addington, dont look like much of a crowd.

That guy on trackside is a poor speaker and that fat cunt walking his greyhound gives me the fucking shits as well, every race he seems to crop up lol.

I got work to do so I'm done for now, have a good days punting all, hope you can get one of those 3 dollar longshots

 

Looks an entertaining days racing,high quality.

But you can't but help think the results so far just reinforce in the minds of the ever reducing number of owners/trainers/breeders still left in the sport,that they are wasting there time if they want to have a horse good enough to win on days like this. Reality is their is no hope for them. 

Its a day where they are running record times,and when it comes to the pacers the all stars are simply way better than the telfers who are way better than the dunns. The rest are just there to get their heads kicked in . Don't understand why some bother myself. Each to their own i suppose.

At least the trotters have don't have such dominance,but really only p nairn stopping that. Still the 2 year old of the all starts just sat 3 wide the first round,then 5 wide down the back ,then won with a leg in the air in a nz record.

So,while you must applaud the winners and their performances,anyone watching would have to have their head in the sand to not realise such dominance is definitely a very bad thing for overall future participation.

As to the favorites. Well you could say their have been a couple of upsets today.But,then you could also say you are right in that favorites tend to dominate tracks like addington.  

I just had a look at the last 26 races won at addington,and half of them have been won by horses paying $3 or under.

As to crowd size,you could say it looks ok,but in reality pre covid you would have got as many on a fibe day at a grass track meeting in canterbury. I did notice motukarara had a very small crowd by their normal standards yesterday.

I'm off,i will now watch how akuta goes. Must win based on how the rest of stable is going.

[the galah]

9 minutes ago, the galah said:

 

I'm off,i will now watch how akuta goes. Must win based on how the rest of stable is going.

Well there you go,wins by 6 lengths in nz record time.Could have won by double that if he had wanted.  I didn't bother to have a bet,but $2.20 seemed money for jam as they say.

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by the galah

[Brodie]

54 minutes ago, the galah said:

Looks an entertaining days racing,high quality.

But you can't but help think the results so far just reinforce in the minds of the ever reducing number of owners/trainers/breeders still left in the sport,that they are wasting there time if they want to have a horse good enough to win on days like this. Reality is their is no hope for them. 

Its a day where they are running record times,and when it comes to the pacers the all stars are simply way better than the telfers who are way better than the dunns. The rest are just there to get their heads kicked in . Don't understand why some bother myself. Each to their own i suppose.

At least the trotters have don't have such dominance,but really only p nairn stopping that. Still the 2 year old of the all starts just sat 3 wide the first round,then 5 wide down the back ,then won with a leg in the air in a nz record.

So,while you must applaud the winners and their performances,anyone watching would have to have their head in the sand to not realise such dominance is definitely a very bad thing for overall future participation.

As to the favorites. Well you could say their have been a couple of upsets today.But,then you could also say you are right in that favorites tend to dominate tracks like addington.  

I just had a look at the last 26 races won at addington,and half of them have been won by horses paying $3 or under.

As to crowd size,you could say it looks ok,but in reality pre covid you would have got as many on a fibe day at a grass track meeting in canterbury. I did notice motukarara had a very small crowd by their normal standards yesterday.

I'm off,i will now watch how akuta goes. Must win based on how the rest of stable is going.

You are correct Galah, seems like not too many apart from the normal owners who always seem to plunder the major stakes.

Tou are correct you are pushing the proverbial uphill if you are wanting to win major stake money unless you are in the blue and silver. But then what has it cost you to win it?

Punting wise, these meetings are such a waste of time unless you are the favoured Boys Get Paid!

The industry is not improving under the current guidance.

The person who is actually trying to promote harness racing, Nigel Armstrong of Harness Racing Unhinged and putting in the most effort is TOTALLY UNPAID, so shows you how things are going!

As for stable domination it just is not healthy for harness racing and you will find that owners are getting the stitch.