How to FIX NZ Racing.

[Joe Bloggs]

Doomed has raised the issue no-one has an idea how to fix NZ Racing, so I might be setting a precedence here, but I'm having a go.

A. Sack all those on 200, 000+ per annum.

B. Make all those at executive decision level reapply for their jobs, 

C. Call for consultation from industry professionals across the board, even breeders who have been driving their own agenda /s for decades. [You can learn from fools even, quote AA Armanasco]

D. Licence oncourse bookmakers./and corporate bookmakers

E. Bring in AUS gambling professionals who can advise on how TAB can become profitable.

F. Tell Messara he's to stay out of it.

G. Tell Messara's advisors to stay well out of it.

H.  Negotiate with GOV re a new tax structure for racing as an emerging/salvaged industry.

I. Call for assistance from GOV re funding a 'learn how you go ' program in schools for careers with horses, as per AUS aimed specifically at school leavers and TAFE/POLYTECH........etc.

J. Stop funding for closed race sales series, that funding goes to infrastructure and stakes for maiden and two years old racing.

K. To tax the export of all horses to ASIA, at all levels as these horses diminish the betting pools. Tax both parties seller and buyer.

L. Encourage all race clubs to attract sponsors and volunteers, as country clubs do in AUS.

M. Negotiate with approved gambling agencies for racecourse signage and easily viewed advertising for TV purposes.

All the above suggestions are part and parcel of the behemoth racing industry here, tried and true, even the tax on exported horses at 49% capital gains......

We owned and operated a very successful marketing company, so much so that QANTAS approached us to assist them in putting together their South American product when they launched to Buenos Aires.

 Marketing you see, drives sales, and to sell NZ Racing to the public who in the wash up will decide if it survives  is paramount therefore root and branch reform needs to be implemented immediately. 

Here in QLD the GOV recognised the importance of the racing industry and acted accordingly, in most states of Australia the respective Governments work with racing officialdom, an exception is South Australia who are in the worst condition of all states, the new GOV might change that as pain is natures warning, being physical or financial.

The mood at the sales here on the Gold Coast yesterday was of confidence and excitement, not doom and gloom, so, I've only touched on the 'deemed necessary' changes and improvements and the retrenchment packages will be a financial short term hiccup, however it needs to happen if you want a future for your kids in this industry.

If anyone from Petone reads this, mainly you Mr Sharrock, please feel free to plagiarise any content and implement it for the betterment......after all Racing is a big ship......it carries a lot of passengers, it should be a pleasure cruise, not a voyage of the Titanic.

[nomates]

15 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Doomed has raised the issue no-one has an idea how to fix NZ Racing, so I might be setting a precedence here, but I'm having a go.

A. Sack all those on 200, 000+ per annum.

B. Make all those at executive decision level reapply for their jobs, 

C. Call for consultation from industry professionals across the board, even breeders who have been driving their own agenda /s for decades. [You can learn from fools even, quote AA Armanasco]

D. Licence oncourse bookmakers./and corporate bookmakers

E. Bring in AUS gambling professionals who can advise on how TAB can become profitable.

F. Tell Messara he's to stay out of it.

G. Tell Messara's advisors to stay well out of it.

H.  Negotiate with GOV re a new tax structure for racing as an emerging/salvaged industry.

I. Call for assistance from GOV re funding a 'learn how you go ' program in schools for careers with horses, as per AUS aimed specifically at school leavers and TAFE/POLYTECH........etc.

J. Stop funding for closed race sales series, that funding goes to infrastructure and stakes for maiden and two years old racing.

K. To tax the export of all horses to ASIA, at all levels as these horses diminish the betting pools. Tax both parties seller and buyer.

L. Encourage all race clubs to attract sponsors and volunteers, as country clubs do in AUS.

M. Negotiate with approved gambling agencies for racecourse signage and easily viewed advertising for TV purposes.

All the above suggestions are part and parcel of the behemoth racing industry here, tried and true, even the tax on exported horses at 49% capital gains......

We owned and operated a very successful marketing company, so much so that QANTAS approached us to assist them in putting together their South American product when they launched to Buenos Aires.

 Marketing you see, drives sales, and to sell NZ Racing to the public who in the wash up will decide if it survives  is paramount therefore root and branch reform needs to be implemented immediately. 

Here in QLD the GOV recognised the importance of the racing industry and acted accordingly, in most states of Australia the respective Governments work with racing officialdom, an exception is South Australia who are in the worst condition of all states, the new GOV might change that as pain is natures warning, being physical or financial.

The mood at the sales here on the Gold Coast yesterday was of confidence and excitement, not doom and gloom, so, I've only touched on the 'deemed necessary' changes and improvements and the retrenchment packages will be a financial short term hiccup, however it needs to happen if you want a future for your kids in this industry.

If anyone from Petone reads this, mainly you Mr Sharrock, please feel free to plagiarise any content and implement it for the betterment......after all Racing is a big ship......it carries a lot of passengers, it should be a pleasure cruise, not a voyage of the Titanic.

NZTR are implementing the above as their new ETHOS and code of conduct .

They have already had a 75% resignation rate , no one can live up to it .

[Peanut]

Agree with lots of that but one of the main problem we have is that the Captain you mention of the Titanic has only ever driven little runabouts in the past and the waters are obviously way too deep and rough for him.  

[curious]

8 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said:

L. Encourage all race clubs to attract sponsors and volunteers, as country clubs do in AUS.

Country clubs do that here too. Mostly well

[Freda]

A bit off topic, but - why the move to Cambridge for NZTR ?   

How is that supposed to help the industry?  

Edited January 19, 2023 by Freda

[nomates]

I think this thread could be in use for a decade at the minimum .

[Special Agent]

When the rest of the world is "global" so to speak racing in NZ up and physically moves to a small place near the top of the country.

As NZTR is merely administration why do they need to be "where the action" is?  It makes no sense why the clerks and data entry operators need to smell the horse dung while they work.

If the Grand Tour is anything to go by they have this deluded idea of what is cool and hip to young and old, mostly young, but they are well short of the mark.

NZTR are so good at telling clubs they need to save money for the industry then spend up on rubbish ideas like there is no tomorrow.

[Doomed]

3 hours ago, Freda said:

A bit off topic, but - why the move to Cambridge for NZTR ?   

How is that supposed to help the industry?  

Gets them further away from the SI and closer to the breeders. Probably consolidating for one last stand. Probably more of Custer's last stand rather than Dunkirk, as from Dunkirk they actually got to escape and come again. There won't be any escaping with this lot, except for individuals who get the golden handshake.

I suppose they are desperately hoping that Winston gets in again and funds another 5 AWTs.

[Freda]

Word is that more than one or two are not happy to shift.

[Doomed]

59 minutes ago, Freda said:

Word is that more than one or two are not happy to shift.

And ironically the 1 or 2 who made the big decision will probably be gone in a couple of years anyhow.

 

When is the big shift scheduled for and do they have a site planned in Cambridge?

The idea behind Wgtn always used to be that people could easily fly in from anywhere in the country for meetings etc. I suppose hiding in Cambridge that stops any of the unruly types from the South flying in to abuse them for cock ups. I doubt that Reefton even knows where Cambridge is, and they will never again have to deal with Southlanders.

[Joe Bloggs]

Word is that property values in Cambridge have just taken a dive.......

[Huey]

5 hours ago, nomates said:

I think this thread could be in use for a decade at the minimum .

possibly 5 years then renamed -" How to restart racing in NZ!"

[Special Agent]

Where do all these ground breaking ideas come from?  And the free rein that must obviously apply?

Won't there be that old chestnut "it makes commercial sense just to rent rather than own"?  Because the Racing Conference had their own offices in town which when they became valuable were sold and basically pissed up the wall by much more intelligent and business savy overpaid gits.

Could this qualify as white collar crime?  I reckon some learned person with time on their hands should look into the actions of NZTR and all clubs to see if any should be carted off in handcuffs.  Too many are blase when handling others' money, especially not for profit racing clubs.

[Joe Bloggs]

Well firstly you'll have to write accountability into your constitution SA, and the penalties for lack of. Therein lays the problem, across the board in NZ there is SFA accountability, Health, Retail, Racing.....it never ends, once that's addressed then there might be progress.

Bayliss, Purcell and Saundry should have been held to account, and the clowns/fools that appointed them, did they break any laws?...probably not, but in regards to TAB NZ, a forensic investigation to that fiasco/charade should have instigated for sure......you can't gaol people for stupidity, otherwise the 3 named above would be doing life, no parole!

[nomates]

6 hours ago, Doomed said:

And ironically the 1 or 2 who made the big decision will probably be gone in a couple of years anyhow.

 

When is the big shift scheduled for and do they have a site planned in Cambridge?

The idea behind Wgtn always used to be that people could easily fly in from anywhere in the country for meetings etc. I suppose hiding in Cambridge that stops any of the unruly types from the South flying in to abuse them for cock ups. I doubt that Reefton even knows where Cambridge is, and they will never again have to deal with Southlanders.

People in the rest of the country don't have enough money anymore to fly anywhere. 

[nomates]

4 hours ago, Huey said:

possibly 5 years then renamed -" How to restart racing in NZ!"

Yes but property values in Wellington have risen. 

[nomates]

1 hour ago, Special Agent said:

Where do all these ground breaking ideas come from?  And the free rein that must obviously apply?

Won't there be that old chestnut "it makes commercial sense just to rent rather than own"?  Because the Racing Conference had their own offices in town which when they became valuable were sold and basically pissed up the wall by much more intelligent and business savy overpaid gits.

Could this qualify as white collar crime?  I reckon some learned person with time on their hands should look into the actions of NZTR and all clubs to see if any should be carted off in handcuffs.  Too many are blase when handling others' money, especially not for profit racing clubs.

Stupidity isn't a crime otherwise some in nztr would never see the light of day again. 

[Assange]

1 hour ago, nomates said:

Stupidity isn't a crime otherwise some in nztr would never see the light of day again. 

Well said. Looks like the death knoll of central districts racing.

[Freda]

10 hours ago, Assange said:

Well said. Looks like the death knoll of central districts racing.

Why just the CD ?

[Assange]

3 hours ago, Freda said:

Why just the CD ?

Because if NZTR move to Cambridge, do you think they will bother so much with the country further south. Had they not thought how much any relocation costs are? Or don't they care.

[Freda]

29 minutes ago, Assange said:

Because if NZTR move to Cambridge, do you think they will bother so much with the country further south. Had they not thought how much any relocation costs are? Or don't they care.

I don't think they bother too much with the country WAY further south either... and clearly, they don't care.

[holy ravioli]

re K....tax,tax and more tax,that's all the right come up..with!🤣

[Chief Stipe]

18 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

re K....tax,tax and more tax,that's all the right come up..with!🤣

You left out "cut" as in tax cut!

All the left come up with is take, take, take.

Hopefully we will see a promise to slash the bureaucrats employed by Government AND by Racing.

PS:  I do recall predicting Ardern would be gone by February.

[Joe Bloggs]

Ah, but they will save heaps on retrenchments wont they?.........I cant see all those Welly and Hutt Valley mortgage holders putting their hands up to troop north, moving south to Chch was never going to work as they would have needed iron shutters on the windows to deter stone throwing, and the odd Molotov cocktail.....

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Ah, but they will save heaps on retrenchments wont they?.........I cant see all those Welly and Hutt Valley mortgage holders putting their hands up to troop north, moving south to Chch was never going to work as they would have needed iron shutters on the windows to deter stone throwing, and the odd Molotov cocktail.....

I'm sure Cambridge will give them a rent free option.  Second thoughts probably not.  They and the TAB/Trackside are still paying market rent to Windsor Park for the Parnell premises aren't they?