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Nope I just directly quoted you. You started out saying 2 months then agreed with Teaz when he said 3. Didn't have to change anything to fit any narrative.

Shows you how way out the "Budget" was!!! @JJ Flash how does this compare to 2018-19? PS: Are you watching re-runs of your favourite children's shows or are you showing your juvenile side as the TAB NZ drum major?

More Blue colours for you to worry about @the galah!!

Breaking news. Hayden Cullen and Mark Purdon to start a new training partnership on 1 October 2021. The sabbatical is over! @Brodie on the money again?

The drive looked like it deserved that long Pardon?

No whether I do or not is a personal opinion. I don't agree. Does you inferring that a Trainer who got done for personal recreational drugs is bound to be using PED's on their horses not making it about personalities? Well we don't know in this case how the rules are going to be applied yet. I would argue that the case doesn't warrant the 3 months you advocate. It is you that has pulled "the personalities" card. A standard deflection is it not?

It is a colloquial figure of speed @the galah. You started this Topic by declaring that Cameron should get a 2 to 3 months so you had a clear opinion on what rule was broken and what the penalty should be. As for "making it about personalities" perhaps I do because I recognise that although the rules can be stated as black and white the interpretation and application of them can be grey. Not that all rules are as black and white as they should. The classic one in that regard being "bringing racing into disrepute"!

Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study US researchers say teenagers are more likely to get vaccine-related myocarditis than end up in hospital with Covid The findings appear to justify UK’s cautious approach to vaccinating teenagers against Covid. Photograph: Ilya Dmitryachev/TASS Ian Sample Science editor @iansample Fri 10 Sep 2021 18.00 BST Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to hospital with a rare side-effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine that causes inflammation of the heart than with Covid itself, US researchers claim. Their analysis of medical data suggests that boys aged 12 to 15, with no underlying medical conditions, are four to six times more likely to be diagnosed with vaccine-related myocarditis than ending up in hospital with Covid over a four-month period. Most children who experienced the rare side-effect had symptoms within days of the second shot of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, though a similar side-effect is seen with the Moderna jab. About 86% of the boys affected required some hospital care, the authors said. Saul Faust, professor of paediatric immunology and infectious diseases at the University of Southampton, who was not involved in the work, said the findings appeared to justify the cautious approach taken on teenage vaccines by the UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccines and Immunisation. The JCVI did not recommend vaccinating healthy 12 to 15-year-olds, but referred the matter to the UK’s chief medical officers who are expected to make a final decision next week. Children aged 12 to 15 who are particularly vulnerable to Covid, or who live with an at-risk person, are eligible for the shots. In the latest study, which has yet to be peer reviewed, Dr Tracy Høeg at the University of California and colleagues analysed adverse reactions to Covid vaccines in US children aged 12 to 17 during the first six months of 2021. They estimate the rate of myocarditis after two shots of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to be 162.2 cases per million for healthy boys aged 12 to 15 and 94 cases per million for healthy boys aged 16 to 17. The equivalent rates for girls were 13.4 and 13 cases per million, respectively. At current US infection rates, the risk of a healthy adolescent being taken to hospital with Covid in the next 120 days is about 44 per million, they said. How reliable the data is and whether similar numbers could be seen in the UK if healthy 12 to 15-year-olds are vaccinated are unclear: vaccine reactions are recorded differently in the US and shots are given at longer time intervals in the UK. According to the UK medicines regulator, the rate of myocarditis after Covid vaccination is only six per million shots of Pfizer/BioNTech. So far, UK children have not been admitted to hospital for Covid in large numbers and may not be at great risk of long Covid. While the recent Clock study found that up to 14% of children who caught Covid may still have symptoms 15 weeks later, levels of fatigue appear similar to those in children who have not caught the virus. This suggests that children may be spared some of the most debilitating problems seen in adult long Covid. Why aren’t children being vaccinated in the UK? – podcast Read more The overwhelming majority of myocarditis appears after the second dose of vaccine, so offering single shots could protect children while reducing their risk of the side effect even further. “While myocarditis after vaccination is exceptionally rare, we may be able to change the first or second doses or combine vaccines differently to avoid the risk at all, once we understand the physiology better,” said Prof Faust. “On balance, there is no urgency to immunise children from a medical perspective, although if schools are unable to maintain education for the vast majority at all times, the overall balance could shift. If my two teenage children are offered the vaccine by the NHS my GP wife and I will have no hesitation in allowing them to receive the vaccine.” Prof Adam Finn, a member of JCVI at the University of Bristol, said: “I stand by the JCVI advice, which is not to go ahead at this time with vaccinating healthy 12 to 15-year-olds on health outcome risk-benefit grounds given the current uncertainty – as there is a small but plausible risk that rare harms could turn out to outweigh modest benefits.” The MHRA said it has been closely monitoring all available data on the potential risk of myocarditis and pericarditis following Covid-19 vaccination. “We have concluded that the Covid-19 vaccines made by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna may be linked with a small increase in the risk of these very rare conditions. The cases tended to be mild and the vast majority recovered with simple treatment and rest,” they added. The spokesperson said the latest study had been considered by the government’s independent advisory body, the Covid-19 vaccines benefit risk expert working group, which found that the interpretation of the findings was limited by the fact that the study did not take into account differences in treatment practices when comparing hospitalisation rates between Covid-19 infections and myocarditis and pericarditis presenting post-vaccination, and there was no assessment of severity and duration of illness after admission. “Safety monitoring strategies are in place for individuals under 18 years, including monitoring myocarditis and pericarditis occurring post-vaccination and the long term outcomes with these events. The MHRA continues to keep the safety of Covid-19 vaccines under close and continual review,” the spokesperson added. This article was amended on 12 September 2021 to add feedback from the MHRA

Well if you get your way you won't be backing him for months. Even though you are happy to take the premium price that he offers when driving.

Eh? Are you now saying that his driving ability is greater than people give him credit for? Not that he gets much chance to display his ability having had only 32 drives this season. Although his strike rate has got better since he became a Public Trainer 8 starts ago.

Saginaw was racing a lot better than it was the previous week. The pace slackened at just the right time on the Showgrounds bend. What many Grandstand drivers don't realise is how different the Showgrounds bend is compared to the home bend. The latter is considerably tighter. That said Saginaw didn't need to be tapped up to keep up nor did it need the ear plugs released. No doubt @the galah is doing a full behind the scenes inquiry. I have no connection to the stable but my observation is that the horse clips itself and I'm guessing that after the Sarah O'Reilly bumper cart drive (which no doubt the punters approved of) the horse was a bit sore, its training was slackened a bit and the recent racing has got it fitter. No doubt ALL the punters got on at $12's and are not so critical this week.

Group 1 RacingRace Reviews Incentivise proves he’s a Group 1 force with Makybe Diva win Incentivise holds off a late challenge by Mo’unga to win the Makybe Diva Stakes. Picture: Getty Images By Gilbert Gardiner 07:08pm • 11 September 2021 13 Comments Hear the boom? Incentivise is the real deal and deserved top seed for the Melbourne Cup. The ex-Queensland galloper, who toyed with opposition in the Sunshine State winning six on the trot by a combined 42 lengths, came to Flemington and conquered in the Group 1 Makybe Diva Stakes. Incentivise led all the way under a cool, calm, composed but, most importantly, confident Brett Prebble steer to hold out proven Group 1 star Mo’unga and Cox Plate champion Sir Dragonet. “I thought he had a nice enough time in front and he got his action good and got on his right leg and it was game over,” Prebble said. “Once he got on his right leg … I was never really doubtful, but it is different under race speed and pressure, but today he was really balanced and really relaxed which is a bonus. “I tried to give him as soft a run as I could just because I thought there is a long way to go. “They came at him, I let them get up and about and I asked him for an effort and he dug deep. “If I had asked him from the top of the straight I reckon he would have opened up and given them something to chase, but I wanted to give him an easy time.” Runner-up Mo’unga impressed, finishing hard after being strung up in traffic on turning for home while Sir Dragonet launched out of the pack for a tantalising Underwood Stakes-Cox Plate trial. While Incentivise had them covered the further they went, Prebble, who won the 2012 Melbourne Cup aboard Green Moon, stopped short of any bold September declarations. Publicly, anyway. “It’s a long way to go, a lot of water to go under the bridge,” Prebble, who boasts a perfect record at Group 1 level this season in Melbourne after winning the Memsie Stakes, said. “I’ve been in this position before but you have to be here on the first Tuesday in November with the horse in form as well. “I think he’s good enough to win it, but, as I said, there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge.” Brett Prebble looks over his shoulder after piloting Incentivise to victory. Picture: Getty Images Trainer Peter Moody also tempered expectations on Incentivise, keen to see the star stayer return to the races next month in the Group 1 Turnbull Stakes. “There is nice improvement to come,” Moody said. “It probably wasn’t the way we intended to go about it but … as we’ve seen, the further he gets into a race, he builds nicely. “Even though they got to him, you knew he was going to keep going. “It was very encouraging at this stage of the spring, we’ve only got one more run between now and the (Melbourne) Cup which will probably be the Turnbull (Stakes). “It’s time to build on it and hopefully we can get him on his Melbourne leg at some stage.”

21 race meetings in OZ today. They were running for $19k a race at Darwin!! Sure about 6 of those meetings were non-tote races but even they were racing for $10k!

All the Jocks do that in OZ - if you are on something going OK you can't afford to be flat footed.

I don't think he was "off the bit" - he is just a laid back dude and relaxes beautifully. You can see him put his head down and go up another gear every time another horse came up to him.

Well you can't knock that run. Remind me not to follow @SLB2.0's tips. Incentivise - every time someone came up to have a look he put his head down and found another gear!

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Shows you Entriviere's win was good. I thought the pace was on the whole way in the 3 yr old race but they went slower. 1:10.24 Last 600m 34.19.

I understand if Riccarton hadn't been shifted to Ashburton there would have been a revolt. Interesting Te Akau scratched their horses at Te Rapa.

Entriviere was extra special. Cleaned that lot up. 1:09.99 last 600m 34.02.

I realise our tracks are heavy today but watching the racing here it looks like they are in slow motion compared to the races in Auz.

Perhaps most of the trainers actually followed the Level 4 lockdown rules and didn't gallop their charges.

You are making an assumption that Trainers have the horse numbers to actually think about entering.

Again the Stakes haven't been at high enough levels in the low grades. Horses are not feeding through or staying around long enough to fill fields further up the chain. Invert the funnel.

Brent Crude. $73. @Brodie on the money.