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The rider of VISHAKHA, K Hercock, reported that her mount had slipped and lost its footing near the 600 metres and a short distance further lost its footing again when slipping and becoming unbalanced approaching the 400 metres. Stewards convened a meeting with riders and course staff and after deliberations the meeting was abandoned by the RIB due to the inconsistency underfoot following a heavy downpour.

MEETING NEWS Awapuni Races 7-10 Have Been Abandoned Today Due To State Of Track Awapuni Races 7-10 Have Been Abandoned Today

NZ Racing on a roll! Although suffering from the effects of abandonment.

You appear to be confusing a number of issues. The Cobalt episode was a debacle and is still playing out. The Feds got it all screwed up - still have. The term False Positives come to mind and Vitamin B1 complexes. So "THE INJECTION" is nothing you can put your finger on. Is the active ingredient "Myth"?

RaceInfo Meetings Meeting News Waverley Meeting Transferred to Awapuni MEETING NEWS Waverley Meeting Transferred to Awapuni Due to a Good2 track on Saturday morning and uncertainty around the amount of rainfall pending, there is potential for the track to be unsafe on raceday. Therefore, a decision has been made to move tomorrow’s meeting (Sunday) from Waverley to Awapuni. This decision has been made after talking to the RIB, both the trainers’ and jockeys’ associations and the Waverley RC. The race meeting will be conducted on the inside bend and the 1650m races will alter to 1550m. The fields will remain the same with scratchings re-instated as is practice in these situations. NZTR appreciates the co-operation of all parties in coming to this decision. This will be a closed door meeting.

Captain Black or Mac Baren.

Spectacular!

What is it? You say it is legitimate so no harm in posting what it is.

Done. Bloody predictive texting..... The floors yours or are you going to some more grammar checking.

Raid on Irish horse racing yard leads to seizure of banned animal remedies The raid took place on the same day as the report of the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee into the IRHB’s anti-doping regulations was released, in which it was determined that the regulations did not fall below international standards /cms_media/module_img/5468/2734224_6_articlesmall_PA-7032050_1_.jpg File photo WED, 10 NOV, 2021 - 15:07 DARAGH Ó CONCHÚIR Irish racing is facing up to the possibility of a major scandal after a raid on a farm on Tuesday led to the seizure of animal remedies that are banned for use in racehorses. The raid, led by Department of Agriculture, Food, and the Marine officials acting on their own investigations and information received, and with support from Gardaí as well as Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board-authorised officers including head of anti-doping, Lynn Hillyer, took place at a premises in Co Kildare. A number of individuals were spoken to, among them a British resident, whose vehicle and phone were impounded as well as the banned substances. Racehorses in training with different trainers were at the premises. “On Tuesday, 9th November, 2021, authorised officers acting on behalf of the Department of Agriculture, Food, and the Marine carried out an enforcement operation supported by Gardaí attached to the Kildare-Laois drug unit and officers from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board,” said a DAFM spokesperson today. “This Department-led operation involved searches and seizure of products as part of an ongoing investigation into equine doping. As this is an ongoing investigation, it would not be appropriate to make any further comment at this time.” “An operation was led by DAFM and the Gardaí with IHRB officers in attendance, which led to a seizure of animal remedies,” an IHRB spokesman confirmed today. “This is an active Department of Agriculture, Food, and the Marine investigation so we will be making no further comment at this time.” The raid took place on the same day as the report of the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee into the IRHB’s anti-doping regulations was released, in which it was determined that the regulations did not fall below international standards. The report did recommend that all favourites and the first five finishers in all races undergo mandatory testing using hair samples. The committee met originally on the back of allegations by respected trainer/breeder Jim Bolger that there was a considerable doping issue in Irish racing.

No evidence that doping rules in Irish horse racing are lower than standards in other countries The report, by the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee, was prompted by allegations from trainer Jim Bolger that drugs are Irish racing’s number one problem /cms_media/module_img/5466/2733342_1_articlesmall_PA-7858587_1_.jpg File photo: PA TUE, 09 NOV, 2021 - 20:46 JAMES WARD A report into horse racing in Ireland has found no evidence that doping regulations fall below international standards. The report, by the Oireachtas Agriculture Committee, was prompted by allegations from trainer Jim Bolger that drugs are Irish racing’s number one problem. It makes 11 recommendations, including that all favourites and those who finish in the top five of any race be mandatorily tested - using hair samples. At no stage was there any evidence found that the testing regulations in Ireland were anything but the highest possible international standards. It also calls for a review of the composition of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board, to address concerns over a lack of independent membership and gender balance. The report, drafted by officials on behalf of Agriculture Committee chair Jackie Cahill, calls on the IHRB to follow governance structures similar to those in the United States. Cahill said: “We’re happy that the testing standards in Irish racing are of the highest possible international standards. “There was a lot of comments in the media and to restore public confidence, we felt that transparency was very important. That is coming out clearly in this report. The IHRB, there’s no question that they’re doing the testing to the highest possible standards. “But to meet the modern criteria that’s there, I think greater transparency was needed. “That’s where a lot of our recommendations are coming from. At no stage was there any evidence found that the testing regulations in Ireland were anything but the highest possible international standards” he added. Bolger, who first raised concerns about doping in the sport, did not appear before the Committee to give evidence during the research of the report. Cahill said the recommendations in the report will give “100% confidence” to the public that the highest standards of doping testing are employed in Ireland. Along with mandatory hair sampling of all favourites and top five finishers after each race, it also calls for facilities to allow for random testing to take place. An independent review of the industry by an outside body, including a full audit of all tests previously carried out, is also recommended to “ensure that Ireland’s drug testing procedures match international best practices”, along with the installation of CCTV at all Irish racecourses and a system of equine traceability. “For the public out there, whether it’s for the betting public or the general public, to ensure that that this kind of comprehensive testing will ensure that that everyone is fully convinced that there can be no wrongdoing involved in horse racing in Ireland,” Cahill said at the report’s launch. He added: “I think this recommendation would be a comprehensive testing post-race, will give the public in general 100% confidence that the highest standards are being employed and that there is a very comprehensive testing regime in place.” The report also calls for greater transparency on the wage structure at IHRB. Board members had declined requests to reveal their salaries at committee hearings investigating the claims made by Bolger. Cahill said it was appropriate the salaries are made public, given that the IHRB is a publicly funded body. He said the allegations about Irish racing had damaged the sport, and called on Agriculture Minister Charlie McConalogue to implement the recommendations as soon as possible. He said: “The comments that appeared in the media did do reputational damage to the sport. There’s no point in me denying that and that was the basis of why we initiated this report. “I think these changes to bring transparency to the IHRB would do an awful lot in restoring that public confidence.”

@Joe Bloggs can you write succinctly in one sentence what your point is?

Never lie. What shit are you smoking tonight or imbibing or injecting?

Case proven your honour.

You on another P bender?

On what basis do you say Frankel had a "turn of foot"? What was his fastest 200m sectional?

Are you backing up at today's price?

There has been some debate in another Topic (a little off Topic!) regarding Show Gate vs Winx. Being a Googlephile and a student of data and analysis I've spent some time in the last few days looking at Winx's ratings and performances. Her and Frankel raced during the same era. He was ranked 6 to 10 points ahead of Winx - she was the highest ranked mare or fully of her era and on one ranking of all time. Who do you rank as top? Winx or Frankel? Why?

The opposite has just happened in NZ. A High Court Judge has ruled that Vax mandates don't breach the Human Rights Act. I suspect they may appeal although I'm not sure that their argument and the legislation they used was the correct approach. It was a case taken by a group of nurses and teachers. Mandate to get Covid-19 vaccination not a breach of Bill of Rights, High Court judge rules Wellington district courts reporter A small group of doctors and teachers have lost an attempt to stop the mandate that requires them to be vaccinated by next Monday. The groups – which originally included midwives – took their case, claiming the mandate was a breach of the Bill of Rights, to the High Court on Monday. They said the mandate – which stipulates they must have had their first Covid-19 vaccination by November 15 – was inconsistent with their right to refuse medical treatments. They said the Covid-19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations) Act 2021 did not explicitly authorise the placing of a limit on their right to refuse to undergo any medical treatment. However, Justice Matthew Palmer disagreed. New Zealand Doctors Speaking Out on Science (NZDSOS) and its related group for teachers (NZTSOS) – along with a group of midwives – were seeking a judicial review of the mandate order. In court, their lawyers told the judge that they should not be called on to have what amounted to an invasive procedure. They wanted more consultation on the mandate.Lawyer Warren Pyke submitted that the mandate coerces, directly and derivatively, a person who did not want to be vaccinated, into being vaccinated. He said those they represent felt coerced into participating in a medical or scientific experiment without their consent on the basis of the status of the vaccine. Under the mandate, if they have not had their first vaccination by Monday, they will not be able to go to work on Tuesday. Crown lawyer Daniel Perkins had told the court there was a practical cost to not having the vaccination, but it did not limit their right not to get it. There was a choice, Perkins said: to work in their vocation, they had to accept the treatment, but if they did not, they then accepted they could lose their job. NZDSOS’s members include 79 doctors, 48 dentists and 26 pharmacists while NZTSOS’s members are teachers, principals and members of boards of trustees. There were initially four midwives involved in the case. Justice Palmer said if a limit was reasonable, prescribed by law, and demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society under section 5, it was consistent with the Bill of Rights. He dismissed their application and said mandatory vaccination fell within the scope of the Bill of Rights. He also granted anonymisation of the midwives’ names. “It is quite clear that the issue of vaccination against Covid-19 has become a socially divisive issue in New Zealand, arousing strongly expressed views on both sides,” he said “Sadly, the applicants’ concerns about bullying, harassment, and vilification of themselves and their family members may have foundation.“ The principal medico-legal advisor at medical professional indemnity provider Medicus, Dr Peter Robinson, welcomed the vaccine mandate recently brought into law. He said that a “no jab, no job” mandate was not a human rights violation. “While it may seem tough, a healthcare vaccine mandate just makes sense,” Robinson said. “The whole idea of a vaccination programme is to keep communities safe – it doesn’t work if those working closely with some of our most medically vulnerable could potentially pass on a deadly virus.” From January 1, 2022, all healthcare practitioners, including those in non-clinical roles, will need to be fully vaccinated as part of their terms of employment.

It is irrelevant because you have no idea whether changes in her training regime would have given different results or better performances. Therefore we can only compare recorded performances. As have thousands of other horses in the last decade or more. However in terms of longevity and sustained high level performance Winx has left everyone of those horses well behind. Just as she would have left Show Gate in her wake in my opinion. Winx won her first race as a 2 yr old June 2014 and her last race as a 7 yr old in April 2019. Apart from her 2 yr old starts every race she started in was a Grp race. Her last 33 wins in a row were all in Grp races. She beat her rivals by an average of 3.6 lengths often easing down or going away from them. She could also throw in a 10.8 second 200m sectional at the end of 2000m.

Sure you can post what you want. You just did. I pointed out that your supposition doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. You haven't actually stated anything black and white.