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A real shame that the Omakau thoroughbreds are no longer I've been there a few times over the years, on the Sth Is. moonshine tour and the sights of a thoroughbred at full tilt @ a tight circuit brought joy to the heart It's great the harness people are allowed to still bring their hairy pets in too..all harnessed up with a pink lead rope Joyous scenes
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Well I noticed a DH posted a few days ago for 4th and the same time So unless it's only placings they cant publish correctly?? That'd be just nuts though As we know they do NUTS extremely well at NZTR Fancy issuing a DH at HQ as a different time and margin to the original DH result just because the protest overturned the same time and margin? Maybe he issued the time/margin from the inaccurately positioned inside camera? it's gibberish and they love it
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Note the end of the red line doesn't mark up to the middle of camera If it was Ruakaka they'd be f'ed
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it was in yesterdays report under 'General' stuff 4 horses in a blanket finish with #1 6th Sometimes that red line is also inaccurate when adjusting the running rail Mentioned it to Mark Davo a number of times and which also confused the riders using the supposed 100M mark
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A change was what David Archer was wanting after the Puke debacle ALL sign offs to be checked by stewards before correct weight At Puke the distance from stipes to the judges box is too great and obviously "counter-signing" was a load of b/s Signed AFTER the official 'judge's' placings had already been approved for pay out Unless they looked at it but didn't check the bogus lines the 'Judge' had ordered the cam operator to draw up Also signed the official margin of 0.2L which is THE biggest lie of the whole debacle
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Now this Kurow Jockey Club at Kurow, Monday 30 December 2024 Race 10 COUPLAND WORKING DOG BISCUITS 1400m After concerns were raised, Stewards opened an inquiry into the judge’s official placings in this race, with the matter to be heard at a later date. Seriously, wtf is going on? Zero comment in todays HQ report wrt to the 'follow up" after the inside camera was incorrectly positioned Stakeholders have to put up with this TOTAL lack of transparency with Oatham and his band hiding behind their shades Hopeless
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The 'Judge' is employed by RIB As good as the ubiquitous John Oatham is...he cant be expected to check all facets of what his staff are required to carry out It's a given a 'Judge' would check camera alignments..if not give them the DCM Do you check if your cleaning wallah has tooth brushed the grouting in your shower given you're as blind as a bat?
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Wrong in this instance RIB requested the CLUB "follow up" on their employee 'the camera operator' and the reason why he didn't check the inside camera for accuracy RIB's employee should also be asked is he on speaking terms with the camera guy after the massive argument they had a month ago at Puke It's very simple How long has this cock up being going on ffs?? So many questions...why did the judge' go to the inside camera..all the while live on trackside..which they admitted was a mistake After observing the clear margin on the other camera?? It's truly shocking...especially after the Puke cock up
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Do us all a favour Ring the ATR number I gave you Ask the pertinent ?? but don't be impertinent Thanks
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Let's hope in this "follow up" they'll sort out if the 'Camera Operator' (employed by the club) and the 'Judge'(employed by RIB) actually talk to each other?? "Hey cam guy, have you got the angle right for the inside cam today"? "Hey 'Judge' guy, are you allowed to override my timing to 1000th/s of a sec. and make up a time to suit your 'ideas' of a nose when my time said there wasn't a 1000th of a sec. separating the 2 at Puke...oh and then change the nose margin to 0.2L when a "hairline" nose is only 0.1L"?? simple questions like that
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If only they acted like the Mafia as well Horse's heads in beds Not "I've known John Craig for years and he's got very good eye sight, especially with a bit of contrast button"
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Can't wait for this so called 'follow up" the Lack of Integrity Board are asking for following Auckland Thoroughbred Racing's employee stuffing up the inside camera alignment It's on a par with asking about a sore hoof "follow up" When its a MAJOR Integrity issue Not only does RIB need to take responsibility but so does ATR by making an 'employment' announcement that both the Judge and camera 'operator' have been given the undistinguished order of the DCM in the NY Dishonors List
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Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for me, for me So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye? So you think you can love me and leave me to die? Ooh Ooh, yeah, ooh, yeah Nothing really matters, anyone can see Nothing really matters Nothing really matters to me
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Have you rang Craig yet Chief? As you'd know Chief, it's important to have STANDARDS of behaviour and a 'gambling' industry HAS to have THE highest of any Just making up stuff and having 'Judges' finding 0.2L where none exists can't be tolerated Maybe that's how the Righteous Right Roll though??
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Because it mirrors the FAKE NEWS Pukekohe result where the time keeper couldn't find a 1000th of a sec margin Yet the 'Judge' found 100th/sec 0.01 to the 'winner' over the '2nd' horse and an incredible 0.2L margin where a "pencil thin" nose is 0.1Length Made up FAKE NEWS by the 'Judge' every which way
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if it was a DH why has NZTR posted a 0.01 sec win and a margin of 0.1 L?
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You'd think so wouldn't you? Look lets be proactive and sort the sit out from the chaff Give them a ring and "asking on behalf of a friend"...or for "the whole industry to secure the integrity of such" Ask for Craig Baker...'Bakes' to his mates I'm persona non grata as I've embarrassed them far too often They'd really love to hear from you...don't hesitate!!! We'd love to hear from you! Please don't hesitate to get in touch with the team. 09 524 4069
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Holy shit...didn't even think about that possibility but knowing how the whole industry operates you could be bang on
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Seriously, what a bunch of f'in AMATEURS Clearly, on Trackside the LIVE Judge's photo linx was showing a margin to MIDNIGHT EDITION over YALDI Then without explanation the 'Judge' announces a deadheat!! WTF?? Post race, after fuming punters bombarded Oatham with a please f'in explain, the full truth finally comes out "In post-race Trackside coverage, the photo finish footage shown included coverage from the inside camera which was not correctly aligned. The result of the race was judged off the outside camera which is located in a permanent mount inside the Judge’s box. Steward’s concerns regarding the inside camera not being correctly aligned were raised with Club Officials for follow up." Does this mean the f up at Pukekohe a few weeks ago where the "inside camera had a bent leg and couldn't be used" was STILL being used?? THE Premier 'club' at HQ hasn't got the inside camera aligned?? FFS!!! Then to rub even more salt into the festering wound the 'judge' sends this fake result and time to NZTR' 'results page 1 $6.20 57.0 57.0 NOSE 1.24.81 Andrew Forsman 5 $50.50 57.0 57.0 .1L 1 1/4 LEN 1.24.82 Bruce Wallbank According to this FAKE NEWS YALDI has beaten MIDNIGHT EDITION by a nose in 1.24.81 with ME's time 1.24.82 When the ACTUAL result was a deadheat Someone should tell the 'judge' when a deadheat occurs and the result of the inquiry reverses such The f'in time and margins don't change What a disgraceful bunch of Amateurs we have in 'control'
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Isnt the 800M area where Farmer Joe has his moonshine stashed? When Newsboy and Mickey Havoc went on their 'Gay Gore' tour and proceeded to scoff at the giant trout, little did they know 20 years later, on the Gay Gore re-union 'apology to Gore' tour ...they'd nearly lose heir manhoods to a group of angry Bogan locals who cornered them at the moonshine stash
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Listen up You're talking utter crap The Judge CONFIRMED the result The Stipes had to rubber stamp the result and knew the 'confirmed' result was b/s If, as happened at Puke, the Stipes were situated over on the Surf course The 'Judge' would've had another dont cum f in Monday in his letter box Maybe the useless Ruakaka locals could build a f in winning post after all these years?? Then he wouldn't have a blind freddy leg to stand on All he has to go on is a bit of red paint for a sighter #ffs
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David Ellis Inducted into the NZ Thoroughbred Hall of Fame.
Thomass replied to Wandering Eyes's topic in Galloping Chat
Contrary to some 'media' outlets Davo gave Jammie Richards a rousing rendition of 'How Great Thou Art' on Guerin's radio show on Saturday Some racing people talk utter crap at times -
WTF is going on with these 'judges'?? John Craig got the DCM and a new 'judge'?? Clearly a huge margin 3/4th, luckily Ruakaka have the stipes close to the Magoo 'judge', as opposed to Puke where the officail timekeeper & 'judge' nearly came to fistcuffs The Judge’s call was amended prior to the authorisation of dividends. The original call being 1 st SWEET BUT PSYCHO, 2 nd APACHE ANNE, 3 rd SUNSET BOULEVARD, 4 th BECAUSE. The amended official placings were 1 st SWEET BUT PSYCHO, 2 nd APACHE ANNE, 3 rd BECAUSE, 4th SUNSET BOULEVARD.
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Not at all I thought her style was exemplary, especially her whip use in giving horse's time to respond while maintaining balance
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The whip and learning theory If use of the whip is to be effective and ethical, and if jockeys are going to hit a horse and have it produce the desired response, jockeys and trainers need to have an understanding of learning theory (Evans and McGreevy, 2011; McGreevy et al., 2018) Without such understanding, the potential for abuse is heightened Use of the whip can be viewed as negative reinforcement or positive punishment, depending on how it is used; both are aversive, the extent to which they are aversive being related to the manner and force with which the whip is used The BHA cite the ‘sight, sound and sensation of the whip’ and induction of the flight response as potential reasons for its effectiveness, without causing pain (BHA, 2021). This raises three questions: What valid rationale is there for the whip being effective in ‘encouraging’ the horse if it is not aversive in some way? If waving/using a whip is not aversive, why do horses not habituate to it, making its use ineffective? If inducing the flight response (i.e., eliciting fear) is the mechanism by which use of the whip is effective, is this ethical? BHA rules state that the horse must be given enough time to respond before being whipped again If the horse does not respond to the whip because it cannot (e.g., because it is too fatigued), then it has no way of escaping being whipped again; the horse is now being whipped for galloping as fast as it can The fact that a horse does not display any apparent reaction to a whip strike does not mean that it does not feel pain – if it cannot control whether it is whipped (e.g., if, when it responds, the whipping does not stop, or if the whipping is applied when the horse is too fatigued to respond), the whipping becomes positive punishment For a horse that is already putting in maximum effort, this is abuse There is also the possibility that the horse may enter a state of learned helplessness in which it does not even try to respond