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He was confident he was going to be on the money with that one.

https://harnesslink.com/usa/bulldog-hanover-paces-fastest-mile-ever-in-145-4/ Looks like he could go even faster.

Well his tips come out on the day of the races and he can back them the night before so I suppose you could call that early access.

Yes the whale is terrible. He was ok several years back when no-one had access to information and he got the videos when the public couldn't see them. These days he can stop those 1.40 favourites in their tracks. No wonder the TAB keep him employed.

I think the point is to make punters bet to increase turnover. Obviously the worse they tip the more the TAB makes so in the best interest of the TAB to have terrible tippers. Also good for me as they lower the odds on horses I don't like more often than not.

I think the RIB went in to this half cocked with no factual evidence of race fixing just a few assumptions, just like I posted in here suggesting that might be the case the day this became public knowledge 6 years ago.

If the whips are removed the stipes will have to find another easy and profitable way to fill up the fine jar probably with another set of ridiculous rules re rein use. Is it at all possible to vote someone onto some of these decision making positions with some actual common sense.

He is a good judge that Brodie lol

Looks like a tired horse to me. Might come back stronger next time in

Addington has turned into a real turd for betting. Leader biased favourites turning everyone off. That is why the grass tracks and country meetings are better betting opportunities and favoured by punters owners and trainers. The biggest issue is why can't the heads of the TAB and HRNZ make that conclusion that as well.

They chuck out Smileslikejacinda but they happily let through the name Escobar named after a terrorist criminal drug lord who murdered thousands of people through barbaric acts of violence and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths through importing drugs into America. I argue Escobar causes offense to millions more than the name Jacinda. The whole naming thing is just laughable.

Getting to the front helped the most. The track bias is such that you get the front you run top three

Yes and Commodore 64 graphics.

Pretty sure they open Group Races and some listed races earlier than lower rated races. Who in their right mind bets on these six horse races with $1.30 favourites?

I think Ian is just saying out loud what all every other drivers are thinking.

Too late to fix it as unfortunately they have already driven too many punters away who will never come back.

26 into 7.00 tonight. Outsiders crunching in to much lower odds before race start. Rule number one: If it is tipped out on boys get paid ignore it! I will be more gobsmacked than Brodie if it wins tonight. I am backing against it.

Artatac looked the winner in that race. I would have priced it at 1.80 so thought the 2.10 was value.

A global pool would be the best option for the punters but most countries are against the idea because they do not like to share and how do you split the profits? Also the pools in New Zealand harness would still not be that big even with a global pool. As for the TAB exploring options, the TAB even stopped Australians from betting into our pools and got rid of free to air trackside, not to mention managing to get screwed over building the new website. Do you think they can make good decisions after seeing those ignominious failures?

You think you have got problems how about not being able to win $2.95

Yes I agree the limits should be higher. Why not make it so you can at least win 2K a race without restrictions. I can see why they are doing it but not being able to get a $20 bet on is a joke.

If you are looking at this from a punting point of view which Brodie always is, I would have to agree a maiden looks much more attractive than an even open class where you can not predict the leader, moves in the race etc with as much certainty. But as a spectacle it is quite exciting and the hype surrounding it good for the sport.

Unfortunately there are some smart punters out there with means who are able to beat the house, It is not really that hard if you know what you are doing. It would be quite easy to win many millions a year with no holds barred betting as the bookies make many mistakes with their odds. There have to be restrictions or there will be no payouts for the industry. The New Zealand pool of money is simply not big enough to allow no restrictions.

The Race was ok as a spectacle but would prefer to see it run as a mobile 3200m with 100K for the leader at the winning post for the second and third laps and the balance for the stake. The race would be more entertaining with moves made during the race for the sprinters and the back runners would have some chance because of the work being done by the leaders. You would effectively have three races within a race. None of this lead all the way on a leaders biased track bullshit we get now.

IMO on the grass there is a better atmosphere. The racing is a lot more even. The Blair Oranges and John Dunns can not dominate with their lead at all cost tactics on grass and the same goes for the trainers like Mark Purdon. Grass is a great leveler just look at Bollenger who could not win a maiden on grass from that stable. That is why grass track racing will continue to get big numbers especially from hobby trainers who have a better chance of running in the money and also from punters who avoid the 1.40 favourites on grit tracks.