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They chuck out Smileslikejacinda but they happily let through the name Escobar named after a terrorist criminal drug lord who murdered thousands of people through barbaric acts of violence and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths through importing drugs into America. I argue Escobar causes offense to millions more than the name Jacinda. The whole naming thing is just laughable.

Getting to the front helped the most. The track bias is such that you get the front you run top three

Yes and Commodore 64 graphics.

Pretty sure they open Group Races and some listed races earlier than lower rated races. Who in their right mind bets on these six horse races with $1.30 favourites?

I think Ian is just saying out loud what all every other drivers are thinking.

Too late to fix it as unfortunately they have already driven too many punters away who will never come back.

26 into 7.00 tonight. Outsiders crunching in to much lower odds before race start. Rule number one: If it is tipped out on boys get paid ignore it! I will be more gobsmacked than Brodie if it wins tonight. I am backing against it.

Artatac looked the winner in that race. I would have priced it at 1.80 so thought the 2.10 was value.

A global pool would be the best option for the punters but most countries are against the idea because they do not like to share and how do you split the profits? Also the pools in New Zealand harness would still not be that big even with a global pool. As for the TAB exploring options, the TAB even stopped Australians from betting into our pools and got rid of free to air trackside, not to mention managing to get screwed over building the new website. Do you think they can make good decisions after seeing those ignominious failures?

You think you have got problems how about not being able to win $2.95

Yes I agree the limits should be higher. Why not make it so you can at least win 2K a race without restrictions. I can see why they are doing it but not being able to get a $20 bet on is a joke.

If you are looking at this from a punting point of view which Brodie always is, I would have to agree a maiden looks much more attractive than an even open class where you can not predict the leader, moves in the race etc with as much certainty. But as a spectacle it is quite exciting and the hype surrounding it good for the sport.

Unfortunately there are some smart punters out there with means who are able to beat the house, It is not really that hard if you know what you are doing. It would be quite easy to win many millions a year with no holds barred betting as the bookies make many mistakes with their odds. There have to be restrictions or there will be no payouts for the industry. The New Zealand pool of money is simply not big enough to allow no restrictions.

The Race was ok as a spectacle but would prefer to see it run as a mobile 3200m with 100K for the leader at the winning post for the second and third laps and the balance for the stake. The race would be more entertaining with moves made during the race for the sprinters and the back runners would have some chance because of the work being done by the leaders. You would effectively have three races within a race. None of this lead all the way on a leaders biased track bullshit we get now.

IMO on the grass there is a better atmosphere. The racing is a lot more even. The Blair Oranges and John Dunns can not dominate with their lead at all cost tactics on grass and the same goes for the trainers like Mark Purdon. Grass is a great leveler just look at Bollenger who could not win a maiden on grass from that stable. That is why grass track racing will continue to get big numbers especially from hobby trainers who have a better chance of running in the money and also from punters who avoid the 1.40 favourites on grit tracks.

Yes. Do Your homework. Yes. Sometimes and sometimes. Yes. Yes. No depends on the value. Yes. Sometimes if the value is there. No. Yes

Well it is one I use to great effect and I am betting Brodie does too. If you are any good at punting you know which horses are most likely to break and can eliminate them from your bets and vice versa you know which ones can step and can be confident on. The difference between a good punter who knows everything about the runners including their stepping ability and someone who just backs the favourite is the favourite backers lose money.

And you would lose a lot of punters too if the industry in the south turned into a mobile leader biased 1.50 favourite shitathon. Just look at Auckland. I stopped betting there years ago. The only time you get a decent price up there is when the drivers set one up. At least with the standing starts you have a chance of the favourites breaking and getting a decent dividend especially on grass.

Yes true that but obviously hit a nerve. Can Brodie and Forbury keep posting tips so I can back the opposite please.

Lol thanks Forbury and Brodie. A tip for everyone. Just back the opposite of what Forbury and Brodie say. Brodie is rarely on the money and Forbury even worse.

I sense someone who would bet on two flies running up a wall. Isn't this a harness racing forum?

Hahaha stay off the drugs and alcohol.

Mmmm lets see. It would need to be paying $3 - $7 for a place for a start so that narrows it down a bit. Maybe a trotter as well. Sods Law, Prince Teka and The Bloss possibilities on the 14 horse field trot race and plenty others in the same race paying well. I am picking that race you will be looking at. Ready I Am would be on your radar on the other low class trot as I am picking you would have had many a go on BK Dawn from that stable who was always good for a place div at good money.

Brodie on the money again?

Wouldn't be the first time or the last.