the galah

Looked like they got rid of the vet to hold the 40m tape after the last debacle at westport,but the new fella seemed to want a false start. Instead of not releasing the tape,looked like he let it go early? Who was the fella holding the 40m tape anyway this time. Didn't look to be part of the starting crew. Perhaps they grabbed someone out of the bar.Maybe they might put him in charge next time they start the last race at westport, as those doing the starts don't seem to have learnt much from the last debacle. You've got to laugh really.

D ferguson given a 4 day suspension for the drive. Good to see the stipes up there being pro active in policing such drives.

I just thought p wakelin's case was clear cut,thats why she admitted it. And with j young-grant it looked like it made little difference,but we will never know as she didn't drive it out the last 25m. And thats why she admitted it. I get that it is a rule where there seems there may be a bit of inconsistency around penalties. Is this topic about personalities or the whip rule.

The whip rule does seem a tricky one to enforce, whichever side of the argument you are on. Both the cases you referred to noodlum admitted the charges,so they must have accepted they had infringed.

Shes in very good form.

So why all of a sudden are more people talking about security camera. Whats changed?

And there you go. Suggesting some stables need protection against possible RIU visits. Maybe you need to think what you are saying means.

Not necessary if you have nothing to hide though. I would think everyone wanting a level playing field would be happy authorities are doing their job.

Well i guessed you would be referring to needing to be in a dividend bearing placing before you could protest. What is truly ridiculous about the stipes report is they noted the 3rd and 4th horses suffered interference,yet didn't even bother to ask their drivers. The stipes report noted 5th placed artisan lost 6 lengths. It also lost position and obviously took a knock,and only got beaten less than a length at the finish. Who was in charge,the stipes or B purdon and s phelan,who as i have stated are great mates of mangos. They just ignored all the video evidence. The point is it undermines the confidence connections and punters can have in the stipes who officiated and highlights inconsistency based on who you are.

How many harness trainers have cameras set up at their properties to observe who comes and goes?

Thats where you are wrong. The horse placed 5th could have been promoted to 4th,which is a dividend bearing placing.And what about the 3rd and 4th placed horses who lost significant ground because of the interference. The stipes report says after speaking to S.phelan and B purdon they took the inquiry no further. This stipes report is a total farce. An absolute joke. It states they are to speak to B mangos about the interference he caused. So the stipes say B mangos caused two thirds of the field to have their chances effected,including the 3rd,4th and 5th placed runners yet they only speak to brent mangos's good mates in scott phelan and barry purdon,who surprise ,surprise say don't worry about it. Mickey Mouse would do a better job running the stipes up there.

The whale has a lot to do with the prices of these horses as well. The keast horse is a nice horse,and hes trains well,just it was a big ask to expect it to beat horses with better records and more race experience.

But it was so obvious that the horses interfered with lost so much ground,and all 3 were within 1 length of the dunn horse at the finish. I think its more likely to be a case of either an incompetent jca or drivers saying the opposite of what the video evidence clearly shows. Thats generally how it works.

Did that not look like a clear case of the horse that ran 2nd knocking over two thirds of the field. An inquiry,yet no change of placings,yet the 3rd,4th,and 5th horses all suffered bad interference. Now,if the the dunn horse was not at fault, they must stand down and make the purdon runner trial before racing again,as that was a very bad incident. Of course we all know that won't happen,because there is no way anyone could say it wasn't the dunn runners fault.

Just realised i have my sky on delay,Bugga.so i think i should stick to watching the races.

So your calling me naive ,yet your the one who continually posts views that say there is very little crossing of the line. You seem to be contradicting yourself judging by that comment. I think i must be winning the argument,at least thats how i view it,so i will stop posting on this while i'm ahead..

In my opinion Classie brigade is a horse you only take in standing starts if drawn the front.thats my opinion.

I think your over thinking the stable driving. I had henry hubert clearly on top with the handicaps factored in. Driven accordingly. A g whitesocks has been disappointing for a long time,and didn't look much of a winning chance.

Ok. you don't seem to find the indictments issued by the FBI credible. All the recorded conversations,horse deaths,etc, Your not a believer. And i don't know how to post a link,and prefer it that way.

but Its not fair play if you drive to advantage any horse over your own,whether it be a stablemate or not. We all know it happens,but thats not fair to connections or punters. One of the reasons the success of the all stars was a major turn off for many punters was the team driving aspect of it. Drivers should drive every horse on its merits.

I see they have adjourned there inquiry into the d ferguson drive in race 1 last night.Punters confidence in investing was reduced by races like that.

We had both better duck then. You don't seem to like this fella woodham much.Thats a plus for him in my book.

I will say it one last time. You have been arguing that testing now days can pick nearly everything. I gave you an example of current cases where its alleged there was the manufacturing,distributing and use of blocking agents,masking agents,epo agents,etc.And that testing was not picking up its use. Further,its alleged these products had been distributed to many countries,including australia. The investigation was carried out by the FBI who worked in conjunction with a private investigator,who had been funded by the likes of jeff gural(meadowlands) The announcement of the uncovering of the widespread use of performance enhancers created divisions within racing authorities,with many saying racing was clean,while the couple of groups who had helped fund part of the investigation saying that the indictments issued were proof of what they knew to be true,and that the bury your head in the sand attitude of many within the racing industry just enabled those who were dishonest. Thats all been widely reported if you don't believe it.

I've also been thinking about the "hoping to catch all the boys at the beach" comment newmarket. To observe multiple stables you would need a large workforce. That doesn't seem plausible that they would undertake such a large scale operation. That rumour seems a bit over the top,but hey,who knows.

So your saying he broke the rules to give his horse something that he thought was not performance enhancing. Sounds like you think he is thick as well as silly.