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emma stewart not a great example if you look at her partner clayton tonkins history. I do think you have mentioned the reason that will most discourage wagering on harness racing in parts of australia. That is races where short priced favorites dominate the betting. Emma stewart stable certainly does that in victoria.Who bets on those races with three or 4 emma stewart trained runners in with one paying $1.30.

I have been saying everyone is saying that in australia. I've never really focused on him much other than to note what others say. Gammalite is the expert on the australian harness on this forum and he seems to agree with what others are saying over there.. I have never once suggested feeding a horse the best or using the best trainers and drivers or facilities is unfair. My focus has always been on performance enhancing treatments horses receive which manipulate things like oxygen levels and red blood cells or the use of pain killers that allow horses to run pain free.Things that can also lead to impacting a horses health. e.g. Anabolic steroids or epo. They were legal at one point .Using your argument that type of thing is ok to do as long as it remains legal or can't be tested for. I don't subscribe to that view. I have never said anything about te akau myself and just mentioned what ron dufficy said about the current form of the waterhouse/bott trained horses.I'm no expert on australian racing. as far as the all stars go,yes i've expressed opinions about their horses uplift in performance on the big race days and how i believe it falls into the category i discussed in the earlier part of my reply.No point getting into that again now as i don't think it applies at the moment.

Opinions as to whether someone believes a trainer is gaining an unfair advantage over another competitor, are based on ones own knowledge and experiences of previous and current events that occur. Obviously everyone has different levels of experience and knowledge. With racing,what happens on the racetrack is the basis of a significant part of their thinking. You push the idea that anyone who is gaining an unfair advantage,is not guilty of doing so unless they have been caught. Innocent until proven guilty. Seeing things that way will mean you will always be proven to be wrong about someone when they actually are caught by authorities, Wrong with the benefit of hindsight.. Its inevitable that happen when you defend everyone on that basis. Its also just as inevitable that not everyone who is thought to be doing something illegal will be caught and that not everyone suspected of doing something also has actually done anything wrong. So we come back to my original paragraph. And that is why peoples mind set around others opinions should try not to be over sensitive. Thats how i approach things.But you can't change,nor want to change anyones sensitiveness,so obviously some people can get upset sometimes. Having said all that,there is also the grey area of something being legal,but at the same time not neccesarilly being fair to everyone. Things like having access to wealth to enable your horses to have legal treatments to assist performance. Now i don't blame anyone for having those means,but i can understand why even in those circumstances where it is all legal,where it discourages participation when the legal means allows such significant difference in performance. When that happens its inevitable that people with no access to legal perfomance enhancers,will no longer participate. Which is why it is so important that authorities hear the views of those in that position,who express them through sites such as this. Without those opinions being expressed,those who run the sport simply would be out of touch with their ever diminishing base.

Like i said your not me so don't know what i've experienced.You wouldn't be saying that to me if you actually knew some of my life experiences. In fact i'm sure i have a greater understanding of what you refer to than most people. I always think theres an irony when you refer to keyboard warriors ,because you enable the so called keyboard warriors by providing this platform. People only refer to people as keyboard warriors when they say something that they don't like.Thats how it works. Of course there are limits before people react. And everyone is different so react in their own way.

Obviously you are different to me,but i have learnt not to care what others may think.I haven't been called a drug cheat or a peodophile,but have been called lots of things over the years that weren't true,especially by people who don't know me.Why should anyone really worry about what strangers who don't know you think. If you are going to feel some loathing for someone,keep it for someone who knows you and calls you something that they know is not true just to advance an agenda they may have. Thats my motto. when it comes to harness racing,its a big help to have a thick skin. Grimson reacted in a way that was only ever going to penalise himself,so irrespective of what was said to him,his actions were very stupid and he only has himself to blame. people shouldn't make any excuses for him.

My wifes just got this years standardbred stallions book. Looks to be a wide range of choices. Sweet lou seems very reasonably priced at $7500 plus gst. king of swing $6,500 lazarus $7,500 bulldog hanover at $10,000. I see hes by shadow play,i don't know whether that will factor in for breeders but a great racehorse. Bettors delight and captain treacherous still at $25,000. My wife likes the look of lather up at $4,500. Thats closer to my price range if we were to breed one. lochaburn the cheapest at $1000 sky major $2500 The trotters seem a lot cheaper,with 9 $2000 or cheaper. Maybe not the same depth there as the pacers. There doesn't seem any bread and butter type producer in the trotters although majestic son at $5,000 seem one of the better priced. Hes left some good ones but i always think they a bit highly strung. Father patrick still at $7,500 although personally i'm not a fan,but he always seems popular.

I see mynameisjeff was bred by glenis chimel. She must have liked the film 22jump street or maybe channing tatum is her favorite actor. The horse looks to be the next big thing going by its performance the other night. Maybe the big track helped it as it struggled on the bends for its previous trainer in victoria. Will be interesting to see how it performs once grimson is out. Maybe he will get his wife or someone else from the family or maybe the farrier to do the training.Isn't that what they do normally.. I see the write up by adam hamilton on the hrnz website says grimson assaulted someone after provocation. Why did adam hamilton think it necssary to put the provocation comment in his story. Not sure if hes suggesting being called a drug cheat is provocation to punch someone while that name caller is being held by a security guard. I read somewhere that is what supposedly happened but the actual detail of the assault seems to have been given very little coverage,which seems rather strange. Isn't grimsons dominance a bad thing for harness racing in australia. Cleary most think hes cheating and that is what punters will think as well.

I haven't heard him say a horse looked like it would run through a wall before, like he did on saturday.Obviously his opinion for what its worth.

Actually it would be interesting to know how the tab bookies came to the conclusion yesterday that they should push out his price from $7 to $14 close to start time. Obviously they had no money for him,but how did they know punters would not come for him at the high price. It would be interesting to know how the bookies do that. The pattern in all races seems to be the bookies monitor certain peoples accounts and get notifications of which horses those punters are backing on,then they make adjustments to the prices. maybe there are people out there who actually bet on the house stable and maybe the bookies saw they had invested elsewhere and lengthened the odds because of that.I don't follow the house stable enough myself to know whether there is a pattern to the stables prices. Johhny mac is a horse from the stable who i am thinking will soon completely turn his form around. He has only run 1 3rd place in the last couple of seasons,but has actually being going really good races.He didn't look quite ready to go the other night and may need another start or two,but i think he is one from the stable that they are waiting to let loose now hes dropped so far back in the ratings.

Are you saying ron dufficy doesn't know what he is talking about? I have always thought he is the best judge in the australian racing media. I quoted his words earlier. Clearly he thinks the waterhouse/bott team have grown a leg in the last couple of weeks. He's talking about the present,not last month or earlier in the year.

I'm a harness racing supporter through and through,but i did used to bet on the gallops as well. I don't bet on the gallops much at all now. If i do have a bet on the nz gallops it is when the tracks get firmer. I agree the gallops form is more inconsistent ,although think thats in part due to in the south island the jockeys not being as good as they used to be. A handful are tops,but many seem to lack experience and consistency in how they ride. I still enjoy watching them though,as i do the dogs sometimes. saturday nights theres never anything worth watching on tv either.

I see he had a horse called mynameisjeff run 1.48.9 first up for the stable last night. Apparently operating under a stay of penalty while they hear his appeal. Mynameisjeff bred by glenys chimel maybe. Ran like it could have won by double the winning margin if the driver had wanted. Funny thing was i was watching some Aussie gallops yesterday and was thinking how well the waterhouse/bott stable was going in victoria and nsw. Then i heard ron dufficy coment near the end of the day that some horse they train looked like it would have run through a wall,after it won. Then he said,well they added the tounge tie today but no one can have predicted that much improvement on its last run. Then he said ,mind you, everything from that stable is going like that lately. i've never heard him comment like that before,but it was obvious he was meaning something with those comments.

I don't know about setting them up for a punt myself. personally i think you need to prepare before backing any wilson house driven horse.Make sure you double the heart medication to keep the blood pressure at a safe level,then get a bottle of scotch and some prozac pills ready for after the finish.Also have a direct line to someone at anger management.I know several punters who think that. I agree a key strategy of that stable is to drive them quiet to drop down in grade. They get an awful lot of winners and that santanna mach is only a rated 44 horse,despite winning 3 country cup races this year and winning a couple of starts ago.Compare that to how non win horses are rated,and it i seems a bit crazy,but thats the rating system. Obviously that stable(including its drivers)are great for the sport,just not so great for the punters.

He would be hard to play cards against. He could be dealt the same cards,but play them with differing levels of confidence sometimes.

watched this horse today. It opened at $7 on the ff then just kept drifying close to race start time and it went out to $14 a minute out so i put mu $20 on it at $14 and that dropped it back into $11. Now anyone who has watched this horse knows it lacks a sprint and is best driven in front. Wilson house the driver in fact has said that and has driven it that way in its last 4 starts. Well today it begins fast like it always does,then to i think everyones surprise immediately slows and took a trail behind the complete outsider who's driver seemed surprised he would be given the lead. Then the horse did what it often does,pulling its head off to the extent house was unable to control it at one point crashing into the back of another at the 800m. The drift in the betting may have been some indication,but Houses tactics are very hard to follow.

Maybe your right. Certainly won well tonight. Tonights field his hardest field so far. Personally i think he more a top 10 type trotter,Obviously doing very well to achieve that. I got a kick out of watching ben hope win the big pacing race for the night with mossdale ben. Anything goes went a nice race.Smithys terror just got lost turning in but backed up his good trial form with an eye catching 5th.Allamericanlover a good run and just needs to get off the front to be a winner again. They ran 3.12 so that made for a good contest.

Mystic max won easy in the end.Oh well. John dunn said ardiebythehill would defintely would need the run but actually ran a close 2nd. Midnight dash,ben hope very confident but never really looked likely and ran 5th of 7.I guess the whale tipping it stopped it.Rachmaninov dropped out but beat the 1 that broke.Harold smith a good run after being taken on early.

Its sad isn't it. Unfortunately i think your right with every point you make. And the reason your right is because you've personally experienced how the changes impact punters. I've had a lot of the same experiences.. I think the biggest problem has been the decision makers at the TAB simply never had much of an understanding of punters. They made really dumb decisions and it cost the racing industry and then the decision makers just moved on to another job. John allen was a fool that cost the TAB customers big time. History clearly shows that.The stupid thing was he never made much sense but industry leaders believed him anyway. Remember he promised to increase racings income by $50 million. Instead,with his new website he actually cost them a fortune. Unfortunately, In the end its the punters that are directly impacted by the consequences of decisions made by dumb people like john allen.Customer service is an area the TAB make cuts to pay for poor decision making,which in all reality just leads to less customers.

Interesting start to that race yesterday,yet it got very little mention in the stipes report. The favorite,itoje,went on to win the race after being cleared to start by the vet after the false start. The interesting thing was when a false start was declared in the first attempt the mobile slowed and itoje ducked under the front of the mobile. But then the mobile with its arms fully extended,obviously through a lack of communication between the starter and the mobile driver,accelerated away quickly and appeared to strike itoje from behind around the neck ,who understandably so,got quite a shock at being hit by the mobile. Evidence that the mobile had struck itoje,was there for people to see as the mobile arm had a big dent in it and they had to replace it. It was an incident that seemed quite dangerous for the horse and driver concerned,yet virtually no mention of that in the stipes report. Anyone who recorded it should watch it,it could have been quite nasty. Alls well that ends well i suppose,but it was something that i've never seen before.

Could be the go although they don't seem unbeatable at the moment. Rasmussen driving so well has been a big help recently to get the recent favorites home. The one i think is well under the odds is mystic max. I can't work out why it is so short myself. Has shortened in to $1.90 on ff at the moment. I would have him at about $8 myself. Time will tell.

Was that the horse or the trainer in the punch up after the race. I see he got 12 months disqualification for punching someone who as being held by a security guard. j Trainor out for 3 months. Does make you wonder though . It seems everyone everywhere thinks the stable is giving them something,hence the punch up,Yet they have never been caught doing so.From which you can draw the conclusion that people have no faith in authorities to detect the performance enhancers they may be using,assuming everyone is right.

the tab bookies have the horse rated a $51 shot to win. That just shows how poor the bookies can be sometimes.Truly one of the stupidest prices ever. If it was paying $200 for a place,it would be paying under its realistic dividend.

I see hes earnt $2500 from running against muscle mountain in 3 group races since 2022.I don't know whether he had to pay nomination fees to start in those races or not.

Will get $437.50 just for running,so you would guess its just for the last placed prizemoney.Hes done it a few times before.I guess it helps pay the bills, must be how he sees it.

Well pfizer representatives have said in recent times they never said that it would stop transmission,that they had said it would reduce transmission. It was all the idiot politicians and media who said it stops transmission and kept saying it when it was so obvious that wasn't true. Any sucker can work out,that with the benefit of hindsight,they were lied to. The question is were the politicians and media knowingly lying and i think the answer is obviously yes they did. personally i chose not to get vaccinated and i have never caught it,and the only other person i know who hasn't caught it is also unvaccinated.