Murray Fish

Not the sort of meeting that I choose to bet into! I did manage to find some excitement when a mates 5 year old mare that he bred won! via a inspired ride by KW! A serious question, how does the actually betting on these meetings stack up?

tick and tick

No it didn't win, That be Kim Treweek, a rather chill lay back person at the best of times! A very good rider on the flat before he turned to the jumps riding.

tick

ONCE, retired now.. though still shoot at the very odd meeting..

you wager on them here? your style of betting? in general! a + or - arrived at after doing so?

Speaking from a photographers point of few, from the inside of the track out, not actually what one wants. Very much helped out by the smarts of the modern digital camera!

(Not HK) Talking weight and size, Who was the horse and small time trainer that was gently goaded about "Did you by him by the kilo X", the horse went on to win them in a row, including a G1

My take as well, 'the purists' are entitled to their views, but gee, it would be interesting for TAB to have a focus group done on the views of the New Punters that they are targeting to see what they think? Talking economic realism. It is easy to track the falling numbers or jumps jockeys and jumping horses in training, what would be the betting re prizemoney?

Best if you start with overseas G1's in a season! I do know that we should Tip our Hats his way, for the professional way that he has gone about his riding career. He has this ability to seemly make it look easy in the way he place and rides out a finish! In my ratings, he is a HoF all the way!

A bonus question, Who won the Race?

In the spirit of sharing a commonality with you @Jim Green I post a picture I took back a few jumping seasons ago. How many of the jockeys can you name? I will post another photo from my collection for each one you get correct.

Still going strong @....

Asking for a friend! Why did the rider of the champ have to hit him like that?

Tick, many I think struggle to understand the difference between Critical and Negative! Many can then take it personal! Especially so 'on-line!'! I be very thankful that life has given me a thick skin!

The concept that I am referring to, was based on the research I had undertaken back in 95 about "racing ownership in NZ", I was lucky enough to have been able to present this info, my research, to one of NZ top economists, one who has/had held the top govt role in that position, he was a keen racing man! he crunched all the names, we when got together to meet and discuss my 'info', he stopped and said "gee, this is a classic case of a sunset industry'. that was based on the historical decline of 'real' investment in the Industry. Simple put, the pie was getting smaller and was only tracking one way... Its been interesting to see how 'the whales' have been able to mitigate their 'investment' by the White Knight Sir Winnie of NZ1st galloping in to.... re The Clubs, most of their stuff has been around 'moving chairs on the titanic' and procedural politics around 'picking prefer club$' and transfer wealth from the periphery clubs to the core chosen clubs.. country to city (over the years there has been some interesting economics share around that process, sigh, one person springs to mind, dam I cant recall his name, Laurie M from down southland?? others have made interesting comments, again, names escape me Rod HIll? Its interest to see what has been directed at 'The Punters', some great improvements have come via better technology options, TV and the range of betting options etc... but there has been a interesting contradiction at play their! Along with the 'more sorts of bets' , the TAKE OUT$ have increased Big Time, that was covered in a post put up here a few months back around real insights from that au bookie, ( I was surprized that that thread got almost no responses) he pointed out that all those excocts slowly over time negated actual turning over of any punters betting, simple put, most lost their money quicker!!!! and that in the end negates final profits going forward. Having said all that!!! Speaking personally, HOW can One make sure the One Gets Some FUN out of having a interest in 'things racing nz'. Lol, I have spat the dummy a few time over the last ten years! tragically, I keep dusting it off and coming back for more! I hope you are finding some joy, somewhere, with your involvement! ps @TAB For Ever I await your brutal critique of the above!

toughen up! racing is a text book example!

I bet my mate likes the syn track, his horse bolts into! ye ha!

June 3rd, 4 full pages. Was this in other papers? or a contra deal with ODT?

the odt i believe still have a racing lift out for the sat races, but didn;t for the last sunday races.. I put up the lift out I was referring to,,, re is it a good paper, umm, yes for lighting the fire!

Not so much that I would like, yes I would like. It was promised that it was going to happen, but didn't, and the chances of it happening are @500/1 the 'industry' is locked into the current model I presume a 'profit crisis' will kick in at some stage, as a older punters pass and the younger ones will bet on sport etc,,, sigh

Sadly all rather hypothetical, as Wingman said, the promises of dedicating nz racing to one channel was just more 'piss in the wind'. Sigh, I more and more resigned to the fact that my style of betting will not be catered for! I have a Iron rule, 100% locked in. I Have to see the horse and hopefully get a good look at the ones I think are the ones that can also win. Sometimes for the group races it almost happens! But the reality is that the TAB are now locked into the model they have, it doesn't need to cater for my style of betting, plenty of mugs will to lose their money, though the pool is getting smaller.. talking the TAB, there was a 4 page advt recently in the ODT, I photo it and put it up, I think is shows what direction they see betting going...

"POLLY WANTS A CRACKER" 🦜🦜

yip, you be on to it... just more propaganda. for many years I was involved in a couple of betting groups, turned over 100k + a year in each! I with drew, they quickly collapsed, all the others gave up over time! lol, coz they went back to betting dumb! I often took the trouble to go on course so that the clubs could click the ticket$.. sigh!

what about punters who actually Bet in larger numbers, and actually like to SEE the horses before they wager? I could continue in this vane..