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Meanwhile no one focuses on the real issues!
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
Probably celebrating after the World Cup Football and huge First Cricket Test results (day 1) ?? π He's a good man that John Jnr (father of champs Pete, Narissa, Danielle and Taleah) a real top bloke I ever raced against. Here's the excuse I'll paste here>>>>>> Trainer John McMullen advised Stewards he had incurred a float breakdown en route to the track and would be scratching all horses trained by him engaged to race in tonightβs meeting. -
Meanwhile no one focuses on the real issues!
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
The Real issues ?? they would be Currently 1/ the World Cup of Football = tick, 2/ Test cricket First Test = tick , 3/ The famous time-honoured Interdominion of Harness racing between Australia and New Zealand = cross sadly. No bloody kiwis turned up except the cool Iceman Tony and his great trotter Bolt for Brilliance. Hope he wins It ok. -
Round 2 Tonight at Shepparton nearly set to go...... One Trainer you mightn't of heard of , has a Very Strong Hand in both the trotters and Pacers Interdominion series. Trainer JESS TUBBS has the brilliantly performed first round winners BETTER ECLIPSE in the pacers R7 and JUST BELIEVE in the trotters R8 . Her partner a very good driver Greg Sugars drives and from the Beautiful draws over the short trip heats tonight look sure to Win . BOLT FOR BRILLIANCE has easy heat. we even threw in 'Old Bob' again for him to beat in his heat tonight who is 82 years old and horse is 100-1 and not won this year. Not really a threat ?? lol.....π
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Well he didn't really 'GET KRAKEN' with this horse (the 3rd fav) in the last race yesterday running a poor last lol. Did get a 4th placing with his his other drive (the 3rd fav in a 6 horse field in Race 3 ) on CARRERA RAPIDO so I guess that is pretty good for him ?
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Addington today again ! well it's good to see (maybe) the 'Telfer Barn' once again showing their ability with a Trifecta in race 4 !. did very well, and like BD Joe and co, show the gap to Allstars is greatly reduced , with some fine training efforts this season. Natalie only 4th with the Allstars runner after nice trip in that race. Any tips today from you guys ? Time to 'ARDEN' Up π and looks a great chance of a 60-1 double with STELLAR ARDEN in the junior's race R6 >> with SarahO steering should be a great chance ??. and MELODY ARDEN in Race 8 with Hurrell driving , who seems to be pretty good. 5-1 double for the place cover too.
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The BOLT has 'Bolt'ed In and looks set to clean-sweep the series with No Muscle Mountain around to knock him off. A great start for NZ at the Interdominion !! A G Whitesocks (3rd )in his heat , and Alta Orlando (4th) for their Nz owners . The all Powerful Emma Stewart Stable Won 2 of the pacers heats and were 2nd in the other. They are going to be strong on their home tracks. Young Jason Grimson went well . After winning the GrandFinal last year at Menangle , he knows how to get horses through the gruelling 2 weeks of 4 starts. MAJESTIC CRUISER (3rd tonight) and former Nzer I CAST NO SHADOW (4th) are going to be strong contenders with Cam Hart driving. Hope you are all thrilled for Tony Herlihy and see the familiar Black and white 'AGH' and Nz colours with BFB , trot to Victory in a couple of weeks.ππ
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Best of luck to Tony and Suzanne and other owners, with their great little trotter BOLT FOR BRILLIANCE tonight at Ballarat. The only Nz trained runner having a crack this year in the time-honoured Best Race there Is. Interdominion Grand Finals. Times are tough , covid rife, travel costs high , so Not the turn-out you would like for the great series over the next 2 weeks. A few NZ owned runners having a crack. Maybe John and Robert Dunn can take Victory in the Pacers section with the lovely old warrior horse ALTA ORLANDO that they have had great success with at the Luke McCarthy barn for 2 or 3 seasons now. Wouldn't that be something ? Com'on Bolt and Orlando !!!! π
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Think he has less than a year DQ to go now. I'm sure Weir will be back having a go. Moody recovered well , and Danny O'Brien went on to win Melbourne Cup coming back from their DQ's. The problem for Nigel McGrath is he got a very long sentence. (to try and stamp out the old milkshaking thing for good I suspect) The usual sentence in Australia is/was 3 years for exceeded Bi-carb levels . Nigel would be back in licensed next Winter or so if trained in Oz.
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Hey HunterPunter and your shadow Lowner, why don't you answer this question above then ? instead of just both being rude and disrespectful by down-voting my question to Chief Stipe ? . It is a relevant question about the involvement in horse-breaking by disqualified persons as was the topic in this thread. Your silly downvotes do Not indicate whether you would approve a disgraced trainer having involvement in horse breaking or not. Just a bit of disrespect to site posters more important??
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A Tim Williams Drive: Another RIB Nonsense
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
Not really . I was first on here to say how cool it was to see Sam Ottley in the Allstar colours and winning recently. Labelled Blair Orange home for all money on A BETTER YOU the other day. along with the john Dunn winner for a 20-1 double. what more do you want ? The amount of 'BAGGING' that goes on , on this site about everyfuckenthing and you and Lowner want to criticise me who has given nothing but SUpport to nz harness racing and drivers ??? lol ? I Backed BEACH BALL (driven by Williams) amongst the 6 out of 6 on Show day that i backed so have NOTHING against Tim .(Natalie was 2nd in that race and I let her go) In fact in this lead article , I say he did the right thing and 'Blamed the horse'. Fernleigh Cash for the difficult 'charge' he faced. I thought he drove it pretty well . What did you think ???? Think they 'Blamed the horse' for Alta Wiseguy failure as well in the Nz FFA. *Golden rule 1 standard as per usual. nothing to worry about. failed team effort . all good . I backed Self Assured to beat the Aussies lol....... was laughing my tits off watching DARLING ME's race team tactics (Tim won that too bless him !) -
A Tim Williams Drive: Another RIB Nonsense
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
I'm the least likely on here to dig at drivers matey . my posts are nearly Always in Admiration of them. The NZ FFA was Full of great drives from a few drivers , I RECOMMENDED it for you guys to go back and have a Look. Tim Williams was driving to instruction and they came 'UnStuck' with BD Joe by attempting a failed 'team effort' . Plain as Day ..whats your opinion on it Mr Imperfect LOWner ? take it you must be connected to the Telfer barn to get your knickers in a knot. Who are YOU to judge my performance ? I read races quite well having been in a few hundred of them , and was asked to be a stipe at one stage. But hated the stable raids part of the job. Stipes are there to read every race whether You like it or Not. People doing their jobs. Not spose to be popular. they operate for SAFETY and FAIRNESS to all competitors. GOLDEN RULE 1. Always blame the horse , not yourself or any other driver when in the stipes room after an 'incident' of any kind . chew on that one . -
Do , or should I say WOULD, you approve of Darren Weir (currently doing 4 years DQ for Jigger-gate) a Very prominant Ozzie thoroughbred trainer over-seeing yearling breaking while on 4 years holiday? I think most would Not approve of such a thing happening.
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A Tim Williams Drive: Another RIB Nonsense
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
That was a long day Chief !!! November 11th. ......and Tim had just driven to Team instructions in Race 12 the NZ FFA the race before this drive on Fernleigh Cash in race 13..... and it all went pear-shaped. IMO he gave his horse less chance of winning that race by 'trying' to look after a stable-mate, than he did with Fernleigh Cash in the last race..... Alta Wiseguy eventually running a long last , after being driven out of gate 'Hard' by Tim, to set up for BD Joe (his more accomplished stable-mate). Natalie drove very well early on in race Spankem and shoved BD Joe back in (who was trying to get out early from behind Tim on the leader ) , who would of DEFINITELY let BD Joe lead that Nz FFA . BD JOE carted back and hard held at finish lol.... was a race of Great Tactics. and thrilling finish !! just like the following race 13 too !!!!!!! And the Grand-MASTER Won both of them !! Mark Purdon!! , coming from a mile back in both races with sensational drives on Self Assured and Cyrus !! Boysgetpaid happy too lol ππ° If you want to see to great races of driving , watch those 2 races again !!! races 12 and 13 Nov 11th. magical !! (bad luck to the Aussie too pipped very late, commentator called dead-heat he was that close ) -
Great question Chief !! !!!! can you move to another code if Disqualified? don't know for sure. probably not. the licencing folk would frown at the application ? maybe Darren Weir could of played with trotting horses past 4 years after being jiggered out 2019?. he was listed as training over 700 thoroughbred horses at the time. back next year too. Still definitely 'Part of the process' of preparing standardbred horses for racing is the initial breaking in, and the possibility of interacting with older horses is 'through the ceiling' high, if you dabble in the area where horses are on premises still . Impossible to police his actions (without the stipes in trees thing you guys are always on about) Disqualified = No horse Involvement .
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Martin Van Beynen has done a great job in the article.!! Points out>> McGraths penalty , his history is listed, and his almost remorse at getting 'special' treatment if allowed back early . Good on him (Nigel) for withdrawing the application to break in horses. Shows he actually does have some thought for his peers (fellow Trainers) who were against him returning early before DQ penalty served. Points out >>The 'silence' of the named Board members is mentioned. so shows they were making an 'error'. and hopefully will learn from this to avoid future recurrances. The situation now resolved thankfully π, and the positive image of harness racing restored , as it is shown to be still 'removing the Cheats' for a DQ period, that break the rules. and keeps it fair for all competitors.
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No such problem for The Galah . He'll spot any 'trot rot' from up high, or a bit of the horse grain if hungry, at very least while keeping a watch-out. Ideal RIU potential.
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May have developed his fear of vaccination needles from this nasty incident as well, when the wrestlers were giving each other 'flu' shots lol.... Brodster tried to help his opponent early on, impaling his face, but went for the wrong needle unfortunately lol. ππ
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Think you are talking King Curtis there . My dad's hero when I as a kid in South Auckland watching the great 'wrestling action. That guy Sure could Pull some faces !!!!!!! always thought he was Maori but see he is Hawaiian . He Became super popular 'beating' a lot of the up and comers. His scarred forehead looked great !! lol....... grand Nz stuff.
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What ... Aren't the ones he breaks in Ever gunna race ????? hahahaha must be a bad breaker ??
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Thanks Blackie , had a nice collect as only bet today was that double at Addington. So have had dinner brought in of nice Fish and Chips. Standard Nz tucker.π very tasty.ππ
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It was Blair Orange telling investigators Mr Wallis and Mrs Williams to F..off the property of Nigel McGrath in March 2020. He ultimately got a $1000 fine . No-one got 7 years for abuse. Blair was lucky to get that mild penalty? with his efforts of interferring with an official investigation.
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That's a bit rough Chief. The Galah is proven supporter of the industry and has been an excellent observor of all the harness goings on. Where's the evidence you say. Well mate People LIE Through their Teeth when charged with something OR if doing something 'against' the rules. They (the cheats) go 'Out of their way' to cover- up the evidence you so desparately seek. Inca, IRU , police, etc struggle against this tide.? I don't care who catches who. It's just good (and Very Important) that Someone is Looking !!!!! otherwise the Kerrs and Alfords and McGraths and their mates WIN Out !!! and deception would Rule ..... Damn Right it did !! everyone harness racing is tip-toeing a bit more now and being more honest than they may of been without it . Don't forget Crown Prosecution Cases LOSE Everyday in the Courts of Law. At huge dollar cost too, but trying to beat the 'Baddies' is Important !! sometimes they get off with lack of evidence. Just have to catch them next time mate ???
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Well there's a couple of easy ones on the big Addington track . De La Renta in race 8 from the good draw and Johnny Dunn on. You pick the 'other 9 races' lol. Allstars sending 2 around in race 9. Don't touch the Johny Cox one as he can't drive i have learnt here at BOAY. So A Bettor You with Blair Orange on is home for all money !!! I'm on a roll 2. patted two horses only at Albion Park last night , and then they both Won. (true story lol, went along for a birthday treat) so still got the winning touch lol......
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Lol . you can't have an entire Group 2 race full of bad drivers?. They do fine. Grant is a brilliant driver, and has near the best horse in Australia, and just won the Victoria Derby with Leap To Fame. (Beating the next best Aussie in 'Captain Ravishing' in the process) The 'only set up' for Leonard Cain was because he drew Barrier 1. in the Queensland Cup above in this thread . He was always going to be a chance on the back of stablemate and Auckland Cup winner TURN IT UP. (a fast beginner and in-form horse) Think you have to 'Turn It Up' a bit Forb's lol ... you're getting to emotional worrying about driving tactics. We all know you hate Allstars because of this. OF COURSE you're GOING TO HAVE driving / stable tactics. It's only natural. Your stable is trying to WIn the Race. I think Nz stables 'Do It Better' than what the Aussies do most of the time. (more room to move and longer distances to play with) . and well done Dexter in USA too >> whatagun !!
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No thanks. I was gunna protest your Qld thought there though but as in every State , there are some bad eggs. Barton Cockburn was doing very well as a trainer /driver 5 years ago before getting tangled up with disgraced low as you can go trainer S hunter, Mick grant and assorted fellows that like to bet. Even though they are disqualified sometimes. dragged down Shane Graham our leading Qld river for a couple of years too. But he is back now thankfully. Barton was disqualified indefinitely. one of the drivers did his time 'March' and is back in now too after serving his penalty. So don't worry Forbs .... they still catch these mugs , been good past 5 years. Shane Graham quinella the QUEENSLAND Cup last week with old kiwi war horses . Who's a bad driver in this race then ? ALL these drivers go great in my opinion , and are the main 11 drivers, that go around in most races. Pretty high quality IMO. 1st MACH DA VINCI NZ $ 31,120 Fr11Shane Graham Leonard Cain SWAB BROWN HORSE 5 by ART MAJOR USA out of MACH'S LOVE (NZ) () Owner(s): S (Scott) McDonald Breeder(s): T (Terry) McDonald 2nd TURN IT UP $ 8,893 Fr77Shane Graham Shane Graham $ 2.40 fav GS L 1 SWAB 3rd WILL THE WIZARD $ 4,447 Sr18Chantal Turpin Trent Dawson 4th BIG WHEELS $ 2,964 Sr513Chantal Turpin Chantal Turpin 5th SAM IS PERFECTION $ 1,976 Sr310Jack Butler Chloe Butler 6th NORTHVIEW HUSTLER NZ $ 520 Sr411Brendan Barnes Hayden Barnes 7th SWAGGIE SHANNON $ 520 Fr33Shawn Grimsey Grant Dixon 8th STAR GALLERIA NZ $ 520 Fr22Ricky Thurlow Luke McCarthy 9th WARFARE $ 520 Fr55Greg Franklin Nathan Dawson 10th BLACKSADANCE $ 520 Sr29Chantal Turpin Pete McMullen 11th CARDLESFROMHEAVEN $ 520 Fr66Ian Gurney Adam Sanderson 12th TOMMY LINCOLN NZ $ 520 Fr44Mark Dux Mathew Neilson