Gammalite

Do they do any of that at the gallops Chief?

Hey don't forget Nathan Purdon as well. What a time he has had with Amazing Dream (is it really a year since she won those 2 Group 1's already in Brisvegas.? time flies) and Amore Vita won $1/4 mill over the past year and didn't miss a place I think. great training in group races. Spellbound as well. Haven't seen Spellbound since she ran 2nd early in year to one of your list there in Jack Trainor for Nz with Stylish Memphis in a $200k mares race. wonder where they gone/are? america as well ? with Amazing Dream maybe..........

Cross Was/Is the stable farrier at Menangle. In all liklihood he still is shoeing for a living. plenty of good ones there to shoe. I always wondered if you got paid more to shoe fast ones ? lol.

I think to give the guy a good plug , I went back to see how he got on driving the Best horse in the country. In February, he got to drive the great SELF ASSURED from the outside gate (an extremely difficult task at most tracks in a short race) , and drove a fantastic race. He used the horse just right to keep BD JOE nicely in sight , and drove at it well to win and defeat his more favoured and well drawn stable-mates Franco Indie and Akuta on that occasion. A 10/10 drive from Maurice. great job. He might be a bit of a car with big motor , but mentioned that good drive by Maurice, as Tony H had a couple of cracks driving on Self Assured as well in April (for Mark and Nat), and got he beat both times. His only defeats this year from memory amongst his Very big wins. (and we're not picking on Tony yet.. lol..)

I think he means Not as 'daring' and 'grandiose' Chief... as you would be in younger days 1000's of drives ago. A lot of the older players get more 'safe' if you like , by just taking up a position and not having a 'Crack' as a younger and more vibrant driver might. AGH a notable exception. young vibrant Nat driving South Coast Arden for a while, was better judgement and winning, than old Mango. Mango was a great driver younger days driving Luxury Liner and others, but like Maurice and Ricky May and a few other 'safe' players, is more likely to take a back-seat to the Dexters and Pete McMullens and Luke and Todd McCarthy's of the world these days. Junior drivers quinellaed the last Interdominion Grand Final. A sign of the times......... (no chance of that happening last century)

yes he seems terrible with now 10 out of 10 unplaced runs in Aus.... an abnomily. On the bright side the young kiwi horseman Jack Trainor won tonight with another Southland horse BRAEVIEW KELLY . to make it 2 easy wins in Aus since coming from Nz where only won 2 in the last year in New Zealand. she is better than that obviously, and can now reap some wins !!!

A few do already Paleface!!. The leading trainers Robert and John Dunn while busy winning all the big Trotters races in NZ , sent their Pacer to Australia to race. ALTA ORLANDO picked up another $20k the other day when 4th in the' Blacks A Fake' Group1 in Brissy. Has picked up $70k from 12 starts this year. Probably better than what could of earned in NZ. also $50k when 3rd in the Interdominion Final last December. I think he'll get 3rd again this year too in Vic Interdom. (or hope so for the Dunn's anyway)😊🏆

Some more great points you have made. yes not worth the effort does apply to the financial area. as Brodie has out-lined. The enjoyment factor too, is a priority in racing a horse. you have syndicates owners, breeders, leaseing owners, and purchasing owners. so 4 groups. The last one puts the Trainer under pressure as you need a result to recover the purchase price and things go awry just when you don't want them too. seen it happen a few times. Syndication as Brodie said is great for bringing groups in. The 24 hour horse racing station on TV has ad's for the thoroughbreds every hour and are LIGHT YEARS ahead in getting owners togeather than trotting . I am convinced and would even buy int that , ahead of trots. very professionally done. My friend just finished racing his first horse with a 20th share (sold off at the big Gold Coast broodmare sale recently) She won 4 races including Flemington. Fees were quite manageable for small shares like that and you still make the racebook as a listed owner. I liked the Breeding owners as they are really attached to their stock and love them dearly through thick and thin. I Leased them myself as could send them 'home' when finished racing with them. I think TURN IT UP is racing well on lease from Nz . would love to get one like him !!

I think the Brodsters 7 points are near on the money Mr Galah. Nearly all trainers have 'arrangements ' with their owners to gain the most profit and make it affordable for all parties. All stables need vets , and is one of the major costs. usually itemised out separate to the monthly account. Training in the 90's was around your figure of $130 per week per horse. Everything is double that now , and having priced the cost of racing a horse in Queensland with local trainers . (I imagine would be similar Nz) I could itemise a few things but generally it cost you $1000 a month in the 90's, and is near $2000 a month now. 4 of us did 28 horses at a time training in the 90's. I would suspect that would be 8 people needed to do this amount of horses these days. So the horse pretty much has to win One race each weather season or 4 races per year ( , just to break even as Brodie has suggested. So not really worth the effort unless you can get a group or listed race performer (which is hard to do! lol )

just remembering Young Nz lass Ashlee Mundy was back home riding in Nz on a break from her home base at the Gold Coast when tragedy struck about 10 years ago at a Kurow meeting. They were saying at the time the young ladies were copping a horror run of injury and tragedy , that has continued at the rate of about one death per year from the young female jockeys. (the last jockey death Australia was Marina Morel Feb this year) a sad story for the lasses doing something they love, with that ever-present danger involved. here's an article from 3 years ago ............ MELBOURNE, Victoria, Australia - Nine out of the last ten jockeys to have died in racetrack incidents in Australia have been women. Two jockeys were killed in the space of 24 hours, the first on Friday. Mikaela Claridge, 22 died in a routine training incident during track work in Cranbourne, in suburban Melbourne. Then on Saturday, Melanie Tyndall, 32, at the Darwin Races, who had won the second race on a horse named Princess Leah, which marked her 150th win as a jockey - was killed in the third race when the heels of her horse clipped the heels of a horse in front. Tyndall who had recently become a police officer with the Northern Territory Police Force, was engaged to be married. "The impact of the loss of Melanie is deep and far-reaching," Brett Dixon, Chairman of the Darwin Turf Club, said Saturday. "There's shock and disbelief right throughout the racing community," he said. Des O'Keeffe, Chairman of the Australian Jockeys Association, told ABC News that horse racing was the most dangerous sport in Australia. "Unfortunately, there was a study done many years ago which provided those facts, that as a sporting pursuit there is nothing more dangerous," he said. "Safety equipment, whether it be plastic running rails, headwear, safety protective equipment, is as good as it can be. But there is an inherent danger in pursuing that profession." Martin Talty, the association's CEO, was quoted by the ABC as saying that all 20 horse racing deaths since 2000 were "tragic accidents" occurring across all horse racing activities including race falls, track work and barrier trials. "We all know it's a very dangerous sport, but it's a sport that all of these jockeys love," he said. "And it's a sport that we all love, and when something like this happens, it's a community that is impacted not just in the Northern Territory, but Australia wide." The fact that nine of the last 10 jockeys killed in Australia have been women was first reported by The Australian in a report penned by Brendan Cormick and Remy Varga, published on Monday. "Any racing death is one too many, and it is hard to imagine you can go to work and not come home," Racing Vioctoria's Chief Medical Officer Gary Zimmerman said Sunday. "To have two such tragic events happen in such a short time, everybody feels it," he told The Australian. "We've got a lot more female jockeys in the industry now, but if anything I think I see more of the males than the females," he said. The Australian listed the previous seven female jockeys, prior to the latest two who have been killed as: Donna Philpot and Riharna Thomas, who died in 2017; Frederike Ruhle and Liz Rice, who were killed at Caulfield in 2015; and Caitlin Forrest, Carly-Mae Pye and Simone Montgomerie, who died in 2014. The sole male rider who has died of the past 10 of jockeys to have died was Darren Jones, who was killed on a New South Wales country track in 2015. Pictured: Melanie Tyndall

That's what i'm saying. What a model to follow . Mr House could win a lot of races if fills the fields ?? not great from a punting angle though. Give it a miss altogeather? and starting 50 horses at one meeting takes a few trucks ! lol. a few junior drivers could 'get a Go' on the up-side.

Maybe Housie can turn into the 'Ben Yole of Tassie trotting' and pick up all the rejects around the place and dominate Nz trotting through weight of numbers ? Yole sometimes as 8-10 runners in a race in Tassie and 40-50 race starters per meeting lol.

Haha funny as..... the trotter that broke and lost 150m after the start, caught up and then started pulling lol. so it broke again . what are the chances ?? Phoebe Majestic left it's run a it late I feel. could of won it. The leader driven by a junior who hasn't won a race yet. Derek Balle's daughter i imagine. quite a chilled driver too lol !! relaxing in the armchair, into a 70.5 second last 800m as you stated. Do they Fine maiden drivers ? used to get a slow quarter fine once. maybe she got 2 lol?

Gammalite is the answer to that question ... 😊😉👍 lol. we're all grandstand driver's in a way , and Hunter just having a laugh along with it. All good. Your race in question , I thought Harrison did fine. (not to hit wheel and gallop) The horse coming around her was hanging very badly indeed on Tony. It damaged her sulky and guard , so is amazing she didn't steer into the inside horse's wheel harder if you ask me. Once when that happened to me , I collected the inside horses wheel altogeather , and went down in a screaming heap on the track 🙄 , while trying to physically push the hanging horse off my sulky. I got 2 weeks suspension lol.... for flipping the guy behind me out lol. wasn't even my fault really , but whatever. Actually was quite handy to of flipped John McMullen out , as he helped me untangle my horse and get it back to it's feet . so gave him a ride back on side of sulky, from the far side of track , with him grizzling all the way of course !! get over it John! lol.......

Freda , I was watching a few Nz races lately as in a comp on another channel and my initial thought was they're going full bore 600-700m out in most of the races I was watching. And racing tight with it , and generally fan out and survival of the fittest up the home running , without much drama. is this the norm ? I bet on Melbourne and Sydney Saturday races (Sydney seems way tighter than Melbourne so has more incidents like the Bowman one and the Berry one) but the jocks are More Patient ? I thought . and seem tostill be angling for a run after they turn for home , and time their runs well. Is it too Impatient in Nz races now ?

Lol .🤣🤣😂That reminds me of Daryl Douglas , who was one time leading Victorian free-lance driver. He got a disqualification, but in 2017 while disqualified , there was a stable-raid by stewards and to avoid being caught on the premises (where he was assisting training while DQ against the rules) , he went and hid in the Dog Kennel !! (didn't appear after to the hearing either lol, so coped fines, more DQ and even warned off to a time he did appear) hope he didn't get fleas 🐕‍🦺. he's back licensed now past year or 2 anyway.

Old Gaita has been 'booked' that many times it's almost funny. she's 65 odd now , think she would of had enough of pushing the envelope. They (stewards) threw her son TONY out for 12 years about 10 years ago. He might be back in a couple of years. Look Out for that one lol....

Just a bit shady lol. THE SHADY ONE just won the last race at Brisbane today Race 8 and was bet plunged in from 7-1 to $2.80 Fav. quite amusing I thought 😂 as here is his history for past three years.)...... His last Win before today was May 2019. **Spent the next year bashing around Brisbane without winning. **So spent Winter 2020 in NSW trying for a speed win at Menangle. unsuccessfully .... in 11 starts. **So off to the 'Graveyard' of horses ..Tasmanian harness racing and the expert chainsaw Yole stable. Unplaced in about 20 starts in that 'poor racing' state. ****BUT miraculously escapes the dogmeat ending !!!! 😯 not many do that ? and is back to Qld for another crack last Sept 2021 with Matty Elkins Training. So his first Win today at his 15th start for Elkins (Who drove the Leader today ) to Set up for his other Stable runner. First win in 3 years (amazing) , escaped the Tasmanian chainsaw (amazing) , Backed from 7 -1 into $2.80 (amazing) and home he goes easily by 2 lengths today 1.53.9 .......well it's an (amazing) world we live in isn't it ? lol.......

What does it explain .? Is only 3 hours away to Oz . and 600,000 kiwis live here. Very similar really. takes me longer to get to home town Tassie lol. another 'off-shore' island full of people that would prefer to be on the mainland 😉. Nice kiwi horse in today I've been waiting for to resume racing, since last Spring. If you're feeling like backing an old kiwi horse, he is showing 12-1 today which seems generous enough. ALTA SENSATION in Race 7 today Albion. Won a trial by 70m the other day and his 4 races in Oz last Spring at Albion were very fairly good .

Top draw stuff mate . you are a true credit to harness racing and put a face and story to lots of participants. AAAA++++🏆🏆🥇🥇

Au contraire mon ami , There's always a heap of lossers and only 'One' Winner . That's racing. (bar dead-heat of course)

Hands Down started from the Unruly, so was back with Delightful Lady anyway , behind the other runners. And 40 m behind her not long after the start according to the Journo's after being slow away. Lord Module dogging it completely it seems too sadly..... Seems Hands Down with Peter Jones steering gave the 'Lady' a big head start and probably deserved his win , rounding up the Field and all.

The 'Cone of Silence' might be needed by some for a moment ....... "Sorry about that Chief....." lol......

There's definitely something about the bend that isn't right . Could be the Camber . Could be the angle not correct. Yeah . yeah.....So often you see horses a little wayward there. One example good trotter Majestic Man after trailing leader got off balance and wouldn't pass the Purdon runner in the 2019 Interdominion grand -final trot there on the inside. so can be costly in a big race at times. I agree with Brodster would of been great to have the track left-handed. But costs make it impossible sadly these days. They changed Albion Park Brisbane from right to Left handed though. The Nz Cup winner Stanley Rio won the Interdominion Grand Final at Albion Park to complete his incredible 'double' going 'right handed' for the win. For the Noble Family from Canterbury. The greatest Oz trotter Maori's Idol raced the Pacers here fight handed , and ran 2nd in a Group 1 final to Rip Van Winkle too. A great effort.