mikeynz

Imagine how frustrating it must be for Southern trainers having to travel and then turning around and going home without even racing, spend all that time and cost for nought.

Good points, to the first post, maybe those thoughts and Mark Jones comments should be taken to heirachy of HRNZ and get their ideas, or explain their gameplan.

If you have room, add me.

Guerin is told what his employers want him to say.

Should have 2 maiden classes, those that ain't been in first 5 in last 5 starts are b, the rest are a , bs could race for half stake esclusively and remain a maiden until it wins a A grade maiden, just a idea. 5 starts after wins have no ratings drop, just my thoughts, that will slowly ease congestion but add some numbers up the ratings a little.

Would be interesting to gauge how much they like horses if they stop being a cash cow, there has been a small number winning all the races for young ones making a fast buck at the expense of the rest of the toilers.

Some big noms in some races yet starting limit for some is 10, why's that ?

I spoke Mr Youl or whatever his name in Tasmania probably does OK with only 4 being paid lol Would be very interesting if you only paid first 4 or 5, Racing would be a lot keener, no need to run a bye or two just to readjust the ratings.

Not from Monday, that's probably the easiest one , if you only have 6 and you can't beat the other 5 then you lose a point, so many anomalies, Southland sometimes take noms for rating 45 to 62, often have 2 rating 60s racing 51, that's not really like for like, the 62 wins and it goes to 66 67, the 51 wins it goes 55 56,

You will recall 2 years ago thick snow saw the last races canned, it is winter.

Despite the fact that it's free in tercourse, even that hasn't helped crowds many who do go probably gave up that pastime long ago🥸

I note Mr House has pointed out horses placed 5th don't lose a rating point,(may have been only 4) but the ratings system allows for manipulation which means sometimes they ain't trying, I still believe 6 starts after a win before you get any ratings relief, genuine struggles get help, maybe under that system they might all be trying, also the maidens don't have a rating until they win, but then should a maiden that beats 5 at Manawatu get same penalty as winning against 14 at Methven, lots of anomalies, why they continue to have rating 120 the max is beyond me.

They could investigate the possibility of a mini meeting at Ascot Park or something similar.

I'm not so sure if all in the media are excited about things, a lot are probably told what to or not to say or its see ya later, its probably the same when it comes to not talking about place prices pre race, I still havnt seen anyone on trackside denouncing the Greyhound ban, it's obvious why. As for the money from Entain, I wasn't aware how much the Government were supporting Entain until this week, I can actually live with that if that was and is the agreement before they signed the deal, be different though if it was simply a bail out, that would be different.

I'd be betting Wingatui tomorrow is a no goer.........have Trentham had heaps of rain, if so are they a goer, you only hope they don't wait until race 1 to find out either way.

Now that legislation has been passed, what is the split between codes for the 100 mill or whatever Entain are paying.

Nothing on HRNZs website about Mr Jones thoughts but it does state though that with legislation passed regarding Entain, Harness racing future is secure, hard to know what to believe, 5 years I've been here, about the time of the covid crash and the fallout racing wise, what are the odds another readjustment in 3 years time, me think odds are short.

Gee I thought Rangitira, not like you to write such long sentences until I got to the end, good article, one or two here say the same, but how many others?

Don't know anything about it but we need them more than they need us.

Wouldn't it be rich if Australia stopped allowing NZ residents to bet on Australian Racing due to the fact that NZ resudents can't bet on their site?

E mail Winnie.

Just reading the story again about the government funding Entain, it says it's in the agreement, well that is a bit different, if that's what it is sobeit, it dont appear to be a bailout, should they though, that's up for debate.

Well it is nice to know you have choice, TAB or Betcha, can't be all that bad after all.

Everyone has to live within their means, if the government is propping up Entain that isnt a good and then for how long, or is the Greyhound man in charge telling porkies as he has a are to grind?

Brodie if the story I read regarding how much the government is gifting Entain to meet their commitments in this new deal is true then clearly these guys are even worse than the TAB was allowing for the fact they have more backing, it also raises the issue in regards to the bribe Entain are dangling in regards to geo blocking going through, who is actually going to pay it? If these facts are in fact true then why have we not heard more about it, many taxpayers might not be impressed so much money is funding Entain and if it's true then the only verbal diarrhea being bleated on here is coming from one poster who claiming a good time to get involved when shortly it might be best to jump ship, only time will tell.