Brodie

There is a distance you are allowed to gallop for, used to be 150metres, and less than 50metres in the last 200metres! What I do know is that It did gallop for more than the 110metres that Nowornever says!! It galloped from the start until it went out Of view on Trackside so if if it wasnt 150 metres it was 149M!! The only way it didnt gallop for 150 metres is if they allowed the early stages to be classed as it being in a trot, even if it was very rough. If they didnt count that then it was 150metres!!

Fair enough, did look a lot more than that on trackside!

Fighting Fire the hot favourite was the winner of race 1 tonight at Addington. It went fantastic bearing in mind it galloped fo most of the home straight, after the start! Could someone enlighten us all what the current galloping/ breaking rule is for early breaking? It was hard to see exactly when it did actually trot but it appeared to gallop for at least 150 metres early on. Yes it was the best horse in the race by performance, but we have very few enquiries nowadays, so we need to get it right don’t we?

Question I pose is why do the Bookies always open their Fixed Odds markets so damn short? I always look at the harness odds on opening and without fail most of the horses with a chance of placing are opened at less than fair value!! From my unbiased point of view, this is hardly going to drive turnover!!! Great that the odds are brought out the night before the meeting, but if the odds are too short and they are going to lengthen the odds out the next day, why would most punters bother until the odds are lengthened? Yes there is money wagered early if punters want to get on in case others get on first! However, it just doesnt make sense to leave it till far later to encourage wagering!!! If you are running a book, they should be encouraging as much money on as soon as possible, and adjust the odds according to the wagering! There are many horses in a few of the races tonight, that are just so far under fair value, and therefore not worth the risk of offloading! What I have noticed is that horses that should be at say $3 for a place they will be at $2.0 for most of the time and then not long before race start time they lengthen to more like what they should be! By this time the agency has closed or they are not at the PUB TAB to back it, and they certainly are not oncourse!! The NZ TAB are grossly restricting turnover and this so called “Driving Turnover” that Phil Holden mentioned is just a load BS!!!! Punters are being turned off punting and many former regular racegoers, are just not bothering with racing anymore, and no new punters are coming thru. Unless the NZ TAB sort their shite out, racing in NZ is dead in the water!!!

It was only 14 seconds away from the second to Last horse, Ranga

Ranga, it finished last!

I believe it will need far more than the Korbyn Newman factor to get the horse around without galloping. At least many sill be watching just to see if “the Brodster” gets egg on his face, however as everyone knows, Brodie is always on the money!

Seems like a wee bit of money for no. 1 Missy Moo! 21 into 11 seems like a pretty good move for this horse, trained by Trent Yesberg. Where there is smoke there is fire as they say! Had a couple of 4th placings at the trials as a preparation up against some good trotters but led up both times and run down. It is questionable if it has been impressive enough to be offloading first up on those two trials? If you are having a go tonight then good luck to all.

We are still waiting for the stakes distribution to harness are we not? End of the week and nothing! Mr Holden?

They are having you on! Let them spend the money with a barrister! Courts are way too busy to be worried about something posted on a racing forum!!!

Hasnt blood spinning been banned? Not that there was anything untoward in it though! They are going crap though, although anything can win at Palmy, and even Spitfire would probably be semi competitive up there!

Seriously. This is not America! No one is going to bother suing anyone for anything in NZ, it costs far too much and for what? Winnie tried for a nest egg re his Super overpayments and look what it cost and for what? Everyone take a chill pill, we got bigger problems with this incompetent government! Geez Chief, can you take this down, Cindy might want to sue me!

And miss the Allstars obliterate the opposition, Happy? 6 horse fields, $1 divs, why would you miss that? Westeros at $4.80 big bets coming in on it?

Good to see a professional driver on! Matty Williamson not driving at the meeting?

There is very little chance that the horse will begin without galloping, let alone win! Seriously, where on earth do the Bookies get their odds from? The horse has been going horribly, Not even going away behind the mobile! Not getting close since it won its maiden a couple of years ago, and no decent trials that I know of, and $4.80? The reality is that The Bookies odds are only lengthened out to where they Generally should be, far too late to be able to back something, other than oncourse. No point on account!!

The NZ TAB bookies or accountants have Opened up Westeros In Race 5 at Addington on Friday night at $4.80 to win? Are they kidding, or do they know something that No one else including the horse knows? The horse has won once from 15 starts and no other placings apart from basically 0! Yes the horse may have shown some ability at stages but normally is erratic and certainly hasnt looked like winning for a long time and the Bookies open it up at $4.80 against multiple race winners! I appreciate that the horse has changed stables and the beach training may help but seriously major major unders! A tip for the NZ TAB Bookies, if you are looking to be driving turnover, you are not going to be doing this by continuing to post odds that are just so ridiculously under what they should be. Can Westeros win? Couldnt see it from the unruly and against better performed horses. Westeros has got ability but how on earth would the NZ TAB expect anyone to support Westeros at $4.80???

Had been wondering about that as well, although “next Week” has not finished yet! Auckland are racing for better money than they were and yet no announcement? They say they are able to pay the increased stakes out of their Pokie money which is clearly a good earner for them, Problem is, that if our Lefties/Greenies have their way, there will not be pokies around, as they think they are the root of all evil,and the vulnerable are tested!!!! That will put the cat amongst the pigeons for many hospitality industries and sports wont it?

Lol, I would suggest that the owners are not getting any value, even if they arent paying training fees!!!!!! Reality is that it is not anyones galloping pacemaker, unless someone can confirm otherwise. If it was Mr Faulks galloping pacemaker then I would kindly suggest that they leave it as such, as it is certainly not a successful racehorse! To continue to race a horse with Such limited ability as a 7 year old gelding is crazy! The gelding clearly doesnt enjoy racing and I would suggest that it Is not a GP and wouldn't like being a galloping pacemaker!! If it was, then surely it would be a helluva lot fitter and stronger than it currently is???

Do the owners really need to be paying out for a horse that can not run? I prefer the loose class racing as a punting option as well, however the point of the post was to query the logic in owning a horse that is not good enough to be at the races!

So about time Averos Spitfire had a fan club if the owners are going to continue to shell out! Maybe start up a Givealittle to pay for the costs?

Kelly Evander was nil as well, and shouldnt have had so many starts. wasn’t it trained by the owner, so cheaper and didnt it win a race and place?

Basil, we are all aware that not every horse that is bred as a racehorse stays in work for many years, just so that they are not put down! The majority of owners I know are wanting a reasonable return from spending $20k each year for paying training bills! The horse is a very poor performer and surely the owner and trainer should have realised by now, after 47 starts, that the horse is nil and doesnt deserve to be racing?

We can barely understand what he says, so how on earth are the DarkSiders going to? Mehe is just a troller, but it would be hilarious watching what went on over their with his colourful words, Happy!

Basil, forums are for debate and opinions, whether you appreciate the topic or not! I initiated the post, which in my opinion was that this horse didnt really deserve to be racing after over 40 starts, not a single dividend bearing placing. With the cost of training bills nowadays and seeing your horse finishing down the track every start, didnt make sense. Then a couple decided in their opinion it had nothing to do with anyone but the owner! The horse has continued to race and finish down the track with no real return apart from appearance money. Mehe, has come onto the scene calling me someone who is doing things, which is extremely upsetting to myself! Basil, the fact that the Averos Spitfire story is ongoing nearly weekly, is quite exciting I would have thought, with several enthusiasts waiting with baited breath for a placing! Whether that placing ever arrives is very debateable though! The TAB could run a book on it, will “the Spitfire” ever run a dividend bearing placing?

Mehe, I would kindly suggest that any horse that the champ, Averos Spitfire has ever finished ahead of, is still not racing after 47 unplaced dividend bearing places! To be fair Mehe, is YOU that comes on and writes gobbledygook without commas and fullstops, in reply to my weekly posting. If you do not like it, then don’t post and read a book with commas and fullstops!!!