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Hunter, I am not investing at the moment! Can not be bothered with the NZ TAB BS in regards to having to identify yourself for collecting $1k. Just not worth the effort until the TAB applies the rules in terms of the AML Act.

Couldn’t have it even if it started now lol

Roman, change the damn rule! She is not using the whip hard at all! The no. Of hits is totally irrelevant as to how much a horse is feeling the whip. Sam Thornley got busy with the whip and got done on Copperhead Rose due to the no. Of strikes! Jamie Keast hits the same horse a helluva lot harder than Sam Thornley did and that is ok under the stupid rule.

Where do I start Happy? Coming down on 2 Junior drivers who haven’t been driving for even a month is hardly doing the industry any good, when we are very short on young people coming into the harness racing game. We have a dwindling no. of horses being bred! We have a dwindling no. Of owners . We have less money being distributed around owners. We have punters being heavily restricted by the NZ TAB from wagering. We have a blatantly stupid whip rule. We have a domination of the stakes races by one stable therefore reduced field sizes and therefore horses being sold overseas! We have a dumb system where there is no enquiry when a horse gets checked! We have a system where the easy kill get hammered over others. We have operation inca which is so long winded that is costing the charged hundreds of thousands in legal costs! etc. etc.

I see the JCA at Oamaru on Sunday relieved Alana Cameron Of $150 for using the whip in excess of the permitted no. Of 10!!! She was driving the old plugger Paul’s Verdict who isn’t exactly known for his sprinting prowess, and he was a few back on the outer until running home fairly thru the urgings Of Alana, who has only just begun her driving career this year. She is not an overly large person and was hardly whacking the horse with all of her might, more just friendly persuasion. Just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever in hammering our newest Juniors with fines and license cancellations, hardly encouraging them to perform at their best!! There are far worse things going on in harness than Juniors trying their best to forge a career in harness racing! Racing Integrity? Yeah right!,,

The reality is that the ones that are getting charged are normally winning the race, they aren’t finishing out of the places! The whip is clearly giving the driver an advantage so reinstate the old rule and make it fair!

Yeah/Nah

Good to see Cran back training winners as he has been pretty quiet. Part of the reason 5 wins is due to M Anderson driving

Matt Anderson has always shown real promise as a driver, but this season he has gone to another level. Yes he has been driving Mitch Kerr’s horse but also others. 16 drives for 9 wins and a 3rd and a UDR Of 5833! Yes he has charges hanging over his head, however the harness industry can ill afford to lose young fellahs of his ability!

Sam Thornley lost his junior drivers license and sent back to the trials after his first drive! Ian Cameron gets fined $300. Both drivers won with their horses and both horses retained their first placing! Probably Ian Cameron’s first charge for using the whip in excess of the permitted amount! I appreciate that Sam Thornley’s was worse but on both occasions both drivers got excited with the prospect of their horses winning. The inexperienced driver gets hammered whereas the very experienced horseman gets away with not a helluva lot.

Only with oil and smoke, Ranga!

TAke the sleepers, you may not have to prove that you are not laundering money if you want sleepers!

Na, not investing at the moment! I am sulking and not currently prepared to play by the NZ TABs BS, in regards to having to prove that I am not a money launderer!

Noble Mistress I believe is trained at Rangiora and not Woodend Beach

Would not have won a race while it was with Maria Peritton. Never really showed anything while it was with her, and it just shows how much different trainers can improve a horse. There are many horses in Canterbury that could be improved dramatically with a change of trainer.

Plenty of examples Ranga! It is What you do to the Brodster, Ranga lol

Ranga does make stuff up just to antagonise Westview

So TAB not adhering to the $1k Ranga ?

Far better punting on mediocre fields that aren’t dominated by form! Only problem is that you can’t get much on!! Havent had a bet for 2 weeks and just can’t be bothered with this stupid punters flippen card. Anyone put on or collected over $1k without the card?

Wouldn’t bet on it Hunter. Owners pay big vet bills!

Can’t afford the power Ranga? Give the nags away and you will get reconnected!

The thing with Junior drivers is that really only learn on race day with fuller fields than at trials where the fields are small and times are slower. I respect any junior driver that takes out a license and then has to step up and race against not only their peers but against experienced horsemen. I believe that the Stipes need to take into account the inexperience of the Juniors when looking at things and they clearly did with Alana but not Sam Thornley. Both are going to make it as reins people in the Junior ranks and you have to remember that our top junior John Morrison took over 100 drives to gain his first win! Stipes are very erratic with their decision making and Some of their rules that they are applying just doesn’t make sense.

The Ozzie’s aren’t worried about the use of the whip! So why are we worried now? Go back to the previous rule that worked just fine. Drivers didn’t have to be able to count to ten or wonder whether they have hit to many times without a break. Blatantly ridiculous rule needs to go!

Does anyone know what the several new sources of funding coming on stream mean? reduction of betting levy? Point of Consumption? Race fields?

Ranga, go and get into the ones on the Darkside and tell them that charges weren’t dropped, as they are saying the charges against McGrath were DROPPED!!!