Brodie

It was psychologically detrimental to the health and wellbeing having the charges against them. The financial costs for legal costs and pressure on the relationships will never be recovered by those affected! It is just not right for people to be accused of something and have to bear the brunt of this when there is no case to answer. Just so easy to do this, we see it in other instances as well and you are classed as guilty and have to prove you are innocent, and at huge financial and emotional cost.

Ranga, I am not that way inclined! Would be very nervous if I was! Lol

Inca will go down in the annals of harness history in NZ along with the Blue Magic Saga, as a very sad time! What it does is puts a black mark against harness racing and we certainly do not need the very bad publicity that the poor media reporters continue to hammer home to everyone! MVB and his understudy Sherwood delighted in continually bringing up everything to do with Inca, and anyone reading it would think the harness industry was crooked! Mountain out of a Molehill was made by the RIB and personally think those involved in prosecuting and those Ratting on fellow harness participants should hang their heads in shame!! Yes life goes on for most, but the unfortunate tarnished reputations and financial costs to those mixed up in Operation Inca will never be the same!!! We can only hope that this BS doesnt happen again, unless there is proven evidence!

A Black Time for harness racing is this so called “operation Inca”. If this is the best that our police and harness officialdom can do, then we are totally stuffed! All these charges for race fixing etc going on for 5 years or so and then charges dropped? The eff wits that brought the charges need to be publicly exposed, lose their jobs abd severely fined for total incompetence. Harness participants have had their lives put in turmoil, financially crippling and other psychological problems! Time HRNZ stepped up snd hopefully come out snd do something for these people with a major apology and financial recompense! Racing Integrity, my arse!

I note Weasel a 16 year old MachThree gelding is still going around in Redcliffe! Having his 428th start tonight which won’t be a record but surely it is for age?? You just wonder how it is possible for a horse who is a geriatric is still able to keep the legs pumping after the thousands of miles he would’ve run? Has there been an older pacing horse ever raced? Doubt ever In NZ but I am sure Gammalite will know in Oz?

Does seem like crazy planning running 2 grass track meetings one day after the other, and even Addington on the Friday night? Going to be very interesting to see the field sizes for each meeting? Gives owners plenty of opportunity to give their horse a start!i

Good to have a perspective put on it from a younger one. If it is needed then it must be a good thing but going to be interesting to see who gets these positions around the country? Harrison you would know more than myself if these tutors have been asked for by the Junior drivers! Do find it hard to understand why they are required as all juniors are able to tap into most of the senior horsemen for advice. You have been in the top stables and not sure how you could have any extra advice from anyone else that you could benefit from. You will do very well in the industry Harrison.

As I asked before, wonder where the feedback came from that has said that our drivers need further education by way of tutors? Think ii is just BS, made up for some reason! Are they saying that our drivers are not good enough and need more training? I personally have not seen a single Junior out driving in a tote race in the past decade that should not be out there as they haven’t got the ability! Juniors nowadays have had thousands of hours working with horses and driving on training tracks. Then they have all the trials drives and have to be competent to even continue to drive at trials. If they weren’t going to make it surely trainers wouldn’t be allowing them to drive a horse? Fortunately there are only a very very small number of trainer/drivers that currently have the odd drive! And these ones just wouldn’t improve with any tutor. If it improves things a bit then all good but also HRNZ look into your own efforts in regard to your rules and officiating, as well!

Not sure where the feedback came from that says that they need these 3new tutors for improving driving? Personally reckon the driving skills are excellent by the time most of the drivers get to the trials track! The juniors nowadays are extremely skilled and they compete with the ones that have been driving for decades! Where I do believe there needs to be a new position created is a tutor to teach the HRNZ stipes a bit of common sense and get them out on the track so that they can have experience! The officiating decisions and rules are a far bigger problem than the driving of our professionals, who work a damn sight harder than the stipes and reap less financial reward in general!!!!!

Galah, not sure it is worth pointing out that the current handicapping system is totally unfair and needs amending again! A couple of years or more ago they had a brainstorming meeting of HRNZ and owners and trainers that was going to be full of these great ideas! What came out of this seems to be a messed up change of season date that we couldn’t understand. They seriously do need to once again change things and to be fair it would not be too hard! Just crazy that these horses that have won 10 races or so race one win horses! Not sure why HRNZ don’t come out and announce something in the wind, but there doesn’t seem to be anything! Its OK everything must be going well?

Massive run for technically an early 3 year old. They went hard up front and Nathan Williamson just let the horse go its isn speed without chasing it up early on after missing going away with the field. Only caught the field pretty late on and finished over the top with the last quarter in not much under 30 secs, which helped a lot for it to win. Horse certainly has massive potential and no doubt will receive offers from overseas buyers! Nathan Williamson is very skilled so will look after the horse if it stays in NZ.

Dont you mean Tim Butt, Chief?

AllStars stable went well as usual in the big races in Cup Week, Gamma! Nathan appears to be quite cool and non flustered like his father! There did not seem to be any sign whatsoever of his former training partner, which seems very odd seem it was the biggest week in the year for harness racing in NZ! It would appear that she is back in your country Gamma?

Think Forbury is talking about laying on Betfair! You can bet against a horse winning on their exchange!

What harness racing needs nowadays obviously is to attract new punters to attend the races and also punt on all other race meetings! I haven’t had a crack on anything for probably 8 weeks or so, just can not be bothered trying to find something worth backing and then not betting enough on. Gammalites punting competition organising is appreciated muchly and the fact that I was an also ran, confirms why I prefer to watch on Cup Day! Always a great social day out for the younger ones, but most wont be back for another 365 days. Addington probably do not care too much as they must make millions on the hospitality! $70 entrance on the day for general admission is not the way to attract people to attend during the year and the hospitality packages nowadays is just daylight robbery. Yes people are paying so I suppose that it must be OK for them but surely wont entice them oncourse regularly. Were some good interviews being done on the day, and the one Unhinged did on the members queuing up and then dashing to get a table was hilarious. Some looked like they were about to have heart attacks!

Gamma, thanks for your efforts once again with competitions. Just a reminder for Brodie why he won’t normally punt on Cup Day. Well Done to Holy for getting the big one in the first. Give me Ashburton Thursday any day lol!

There is sufficient racing in Canterbury so they dont need to travel south or north nowadays! Unless you win it is going to be a losing exercise for most! Palmy is going to close in the next couple of years you would think?

No wonder I dont like Cup Day for punting! Lol Cody Banner winning over 2 miles and trotting was too hard, Kingsdown Atom I did like, but didnt put it in my picks lol otherwise I would be home for all money!

Amazing start! Well done. Punters graveyard on Cup Day

Not sure I am allowed to say it Chief, but “The Whale” has been “Out Whaled”!

Palmy yesterday what a very poor meeting. Only 6 races and wouldve run at a loss surely for the TAB? Shows how they are stuffed when Michael House isnt there!

Lol, to be fair I wouldn’t be following me on Cup Day, as I normally watch but not offload! Just too hard to be confident as they are pretty even and havent put in much effort 😂 Haven’t had a go for many weeks now and enjoying the break! Would have a serious crack at the head to heads if they gave out option no.s!

Fields as per usual on Cup Day very hard to pick and make $,but Brodie will be in due to Gammalite putting in so much effort! 1. 4 16 2. 6 11 3. 11 12 4. 11 15 5. 3 6 6. 3 12 7. 2 7 8. 5 7 9. 6 7 10. 3 7 11. 9 15 12. 3 6 good luck to everyone that is having a go tomorrow,

Richie, you seem to know him better than he does himself! Where has it been published that what you say is correct? Nowornever is probably correct in what he says, if Robert didnt have enough for a deposit in a house in Wellington before the win, he still wont have a sufficient deposit, unless he is wanting to live on the West Coast of the S.I.! His loan repayments are going to much more than the $500 per week as well! To be fair, BOAY is the Premiere Racing site nowadays!

Correct, but he may become a professional punter just doing easy bets? Thing is the $106k wouldn’t be enough for a deposit on a house, but would be ok for the garage! Good on him if it is legit!