Nowornever Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Good news Brodie the bookies are getting worse as time goes on. The discrepancies between opening and closing odds is growing meaning value everywhere. I know a couple of blokes who have given them a hiding the last few months. The pricing on this meeting has been shocking lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Nowornever said: Good news Brodie the bookies are getting worse as time goes on. The discrepancies between opening and closing odds is growing meaning value everywhere. I know a couple of blokes who have given them a hiding the last few months. The pricing on this meeting has been shocking lol. Who is actually setting the Nz harness odds? Is it Nz or Ozzie do we know? Yes they are pretty erratic and always opportunities lol The website TAB comments are just so unbelievably poor and info is nowhere near as good as we had it before, but then again Entain doesnt care! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 minutes ago, Brodie said: The website TAB comments are just so unbelievably poor The Shepherds Delight comment on Sunday was "not on the money" by the widest imaginable margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 minutes ago, Rangatira said: The Shepherds Delight comment on Sunday was "not on the money" by the widest imaginable margin. It beggars belief that they are just so unbelievably bad! Many do not make any sense whatsoever, so What or who is capable of writing such BS? Yeah right, “Trusted for 20+ years” apparently lol. I suppose it is there to give us a laugh, but seriously, Could someone from the TAB/ Entain come on here and advise us as to how they have confidence in what is being dished out to the NZ punter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 50 minutes ago, Brodie said: I suppose it is there to give us a laugh, delivering in spades 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Cambridge 8 9. Bettor Reaction (UR1) Last start 5th (Fr7) over 2200m at this track, beaten 10 m by Eyes To Heaven (2:43.80) on January 3 at $3.70. Before that, a game effort when 2nd (Fr4) over 2200m at this track beaten 7 m by Debbie Lincoln (2:42.90) in 2yo+ on December 24 at $8.60. Worth another chance from a much better draw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, Rangatira said: Cambridge 8 9. Bettor Reaction (UR1) Last start 5th (Fr7) over 2200m at this track, beaten 10 m by Eyes To Heaven (2:43.80) on January 3 at $3.70. Before that, a game effort when 2nd (Fr4) over 2200m at this track beaten 7 m by Debbie Lincoln (2:42.90) in 2yo+ on December 24 at $8.60. Worth another chance from a much better draw. Yes you get this crap in every single race. You just could not make it up! Whoever or whatever writes the comments are just hopeless and Entain are telling us that they Trust this outfit for 20+ years? You can tell that they do not care a rats about harness punters! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I hate the term metres in the margins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 hours ago, mikeynz said: I hate the term metres in the margins. Yes totally agree, give me a lenght any day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Shad said: Yes totally agree, give me a lenght any day Pointless them making comments on the horses as the info they put in the comment is already showing? They make a comment such as, has been going poor recently, win chance! 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 hours ago, mikeynz said: I hate the term metres in the margins. Just something they use here to correspond with the handicapping. which is done in metres. Always think of 3m as equals One length , and you can't go wrong. If a horse wins by 5 lengths , that's 15 m so pretty easy to convert. Says when it says that 'Better Reaction' was beaten 10m so that is just over 3 lengths ,( and is therefore more precise in the actual measurement ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 Do you think they will pay out on the 26 and 81s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 14 hours ago, Nowornever said: Do you think they will pay out on the 26 and 81s Missed the decimal point. The thing is that even if you actually got on at those odds, they would cancel the bet. Been there done that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 14 hours ago, Nowornever said: Do you think they will pay out on the 26 and 81s I wonder who DID get on at those odds. 7 minutes ago, Brodie said: Missed the decimal point. How? Surely once the initial odds are set they are then done programmatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted Friday at 10:33 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 10:33 AM They have got absolutely no clue on this race. Just trying to keep all runners as short as they can. Are the aussies bookies doing opening odds on these meetings now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted Friday at 08:19 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:19 PM 9 hours ago, Nowornever said: They have got absolutely no clue on this race. Just trying to keep all runners as short as they can. Are the aussies bookies doing opening odds on these meetings now? I thought they had been for quite awhile? It is great to get fixed odds out for NZ harness far earlier than when the NZ was doing it , better for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM (edited) 15 hours ago, Nowornever said: They have got absolutely no clue on this race. Just trying to keep all runners as short as they can. Are the aussies bookies doing opening odds on these meetings now? the whales tip, arizonawildcat in that race has now dropped into $4.20 from $10. Its amazing just how much the tab drop his tips prices. ok,he may win now i've said that,but to me,anyone who does their form, would not have it as a $4.20 shot. Even the $10 it opened at seemed rather short to me. The money tracker on the tab website has it the most supported runner by far.The whale sure must have some followers who don't think for themselves. Edited yesterday at 02:29 AM by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 02:41 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:41 AM 15 minutes ago, the galah said: the whales tip, arizonawildcat in that race has now dropped into $4.20 from $10. Its amazing just how much the tab drop his tips prices. Isn't a reaction to the amount of money actually bet? The bookies very rarely intervene to set a price as it is done programmatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted yesterday at 02:50 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:50 AM 22 minutes ago, the galah said: ok,he may win now i've said that,but to me,anyone who does their form, would not have it as a $4.20 shot. Even the $10 it opened at seemed rather short to me. The money tracker on the tab website has it the most supported runner by far.The whale sure must have some followers who don't think for themselves. Must be a terrible field then. That horse hasn't won since June 2023. How would anyone with any sense put money on it , when there's an amazing amount of good gallopers in today with great form and paying $5 plus. I suggest the Aussie in the Avondale Guinea's to be a chance at getting a quid 😉😎🏇💰👍 double figure odds too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 18 hours ago, Gammalite said: Must be a terrible field then. That horse hasn't won since June 2023. How would anyone with any sense put money on it , when there's an amazing amount of good gallopers in today with great form and paying $5 plus. I suggest the Aussie in the Avondale Guinea's to be a chance at getting a quid 😉😎🏇💰👍 double figure odds too. Gamma, you shouldnt be encouraging any punter to be gambling on gallopers. Harness is where the money is made. You deserve to lose gambling on thoroughbreds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 11 hours ago, Brodie said: Gamma, you shouldnt be encouraging any punter to be gambling on gallopers. Harness is where the money is made. You deserve to lose gambling on thoroughbreds I certainly admire you supporting the 'backblock' horses at the TROTS (along with The Galah and Newmarket or whoever is having a go ) But in All seriousness , one has to be pretty well off, and have a unaffected by money mind, to risk any cash on Fergalicious and all those type of horses racing at that meeting yesterday and similar ones. Arizona wildcats? please..... Better off buying my milk. I actually want to win with 'every dollar' I put on . (don't even box trifecta's if taking one lol 🤣) I make most money off football gambling dollar wise. like a lot of sports gamblers that know there's too many pitfalls in horse racing 💰. Then the gallopers (Victoria gallops nearly all the time as most consistent, then Sydney ) although had a bet on The DoctorOfLove at Ellerslie Guinea's yesterday which was very handy . Harness racing only gets a fraction of people's gambling dollar. I'm sure you know that already ?? there's Waaay too much risk with Standing starts, hemmed in in Big fields and all sorts of bad luck that can happen. And harness horses are just a hobby bet lol. There's Not many good horses around, and when they are , they are fairly short in the odds. I did ok Cup week (with $50 bets) and landed 10 out of 15 placed. Mainly on Regan Todd runners I was following. DSD got beat in the Cup on me , when nearly won. (bloody Swayzee again 🙄) cost me quite a large 4 figure sum collect on Akuta the year before I had riding with a lot of multi's in the Cup. bloody Swayzee. wish I'd NEVER heard of the bloody horse 🙄🤕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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