Newmarket Posted Friday at 06:58 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:58 PM Not seen any pushback from Harness or Gallops regarding Greyhound racing ending soon. I never ever thought that we would see the end of dog racing in NZ…. saying that I am happy they are going, mainly because I hate watching them. Any views? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted Friday at 07:28 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:28 PM I think that the likes of Invercargill will feel it! as in the Dogs offered quite a few days wages for workers that work on race days for the three codes... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted Friday at 07:41 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 07:41 PM 12 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: I think that the likes of Invercargill will feel it! as in the Dogs offered quite a few days wages for workers that work on race days for the three codes... But are you surprised after the announcement, that very little has been said from other codes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted Friday at 08:41 PM Share Posted Friday at 08:41 PM 52 minutes ago, Newmarket said: But are you surprised after the announcement, that very little has been said from other codes? No. The 'other codes' can barely communicate with the wider public as it is...yes, initiatives are publicized on racing channels and other media but not to Joe Citizen who largely remains oblivious to the likes of welfare matters, traceability, rehoming, etc. Likewise the money spent by GRNZ on treating and repairing injured dogs before going to rehoming kennels is just not known either, talk about industries bent on self destruction. If these matter were made public, very public, it would have been a lot harder for Winston to get suckered into a backroom deal for whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Friday at 09:07 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:07 PM 21 minutes ago, Freda said: No. The 'other codes' can barely communicate with the wider public as it is...yes, initiatives are publicized on racing channels and other media but not to Joe Citizen who largely remains oblivious to the likes of welfare matters, traceability, rehoming, etc. Likewise the money spent by GRNZ on treating and repairing injured dogs before going to rehoming kennels is just not known either, talk about industries bent on self destruction. If these matter were made public, very public, it would have been a lot harder for Winston to get suckered into a backroom deal for whatever. Yeah na. What you need to realise @Freda is that the very small anit-racing minority targeted Greyhound racing. Most people either have owned a dog (most mistreat them) or know someone who has one. So the emotional string was a strong one to pull regardless of what the industry does or doesn't do for caring for Greyhounds. Nowhere near the same for horses. Then you have the likes of @Yankiwi and other supposed Greyhound Racing supporters undermining the whole industry with pure unadulterated crap. They even fed the key anti-dogracing media. The only to stop the minority is to have a strong financially viable industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted Friday at 09:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:29 PM 21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: The only to stop the minority is to have a strong financially viable industry. I'd say we are well past that being a possibility for TR any longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Friday at 10:42 PM Share Posted Friday at 10:42 PM 1 hour ago, curious said: I'd say we are well past that being a possibility for TR any longer? That's negative thinking. Still 3 years to turn things around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted Friday at 11:23 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:23 PM 1 hour ago, curious said: I'd say we are well past that being a possibility for TR any longer? lol, I could draw you a 50 year graph line, as it heads into the sunset... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted Friday at 11:43 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 11:43 PM So will the TAB / Betcha continue to take gambling on greyhounds from overseas venues? One would say no, but who knows. When Entain took over didnt they state all TAB staff would have jobs for 2 years…. must be only a few months away, be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Friday at 11:57 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:57 PM 12 minutes ago, Newmarket said: So will the TAB / Betcha continue to take gambling on greyhounds from overseas venues? One would say no, but who knows. Why would it change? They load the product with meaningless races from every remote location in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted Saturday at 03:11 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 03:11 AM 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Why would it change? They load the product with meaningless races from every remote location in the world. Well, if they are banning dogs in NZ, surely couldn’t take dog racing from overseas? What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted Saturday at 04:04 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:04 AM 8 hours ago, Newmarket said: But are you surprised after the announcement, that very little has been said from other codes? There has always be a hierarchy in play! with the dogs running a distance 3rd. To be honest I have not been following enough racing social media to be offering much insight! I mentioned the Invers example as I know people that work at the all the different 3 codes, a big loss of wages lost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted Monday at 04:59 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:59 AM There are people amongst us who are quite selfish. I don't know why we let minority groups to have any effect though. Every year the protestors voice their opinions Melbourne Cup week but, I can't see the Spring Carnival ceasing any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shab Posted Monday at 07:51 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:51 AM On 2/15/2025 at 7:58 AM, Newmarket said: Not seen any pushback from Harness or Gallops regarding Greyhound racing ending soon. I never ever thought that we would see the end of dog racing in NZ…. saying that I am happy they are going, mainly because I hate watching them. Any views? What form could any support from the other codes take? Threats of strike action, petitions, jockeys, drivers and trainers camping out in front of the Beehive? i want to see greyhound racing continue. Beautiful animals. Love watching them run. I can put in a submission but that's about as much use as closing my eyes and wishing for it after seeing a shooting star in the night sky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assange Posted Tuesday at 12:08 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:08 AM On 2/15/2025 at 12:57 PM, Chief Stipe said: Why would it change? They load the product with meaningless races from every remote location in the world. I read somewhere that they take over 25% of the betting. How is Entain going to make that deficit up if dog racing is canned? And yes, many may not like watching them, but we'll just get more Aussie dogs on Trackside to fill the void. Isnt it better to support our own industry.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted Tuesday at 12:27 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:27 AM 16 minutes ago, Assange said: I read somewhere that they take over 25% of the betting. How is Entain going to make that deficit up if dog racing is canned? And yes, many may not like watching them, but we'll just get more Aussie dogs on Trackside to fill the void. Isnt it better to support our own industry.? Would be hypocritical if we banned dog racing but still had aussie dog racing but don't worry about Entain about making up the deficit, with geo blocking they will be creaming it with all the money floating back, or are they just gambling on that ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted Tuesday at 12:40 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:40 AM 33 minutes ago, Assange said: I read somewhere that they take over 25% of the betting. How is Entain going to make that deficit up if dog racing is canned? You assume that that 25% is made up of punters that don't bet on anything else. My view is that it is the thin end of the wedge and Winston needs to harden up as there aren't that many votes in it. Give an inch to some weird minority and you end up like the basket case the UK is. Perhaps Shane Jones should be Racing Minister. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted Tuesday at 03:49 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:49 AM 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: You assume that that 25% is made up of punters that don't bet on anything else. My view is that it is the thin end of the wedge and Winston needs to harden up as there aren't that many votes in it. Give an inch to some weird minority and you end up like the basket case the UK is. Perhaps Shane Jones should be Racing Minister. Will they lose the churn punters and instead be better able to focus on those requiring more info,vision etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted Tuesday at 09:08 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:08 AM 8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Give an inch to some weird minority and you end up like the basket case the UK is. Perhaps Shane Jones should be Racing Minister. I like the way you think on this issue. Shane Jones has been pretty strong of late, particularly against Maori on Maori issues but, that probably wasn't aired on mainstream TV. As Minister for Foreign Affairs how did Winston Peters let the Cook Islands sell out to China? What a disaster for the South Pacific. I am angry the way minority groups are scaring politicians shitless. NZ definitely seems a little low on real men these days. We are many steps behind the eight ball too. Just two genders in USA now. It's a shame Donald Trump thinks our country is a third world one on a par with Congo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 15 hours ago Author Share Posted 15 hours ago Pretty sure TAB / Betcha would see punters that gamble on the dogs…. would bet on anything, so will find anything to punt on. Most punters have a certain amount to spend, I would be surprised if many punters just only bet on dogs, so will spend the same on sports, harness & racing. I would say that other 2 codes happy dogs going, takes pressure of greenies looking at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 8 hours ago, Newmarket said: I would say that other 2 codes happy dogs going, takes pressure of greenies looking at them I think that release of pressure would only be short term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Special Agent said: I think that release of pressure would only be short term. You're not wrong. I understand what the equine part of the industry think about the canine part BUT it was a bridgehead. The equine part is naive if they think the heat won't turn on them! Even though the anti-racing mob are a very small minority. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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