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I,ve never had a prob with how Jase runs the show, and good fun for a small investment..

.too scared not to be in...Big collect looming ! so have joined the RP also...nothing personal

(belong to the 3 Racing on-line chat sites now)...won,t miss anything !

 

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23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Alan Heslop's alternative site.  Apparently I run a crap site.  But I'm sticking with free speech.

Please Doug, playing the victim card again9_9

Might catch a few, but you are the author of your own destiny.

Many people have not liked the way you have run BOAY, and voted with their feet.

By the way, I cannot recall giving you permission to publish my name, so it appears that is one principle that has gone by the wayside.

Hedley, I'm sure someone will send you the link to RP, it won't be me sorry.  I've copped enough opprobrium from some of the non-thinking hypocrites on this site.

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34 minutes ago, hesi said:

Please Doug, playing the victim card again9_9

Might catch a few, but you are the author of your own destiny.

Many people have not liked the way you have run BOAY, and voted with their feet.

By the way, I cannot recall giving you permission to publish my name, so it appears that is one principle that has gone by the wayside.

Hedley, I'm sure someone will send you the link to RP, it won't be me sorry.  I've copped enough opprobrium from some of the non-thinking hypocrites on this site.

Hesi your name has been published here many times.  YOU are the hypocrite.  Why don't you share your personal messages?  Or do you just work behind the scenes?

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6 minutes ago, All The Aces said:

I still can't see how Thomass caused any trouble to the Punter's Club. He never posted once (unless it has been deleted) in 26 pages of the Punter's Club thread. In all those pages it has been about punting by others and  a few wedding photos. ?    

I did post earlier on that he had nothing to do with it

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  22 hours ago, barryb said:

Wow, what happened Turny? The guys in there just got bored of reading Thomass shit & other in fighting?

 

First post in a while Barry, I'm straining:)

Nothing to do with the VI in this case Barry

These forums are many things to different people, punters clubs, comps, tipping threads and serious debate on racing issues.  None are mutually exclusive.

For all the talk on free speech, there is another principle that seems to have been ignored here, looking after the people that contribute to your site.  No one should have to endure personal abuse in doing that(that is some peoples version of fun)

That's the reason the Punter's Club is moving, along with a few other things.

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1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Hesi your name has been published here many times.  YOU are the hypocrite.  Why don't you share your personal messages?  Or do you just work behind the scenes?

That's strange Doug, I searched my name on the site, and it only comes up once, your post, about 2 hours ago.

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Heslop you got your nose out of joint because I wouldn't kowtow to your demands.  You wanted to be in charge and moderate in much the same way as the site you first left does.

You're two faced and before you pull the personal abuse card it's a fact.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds much the same as the Government you support.

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17 hours ago, porky said:

 

(belong to the 3 Racing on-line chat sites now)...won,t miss anything !

 

I try not to mix racing and politics...Bloody hard @ times given the state of NZ racing.

I do air those views from time to time.,

BUT TAKE NO NOTICE OF INDIVIDUAL POSTS...EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION. 

BUT SHIT, THIS PERSONAL ABUSE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD STOP.

I have simply moved with the punters club and joined those particular 3 sites.

You have run a good ship Chief ! , and  remain on board !

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On 14/06/2019 at 8:12 PM, hesi said:

I did post earlier on that he had nothing to do with it

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  22 hours ago, barryb said:

Wow, what happened Turny? The guys in there just got bored of reading Thomass shit & other in fighting?

 

First post in a while Barry, I'm straining:)

Nothing to do with the VI in this case Barry

These forums are many things to different people, punters clubs, comps, tipping threads and serious debate on racing issues.  None are mutually exclusive.

For all the talk on free speech, there is another principle that seems to have been ignored here, looking after the people that contribute to your site.  No one should have to endure personal abuse in doing that(that is some peoples version of fun)

That's the reason the Punter's Club is moving, along with a few other things.

You most definitely are a hypocrite Herman...

You published, according to you, my 'accurate' personal details...

...living with my mother and I'm deaf as well

Are you really that stupid you could believe anything so ridiculous?

Then you expected me to go searching Bazz's account for when he said I had a mental illness and should kill myself...when you could have easily found it...

...so forgive me for giving Bazz some stick back...

...he should have been the one banned not me

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I've always tried to respond immediately to any abuse that people have reported.  Quite frankly this isn't the issue here.  The statement by Hesi that the issue  is "looking after the people who contribute to your site" is a damn good clue to what the problem is.

I repeat there has been a concerted effort by Hesi and his cohorts to lobby behind the scenes, often using the BOAY forum and facilities to do so, to undermine BOAY and attract contributors to a forum that Hesi is in charge of.

Hesi (Heslop) threw his toys because he felt that because of the "work he did here" that I had a moral obligation to accept his demands on how to run BOAY.  I felt no such obligation - I did NOT ask Hesi for support in the setting up of BOAY in fact I was very careful to say to him that I COULD NOT CONTROL WHAT HE WANTED TO DO and that it was entirely up to him.

His actions caused me quite some grief.  I had threats via email and texts from McKenzie and Molloy.  I have several letters from Bell Gully and another legal firm threatening action for actions I had no part in.  I'd love to post copies of that correspondence and more.  

Did I dob Hesi in or sacrifice him to the "suits"?  NO.  Do I have any obligation to Hesi for any work he did?  NO.

I did not lobby Peter J or Jason to join the site and promote their competitions.  

The moral argument of "after everything I did for you surely you can support me" does not hold any water when it conflicts with the principles of BOAY.  

IF it did then you would have the likes of Molloy and MacKenzie BUYING favours and controlling the conversations.  I'm not a mercenary in that respect and is one of the reasons why I left Racecafe.

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32 minutes ago, All The Aces said:

I heard yesterday that Heslop did the same on another website (banned?) and then again on this one.

Seems to have some history as a right troublemaker it would seem. ? 

I know you stick to your free speech principles CS but does this Judas deserve any oxygen here?

Probably not but BOAY is different.  Blatant advertising will be hidden - but then I guess socialists like everything for free or at others expense! 

If anyone wants to volunteer to run a punters club here you will have my full support.  Any donations to "charities" will be declared from the start.  

Please message me if you are keen.

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On 14/06/2019 at 5:40 AM, Mooncoin said:

Turny,a legitimate question  here!

What has been the strike rate for the punters club over the years?

Sorry only just realized about this thread. Too be honest strike rate has been poor but too be honest its been more about friendship and a combined passion for racing. And for small punters watching $400 worth of bets going around instead of their $20 has an enjoyment factor. We have been close to the big collect so many times.

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On 14/06/2019 at 8:05 PM, All The Aces said:

I still can't see how Thomass caused any trouble to the Punter's Club. He never posted once (unless it has been deleted) in 26 pages of the Punter's Club thread. In all those pages it has been about punting by others and  a few wedding photos. ?    

I have never had any dealings with the poster named but i think some of the club members dont like the way they act but he had no bearing on the move

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3 hours ago, Thomass said:

Who and what is Jase and where did I personally abuse anyone...first?

Is he related to Vorhees?  It'd be a horror show if he left though...come back Jase...

yay.....let's do this...

I personally have not had any dealings with you and you did not factor in the move

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30 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Probably not but BOAY is different.  Blatant advertising will be hidden - but then I guess socialists like everything for free or at others expense! 

If anyone wants to volunteer to run a punters club here you will have my full support.  Any donations to "charities" will be declared from the start.  

Please message me if you are keen.

Hi CS

Is the charity comment directed at me? As charity in last club was declared from the start and agreed on by members.

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