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Junior driver A Cameron after 300m steered her horse onto the wheel of the horse inside her,causing her horse to trip and break. As well she flattened the tyre of precious megan resulting in it taking no real part thereafter. An extremely poor piece of driving.t

The stipes apparently  gave her some friendly advice.Yet Sam Thornley loses his licence for some time for excessive use of the whip. 

Talk about inconsistent enforcement of the rules.

Inconsistent stipe penalties seems to be creeping back. into harness racing.  I don't know why some seem to be favored over others although who the stipes on duty are seems to be a factor again.

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Happy Sunrise Grand Master

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11 hours ago, the galah said:

Inconsistent stipe penalties seems to be creeping back. into harness racing.  I don't know why some seem to be favored over others although who the stipes on duty are seems to be a factor again.

Because the use of the whip in harness racing is just like the head in rugby - a no go area.

 Hence, the seemingly 'inconsistent' penalties.

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2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said:

Because the use of the whip in harness racing is just like the head in rugby - a no go area.

 Hence, the seemingly 'inconsistent' penalties.

The Ozzie’s aren’t worried about the use of the whip!

So why are we worried now?

Go back to the previous rule that worked just fine.

Drivers didn’t have to be able to count to ten or wonder whether they have hit to many times without a break.

Blatantly ridiculous rule needs to go!

Brodie Grand Master

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The thing with Junior drivers is that really only learn on race day with fuller fields than at trials where the fields are small and times are slower.

I respect any junior driver that takes out a license and then has to step up and race against not only their peers but against experienced horsemen.

I believe that the Stipes need to take into account the inexperience of the Juniors when looking at things and they clearly did with Alana but not Sam Thornley.

Both are going to make it as reins people in the Junior ranks and you have to remember that our top junior John Morrison took over 100 drives to gain his first win!

Stipes are very erratic with their decision making and Some  of their rules that they are applying just doesn’t make sense.

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15 minutes ago, Brodie said:

The thing with Junior drivers is that really only learn on race day with fuller fields than at trials where the fields are small and times are slower.

I respect any junior driver that takes out a license and then has to step up and race against not only their peers but against experienced horsemen.

I believe that the Stipes need to take into account the inexperience of the Juniors when looking at things and they clearly did with Alana but not Sam Thornley.

Both are going to make it as reins people in the Junior ranks and you have to remember that our top junior John Morrison took over 100 drives to gain his first win!

Stipes are very erratic with their decision making and Some  of their rules that they are applying just doesn’t make sense.

I don't agree that the stipes should take into account the inexperience of juniors.

Thornley seems to have been penalized because of his inexperience, whereas  A Cameron has gotten away with sub standard driving that an amateur would have got 3 months for. One rule for the juniors .another rule for the amateurs and another for everyone else.

Seems ridiculous to me and will only lead back to where harness racing was a few years ago where  those on the wrong end of inconsistent penalties become disenchanted.

the galah Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Tell me who can tell the difference in real time between hitting the side of a horse's rump and the sulky shaft?

I understood  it makes no difference whether you hit the horse, the shaft or thin air.

I think you will get fined if you just do the motion of a strike with the whip even if they can see you never hit the horse once.

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I think you are right galah. They don't want anything that looks like hitting the horse that will upset the "do gooders". Another case of the majority giving in to the minority, in this looney left liberal world we live in. No common sense whatsoever.

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Rusty Experienced

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4 hours ago, the galah said:

I understood  it makes no difference whether you hit the horse, the shaft or thin air.

I think you will get fined if you just do the motion of a strike with the whip even if they can see you never hit the horse once.

That is my understanding too. 

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2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said:

Has anyone asked the horse?

In terms of the rules, it doesn't a difference, but dead right, someone should ask the horse, even though we all know what the answer would be....

It would not be neigh! 

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Chief Stipe Grand Master

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10 minutes ago, Trotsfan said:

I think Ross Houghton has been fined and suspended for hitting the shafts 

That's ludicrous!!  I suppose you are not allowed to slap the reins across the backside either!

Have boring poles with prickers been banned?

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Happy Sunrise Grand Master

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3 hours ago, Rusty said:

Apparently a driver can't even whip another driver when going down the back straight without getting fined these days. 

Nor do a 'Gavin Smith' and hit a stable runner down the home straight to get its mind on the job.

Oh for the good ole days.

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I must say when the whip eventually disappears not many big punters will have much confidence in betting on the horses, not that I think it's a good thing for the horses, but a few wake up calls does help.....it will get to the point where horses will just switch off and punters will leave in droves because form won't Matter.

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