Southland owners ban Canterbury raiders

[Westview]

Not really, but I bet they want to 

[Happy Sunrise]

8 minutes ago, Westview said:

Not really, but I bet they want to 

I thought in the in last couple of seasons the southerners had started to hold their own. However, when you the have trainers like Court and Dunn turning up with good types instead of going to Addington it makes it harder. To be fair, Mark Jones has lifted his game recently and seems to be doing better (unless I wasn't paying attention) so you can add him to the list.

They all must using the 7 secret bowls of success manufactured by you ?

[Guest CrossCodes]

There are are a lot of good horses still being bred and trained in Southland, unfortunately there are very few good drivers down there and the horses won’t reach their full potential.

[Richie]

8 minutes ago, CrossCodes said:

There are are a lot of good horses still being bred and trained in Southland, unfortunately there are very few good drivers down there and the horses won’t reach their full potential.

Poor drivers down there for years 

Williamson's only good drivers

[Richie]

Kirstin just lost that race with a poor drive.Need a new driver for cup

[Rangatira]

1 minute ago, Richie said:

Kirstin just lost that race with a poor drive.Need a new driver for cup

will blair get a steer soon

[Westview]

Drive of the day nathan's on franco santino, last half in 55.9

[Newmarket]

54 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

will blair get a steer soon

Cant see him having a go? 

[Counter Punch]

55 minutes ago, Richie said:

Kirstin just lost that race with a poor drive.Need a new driver for cup

You are kidding me right? 

Richie, please do explain what Kirstin was supposed to do. And please keep in mind that she stated and stipes reported that the horse would be driven with a sit.

2.51 post to post and run his last half in 53. 

[Rangatira]

1 minute ago, Newmarket said:

Cant see him having a go? 

committed to sheriff ?

[Counter Punch]

Just now, Rangatira said:

committed to sheriff ?

Gran Chico..

[Rangatira]

2 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

Gran Chico..

go ricky go ricky

[hunterthepunter]

2 hours ago, Counter Punch said:

Gran Chico..

major jack

[hunterthepunter]

2 hours ago, Rangatira said:

committed to sheriff ?

cloud nine

[hunterthepunter]

3 hours ago, Counter Punch said:

You are kidding me right? 

Richie, please do explain what Kirstin was supposed to do. And please keep in mind that she stated and stipes reported that the horse would be driven with a sit.

2.51 post to post and run his last half in 53. 

crap Richie the Franco horse just ran them off there feet and is very smart horse

[Flagship uberalles]

1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said:

cloud nine

Daddy's girl

[Flagship uberalles]

3 hours ago, Counter Punch said:

You are kidding me right? 

Richie, please do explain what Kirstin was supposed to do. And please keep in mind that she stated and stipes reported that the horse would be driven with a sit.

2.51 post to post and run his last half in 53. 

Not much you can do when running time off the front like that

[globederby12]

58 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said:

Not much you can do when running time off the front like that

She could have got him a tad closer for mine.If she had judged the pace up front properly and realized they were trucking along, even allowing for the excuse of being driven for a sit, then for me she was way to far back. Driven with a sit from 100 mtrs away, dont think so.He has incredible speed , beautiful to watch, and will be a thorn in the side of many to come. Cant wait

[Counter Punch]

36 minutes ago, globederby12 said:

She could have got him a tad closer for mine.If she had judged the pace up front properly and realized they were trucking along, even allowing for the excuse of being driven for a sit, then for me she was way to far back. Driven with a sit from 100 mtrs away, dont think so.He has incredible speed , beautiful to watch, and will be a thorn in the side of many to come. Cant wait

Yes, let's get trucking early on a solid speed, work harder than any other horse in the race and leave nothing in the tank.

Too many good horses have had Cup preps ruined by gut buster runs fresh up - Mainland Banner v Flashing Red springs straight to mind.

It's a shame the unbeaten run has come to an end. But at least that pressure is now off and the focus can be on doing everything to have him at Addington in November. 

These are horses we are talking about, not machines.

Maybe I'm getting cynical, but anyone who's questioning how that horse was driven today has no understanding of limitations when it comes to horses and just how much a hard, tough run can bottom a horse. Especially at the start of a preparation. 

Let alone, fresh up with no hit outs, off a 50m when they're running time off the front like they did today.

 

[Dougie]

7 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

Yes, let's get trucking early on a solid speed, work harder than any other horse in the race and leave nothing in the tank.

Too many good horses have had Cup preps ruined by gut buster runs fresh up - Mainland Banner v Flashing Red springs straight to mind.

It's a shame the unbeaten run has come to an end. But at least that pressure is now off and the focus can be on doing everything to have him at Addington in November. 

These are horses we are talking about, not machines.

Maybe I'm getting cynical, but anyone who's questioning how that horse was driven today has no understanding of limitations when it comes to horses and just how much a hard, tough run can bottom a horse. Especially at the start of a preparation. 

Let alone, fresh up with no hit outs, off a 50m when they're running time off the front like they did today.

 

Super quick time run in this race and the trot, maybe it's just me but they never seem to be going that quick at Winton but the times always come back fast... in that trot I thought they were so tired going over the finish line and even Pickett's Ridge was but yet the last quarter was still under 30 seconds.

[the galah]

35 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

Yes, let's get trucking early on a solid speed, work harder than any other horse in the race and leave nothing in the tank.

Too many good horses have had Cup preps ruined by gut buster runs fresh up - Mainland Banner v Flashing Red springs straight to mind.

It's a shame the unbeaten run has come to an end. But at least that pressure is now off and the focus can be on doing everything to have him at Addington in November. 

These are horses we are talking about, not machines.

Maybe I'm getting cynical, but anyone who's questioning how that horse was driven today has no understanding of limitations when it comes to horses and just how much a hard, tough run can bottom a horse. Especially at the start of a preparation. 

Let alone, fresh up with no hit outs, off a 50m when they're running time off the front like they did today.

 

In other words it was poor placement. Iooked that way pre race and so it turned out.

Horse went huge after slow start but running pacers from those long marks is a risk of causing damage as you pointed out.

If you watch the early season high class races in Canterbury they often are slowly run,generally because connections don't want too hard a run early in a preparation.

Edited September 8, 2019 by the galah

[globederby12]

32 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

Yes, let's get trucking early on a solid speed, work harder than any other horse in the race and leave nothing in the tank.

Too many good horses have had Cup preps ruined by gut buster runs fresh up - Mainland Banner v Flashing Red springs straight to mind.

It's a shame the unbeaten run has come to an end. But at least that pressure is now off and the focus can be on doing everything to have him at Addington in November. 

These are horses we are talking about, not machines.

Maybe I'm getting cynical, but anyone who's questioning how that horse was driven today has no understanding of limitations when it comes to horses and just how much a hard, tough run can bottom a horse. Especially at the start of a preparation. 

Let alone, fresh up with no hit outs, off a 50m when they're running time off the front like they did today.

 

Counter, what I was alluding to was that the horse maybe being bought up to midfield and wait,and (he does look capable of sprinting twice in a race) not trying to loop the whole field from way back and get caught with having to run a 53 half to get near them( which he did on his ear)mind you. Frankly with rhis much raw speed and ability to cover the ground he would take a lot of flatteneng.Agree with Galah though, poor placement obviously but no damage down .

[hunterthepunter]

10 hours ago, globederby12 said:

Counter, what I was alluding to was that the horse maybe being bought up to midfield and wait,and (he does look capable of sprinting twice in a race) not trying to loop the whole field from way back and get caught with having to run a 53 half to get near them( which he did on his ear)mind you. Frankly with rhis much raw speed and ability to cover the ground he would take a lot of flatteneng.Agree with Galah though, poor placement obviously but no damage down .

maybe the horse is just overrated has not beat anything decent

[Furlong]

Bit of tall poppy syndrome on here I fear. Chop him down before we really know how good he is instead of enjoying the interest he is creating for the industry.

[Rangatira]

1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said:

maybe the horse is just overrated has not beat anything decent

nosed out classie brigade in the uncut gems and laz would remember cb

Edited September 8, 2019 by Rangatira