hunterthepunter Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: nosed out classie brigade in the uncut gems and laz would remember cb true but had soft run behind the leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Longshot Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 13 hours ago, globederby12 said: Counter, what I was alluding to was that the horse maybe being bought up to midfield and wait,and (he does look capable of sprinting twice in a race) not trying to loop the whole field from way back and get caught with having to run a 53 half to get near them( which he did on his ear)mind you. Frankly with rhis much raw speed and ability to cover the ground he would take a lot of flatteneng.Agree with Galah though, poor placement obviously but no damage down . You're off your head. The horse obliterated the NZ record by three seconds and ran third. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jonny Longshot said: You're off your head. The horse obliterated the NZ record by three seconds and ran third. How do you work that out? The NZ record is 2.54.2 UMC ran 2.55.7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: true but had soft run behind the leader lol you have just done a brodster and moved the goal posts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Longshot Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The time you posted is an automated time based on the winner's time and U May Cullect's handicap. If you watch the video (link below) and time from when the 2400m start point goes out of camera shot, to the time UMC hits the line, it is 2.51.7. And using sound judgement at the start you can see he was probably at least half a second behind the camera cutting off the start point. As well as that, a trusted clocker watching on course got him in 2.51.1. It was a mighty, mighty run and to criticise Kirstin in any capacity is absolutely absurd.https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=267129&Arg=hrnzg-rSite&Arg=TRUE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jonny Longshot said: The time you posted is an automated time based on the winner's time and U May Cullect's handicap. If you watch the video (link below) and time from when the 2400m start point goes out of camera shot, to the time UMC hits the line, it is 2.51.7. And using sound judgement at the start you can see he was probably at least half a second behind the camera cutting off the start point. As well as that, a trusted clocker watching on course got him in 2.51.1. It was a mighty, mighty run and to criticise Kirstin in any capacity is absolutely absurd.https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=267129&Arg=hrnzg-rSite&Arg=TRUE Fair enough but then you are comparing with the NZ record for a mobile start not a stand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Longshot Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Fair enough but then you are comparing with the NZ record for a mobile start not a stand. Fair point also and I concede that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I don't think you could expect much more from driver or horse first up in that race and he doesn't need to be going to Addington to race yet so the options for starts would be very limited. Unlike in his first prep where he was out to win (which admittedly was not too difficult) he has now a bigger target in mind so will race accordingly. No point blowing him out with his health record. She should stay on the horse for the Cup as it is her dream to be part of this too. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Jonny Longshot said: It was a mighty, mighty run and to criticise Kirstin in any capacity is absolutely absurd. Hey dont get defensive. I am the last one to "criticize " the horse. He is something else., and I ve been watching Harness for near on 60yrs .Whether he ran a world/nz record or not, is not the point if you read back far enough. He should have been closer when making his run,(providing they wanted him to win) and if you think that is a criticism of the driver then it is. Running 2.51.1 as you stated and still running 3rd would shout from the rooftops "Geeze he must have come from a long way back". As good as he looks , do that in a NZ Cup and you are toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 will it run the 3200m out??? as they will run first mile in two minutes and last mile in say 1.54 so will not want to get so far back in the running with Purdon horses will just attack attack you all the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 That was the best run for 3rd I have seen in a while. Maybe the best run for 3rd, since a horse ran 3rd in his first race in open class company (New Brighton Cup) before going out 2 months later and winning the NZ Cup by 10 lengths. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: will it run the 3200m out??? as they will run first mile in two minutes and last mile in say 1.54 so will not want to get so far back in the running with Purdon horses will just attack attack you all the way No chance UMC would get that far back in the Cup Hunter mate (excluding bad luck or breaking). Good thing is he won't be off a handicap. If UMC gets a smidgen of luck or even a lot of luck and lands the trail for the last lap/mile, he will give the field a decent shake. Exciting times as he is still learning the game. Just fingers crossed his legs hold up! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Don’t care who wins the Cup as long as it is not Purdon/Rasmussen stable. Time they let some other stable win it as it is an absolute borefest listening to the dribble before and after the cup! Hope the supporting races aren’t won by them either 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Brodie said: Don’t care who wins the Cup as long as it is not Purdon/Rasmussen stable. Time they let some other stable win it as it is an absolute borefest listening to the dribble before and after the cup! Hope the supporting races aren’t won by them either Well it will all start again in the new Brighton cup on Friday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 they average trial day superman race day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 12/09/2019 at 10:06 PM, hunterthepunter said: they average trial day superman race day opposite of trains like tarzan races like jane one of dizzys faves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlDjEd8gAkI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: opposite of trains like tarzan races like jane one of dizzys faves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlDjEd8gAkI Next you'll be playing "I'm a Barbi girl" for JJ flop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I see a few good types are popping down with their gun Canterbury trainers to raid Invercargill on Saturday. Funny thing is, they are running into each other now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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