No Excuse for the RIU to turn up! Look at their Covid-19 Subsidy!

[Murray Fish]

12 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

LOL you're kidding aren't you?  Have you ever done business in China?

what has that got to do with HK racing?

 

[Chief Stipe]

19 minutes ago, Murray Fish said:

what has that got to do with HK racing?

 

The HKJC is more a rich old boys club than a socialist entity.

[Reefton]

Typical pricks who aren't paying their own bills

 

To be fair to the greyhound people I imagine that is groundsmen, starters, catering people, maybe even their tote staff(I imagine they employ their own given how often they run though they wouldn't need many)

 

91 for the RIU and 595 for RITA is a bit of an eye opener but I would say if you looked at any government department or local authority in this country you would be horrified to see the number of staff employed,  In The Press the other day they said there were 530 staff at the Christchurch City Council on over $100000.  I wouldn't have thought they would have 530 in total let alone 530 on more than $100000.

 

The biggest stumbling block(in my opinion) to NZ recovering from this Covid 19 economic crisis will be the sheer size of the bureaucracy that has built up in publicly funded jobs (and these are classic examples).  Until someone sacks a heap (and I mean a HEAP) of them and reduces drastically the salaries of the rest the Country will never get sorted economically.

 

Based on those numbers I would estimate that RITA has claimed for 560 full time and 35 part time staff.  No wonder the game is fucked but I have been telling them that for years and nobody really listened(well nobody in a position of authority that is)

 

One would wonder what they all do but hey what do those 530 at the Christchurch City Council do?(because the blokes picking up rubbish bins or cleaning the sewers won't be on $100000).

 

I haven't been looking the chat sites a hell of a lot lately so haven't been in the loop.  I am tired of racing because I know as soon as they are back up and running they will be wanting to grab Club assets to try to get themselves solvent again(and I really am past caring).  Plus I have grave concerns for most of my clients and my own business future and accordingly have more important things to worry about.

[Freda]

Fair thinking,  Reefton.

However, those City Council staffers wouldn't include  the rubbish bin services , they'd be contractors, wouldn't they?

Edited April 18, 2020 by Freda

[Tony]

Chief Stipe has only put up the Wage Subsidy amounts. Remember none of these employees will be on the $585. Racing will still be paying probably double these amounts to top up the salaries to at least 80% although I think with the generosity of Rita and co they would be paying 100%.

It is unimaginable to think how much money is being sucked out at this time.

[Chief Stipe]

A rough back of the envelope calculation has the top 130 staff at RITA taking about $15m out over 12 weeks AFTER assuming they took a 20% pay cut and subtracting their proportion of the subsidy.

Of course the pie and sausage roll warmer being turned off has reduced overheads. 

[globederby12]

Kinda reminds me of Liverpool in the FA in England applying for Govt subsidy . Pphhhtt.

 

[Rangatira]

6 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

I thought they had 33 full-time workers.  Are their part-time workers more full-time than we thought?

That is a subsidy of over $5k per person.

looks like they are claiming for 32 "fulltime" workers

[Reefton]

3 hours ago, Freda said:

Fair thinking,  Reefton.

However, those City Council staffers wouldn't include  the rubbish bin services , they'd be contractors, wouldn't they?

Fair comment. Knew that but making a point.  The productive guys get shit all while the suits get a fortune.  Quite a parallel to the NZ racing Industry really Pam?  When lockdown is over and you're struggling in the middle of July getting up at 4 in the morning with slow horses and mud up to your knees you will know what I mean

[Freda]

39 minutes ago, Reefton said:

Fair comment. Knew that but making a point.  The productive guys get shit all while the suits get a fortune.  Quite a parallel to the NZ racing Industry really Pam?  When lockdown is over and you're struggling in the middle of July getting up at 4 in the morning with slow horses and mud up to your knees you will know what I mean

Lol....I already know that.

[Reefton]

10 minutes ago, Freda said:

Lol....I already know that.

Yeah I sort of get a feel for it when I get up to Reefton and scrub the bird shit off the grandstand seats.

[Yankiwi]

8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

 

8 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said:

 

113 employees to hand down a decision of a driving suspension of a six month for race fixing?

Something only their 113 mothers could be proud of.

http://www.jca.org.nz/non-race-day-hearings/non-raceday-inquiry-riu-v-n-r-mcgrath-decision-dated-10-february-2020-chair-hon-j-w-gendall-qc

I'm sure some other INDEPENDANT origination/s could do a far superior job for a fraction of the cost.

 

Since the RIU is in lock-down mode, surely their hi-tech drug detection lab has reverted to testing COVID-19 swabs in the interim. It's the least they could do in return for robbing the country of nearly $500k in future tax dollars.

Edited April 18, 2020 by Yankiwi

[Chief Stipe]

De Lore's analysis:

https://www.racenews.bitofayarn.com/crazy-stuff-381250-per-week-paid-to-top-135-rita-employees-and-we-have-no-racing/

$381,250 per week paid to the top 135 RITA employees!

[The Diceman's Been]

Not a good read in anyone's language and yet another example of RITA incompetence.

A very wise man once said " common sense is like deodorant. Those who need it most never use it."

 

[muzenza365]

21 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

I just cannot believe the RIU  need 92 people to make it function and maintain the Integrity of Racing and if you look at their staff employees, they have 2 more Stewards TBA,seriously?

As anyone heard of Basil Payn{betting analyst} or any reports he has done for the RIU,His employment must cease forthwith,that will be a start to prune this overladen wage tree.

Why do we need M Goober as the Head of the RIU,we have the head of Integrity, the head of Thoroughbred Stewards,the head of Harness Stewards,just make one of these the overall Head.

I truly hope the submissions before the Government now, have a submission lodged to disband this top heavy organisation and start again,as it is abundantly  clear it cannot operate in it"s current form with the crisis we face at the moment.

I do feel for the head of RITA,as in my view if he can turn the Racing Industry around,he should run the country,but with no pokie funding in the short term,how can this organisation continue?. 

 

  

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, muzenza365 said:

As anyone heard of Basil Payn{betting analyst} or any reports he has done for the RIU,His employment must cease forthwith,that will be a start to prune this overladen wage tree.

 

He had THREE cadets working for him at one stage!

[Reefton]

Should we be starting a vote of no confidence petition?  Categorized by licence holders/punters/owners/Club administrators.  Present it to the Minister once this lockdown is over with.  Strikes or boycotts as mooted in the past were all OK theoretically but it is human nature for those who see an opportunity(via others non participation) to make a quid - or it this case to win a race. Surely a vote of no confidence in the current administration could get a 75% take up at least of licence holders and Club adminstrators?  And surely the Minister (whoever it might be) would have to take notice of an overwhelming majority like that?

[muzenza365]

39 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

He had THREE cadets working for him at one stage!

Are you fu##in serious?I should send an email and ask for the amount of successful convictions he has had during his tenure.The upside is the RIU/JCA must come to the realisation that gravy train,has run out of gravy.

[Chief Stipe]

25 minutes ago, Reefton said:

Should we be starting a vote of no confidence petition?  Categorized by licence holders/punters/owners/Club administrators.  Present it to the Minister once this lockdown is over with.  Strikes or boycotts as mooted in the past were all OK theoretically but it is human nature for those who see an opportunity(via others non participation) to make a quid - or it this case to win a race. Surely a vote of no confidence in the current administration could get a 75% take up at least of licence holders and Club adminstrators?  And surely the Minister (whoever it might be) would have to take notice of an overwhelming majority like that?

All good ideas.  We should also start locally.  As you say everyone is driven by self-interest.  For example with the CJC we need to start co-ordinating members from the ground up THEN those above will start feeling the pressure.  They'll start assessing their future!

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, muzenza365 said:

Are you fu##in serious?I should send an email and ask for the amount of successful convictions he has had during his tenure.The upside is the RIU/JCA must come to the realisation that gravy train,has run out of gravy.

I'm serious I read it in their annual report.  You don't want to know what they were being paid!!!!

[Chief Stipe]

[Darbstickle44]

ļthats a ridiculous statement,  the way things are at present it will be many weeks before racing gets going,and it will not be like it was before,  if we take the attitude as stated we just as well chuck the towel in! How come Australia can race,all be it with no patrons, successfully,  surely we could have had a similar program on specific courses. As a syndicate member of several horses I'd rather have some racing than none at all,  even if I can't see my horse/s. Carry on for many weeks like we are ,and our product will be at risk of imploding.  Many small operators will be gone and no worries about shutting tracks they will have to.

[Reefton]

10 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

De Lore's analysis:

https://www.racenews.bitofayarn.com/crazy-stuff-381250-per-week-paid-to-top-135-rita-employees-and-we-have-no-racing/

$381,250 per week paid to the top 135 RITA employees!

So the subsidy  received for those 135 would be about $79k per week. Even if they are only getting 80% the industry will be stumping up $226k plus a week to keep these chaps in the manner to which they have become accustomed.  And that presumes none of them have had payrises in the last nine months.

[Shad]

On 18/04/2020 at 8:22 PM, Reefton said:

Fair comment. Knew that but making a point.  The productive guys get shit all while the suits get a fortune.  Quite a parallel to the NZ racing Industry really Pam?  When lockdown is over and you're struggling in the middle of July getting up at 4 in the morning with slow horses and mud up to your knees you will know what I mean

This sums up the situation of the country wether it be racing or any other company or business, these so called top dogs absolutely creaming it, whether they are successful or bloody hopeless, what ever happened to performance based salaries, sad state of affairs, and yep needs drastic action.

[Freda]

20 hours ago, Reefton said:

Should we be starting a vote of no confidence petition?  Categorized by licence holders/punters/owners/Club administrators.  Present it to the Minister once this lockdown is over with.  Strikes or boycotts as mooted in the past were all OK theoretically but it is human nature for those who see an opportunity(via others non participation) to make a quid - or it this case to win a race. Surely a vote of no confidence in the current administration could get a 75% take up at least of licence holders and Club adminstrators?  And surely the Minister (whoever it might be) would have to take notice of an overwhelming majority like that?

Not a bad idea,  but I reckon the apathy that has brought us to this point will still prevail.

I remember when a local livewire started a petition to get Rangiora back racing or trialling after the serious racing accident in 2006.

The number of sycophants who shook their heads and refused to sign was astounding...but nearly all have happily taken advantage of that hard work and associated fundraising efforts, and trial their horses there.