Resumption of Racing – Stakes Levels through to the end of the 2019-20 Season

[Brodie]

8 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

I see you are well indoctrinated with the 'free money' trope...off to bed...leave you with this...

'Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone. John Maynard Keynes.

FFS, you are a brainwashed socialist.

 

[curious]

[Chief Stipe]

So it's HER fault.  The woman must have some bad mojo.

[Brodie]

Curious,  seriously what has this government done over rather last 2 or more years that has been of benefit to NZ!

The minimum wage rise will put up prices and no one will be better off because workers will be laid off.

She is manipulating the followers and the fact is that she has totally overreacted now, based on what has actually occurred in NZ!!
 

There are going to be far more deaths from suicides from people who have lost their jobs, businesses and family due to the financial pressures.

A good leader is a leader who can make good decisions depending on the circumstances.

You only need to read her email to see what arrogance the lady now has!!

[curious]

34 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Curious,  seriously what has this government done over rather last 2 or more years that has been of benefit to NZ!

The minimum wage rise will put up prices and no one will be better off because workers will be laid off.

She is manipulating the followers and the fact is that she has totally overreacted now, based on what has actually occurred in NZ!!
 

There are going to be far more deaths from suicides from people who have lost their jobs, businesses and family due to the financial pressures.

A good leader is a leader who can make good decisions depending on the circumstances.

You only need to read her email to see what arrogance the lady now has!!

I'd never vote for her but she's done a pretty good job on the COVID thing I reckon and she's quite cute.

[holy ravioli]

9 hours ago, Brodie said:

Quite the opposite Holy Crap!

We are financially very comfortable thru investment, and probably subsidising your current lifestyle big time.

Baa!

One way or another you will be spending other peoples money.

The property ponzi scheme has enriched the few at the expense of the many...no doubt about that.

[holy ravioli]

8 hours ago, Brodie said:

Curious,  seriously what has this government done over rather last 2 or more years that has been of benefit to NZ!

The minimum wage rise will put up prices and no one will be better off because workers will be laid off.

She is manipulating the followers and the fact is that she has totally overreacted now, based on what has actually occurred in NZ!!
 

There are going to be far more deaths from suicides from people who have lost their jobs, businesses and family due to the financial pressures.

A good leader is a leader who can make good decisions depending on the circumstances.

You only need to read her email to see what arrogance the lady now has!!

 seriously what did the previous  government do over their last 9  years that has been of benefit to NZ!=borrow 80 billion !

'There are going to be far more deaths from suicides'=NZ's stats have been dire since Rogernomics..when did you last show any concern=never.

' who can make good decisions depending on the circumstances.'=no kidding...that must be why she made the cover of TIME.

Yes the Nats and their acolytes are unpleasantly surprised at just how competent she is...as for Bridges!!?

 

[Noodlum]

I think Holy Ravioli is a young naive Communist.  If he isn't young then he must have missed all the revolutions because based on what he has written he wouldn't have survived any.

Eh Holy - China needs you!

[holy ravioli]

8 minutes ago, Noodlum said:

I think Holy Ravioli is a young naive Communist.  If he isn't young then he must have missed all the revolutions because based on what he has written he wouldn't have survived any.

Eh Holy - China needs you!

I'd love you to educate me about Capitalism and free markets.A brief over view in your own words will suffice.Go on.

[holy ravioli]

10 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

You obviously haven't read the RNZ article on the Government document dump with its attendant advice to cabinet ministers?

Note the article does not quote any opposition politicians and was republished in its entirety by Stuff and the NZ Herald.

? I wonder if Jacinda and Grant will ask for the $50m back.

Here you go ,our ever vigilant 'concern signalling' critic!

'he government has released thousands of pages of documents around its Covid-19 decision-making processes this afternoon. The document dump includes “papers, minutes, and key advice,” the earliest dating back to the 28th of January, related to decisions made up to April 17-Spinoff.?

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, holy ravioli said:

Here you go ,our ever vigilant 'concern signalling' critic!

 

No comments on Adern's email to her Cabinet Ministers?  Or do you, as an Ardernt apparatchik, believe that the leader can sideline the Politburo anytime she wants?

[Trotsfan]

2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

No comments on Adern's email to her Cabinet Ministers?  Or do you, as an Ardernt apparatchik that the leader can sideline the Politburo anytime she wants?

my question is why release all the documents then email or ministers telling them no interviews

[holy ravioli]

4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

No comments on Adern's email to her Cabinet Ministers?  Or do you, as an Ardernt apparatchik that the leader can sideline the Politburo anytime she wants?

Standard governmental procedure...only a handful of ministers deal with situations like the Chch quakes for example.

Its efficiency that also utilises expert advisors outside Govt.

[holy ravioli]

2 minutes ago, Trotsfan said:

my question is why release all the documents then email or ministers telling them no interviews

There are M.P's like Kelvin Davis,Alfred Ngaro,David Clark,Simon Bridges who really need to keep their trap ...shut.

[Chief Stipe]

44 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

Standard governmental procedure...only a handful of ministers deal with situations like the Chch quakes for example.

Its efficiency that also utilises expert advisors outside Govt.

That's quite good for you Holy.  That's the second time this week someone has posted something that has had me rolling around the floor laughing my arse off.

You weren't being serious were you?

By the way a "handful" usually means FIVE.  This time it is ZERO i.e. Zero which is five LESS than five.

[hunterthepunter]

9 hours ago, curious said:

I'd never vote for her but she's done a pretty good job on the COVID thing I reckon and she's quite cute.

cute??? don't think so lol

[Brodie]

Chief, am I allowed to call Holy Crap an absolute Dickhead?

With people like Holy Crap having such socialist communist ideals, we have got no chance of getting out of this crap in one piece.

 

 

[Rangatira]

12 hours ago, Brodie said:

Geez Chief, we have so many sheep on here it isn’t funny, so I will have to give it a miss for awhile I think!

good idea

just stay home, do your dishlicker form, save lives

[hunterthepunter]

4 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

good idea

just stay home, do your dishlicker form, save lives

stay in the field like a good poll Dorset

[Noodlum]

8 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said:

cute??? don't think so lol

Yes but to be fair to Curious he has a stable full of fillies he thinks are "quite cute."

[Rangatira]

2 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said:

stay in the field like a good poll Dorset

i do my best work in the hedgerows 

[hunterthepunter]

3 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

i do my best work in the hedgerows 

should try your hedgerows  10km east of your last port of call

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, holy ravioli said:

Here you go ,our ever vigilant 'concern signalling' critic!

'he government has released thousands of pages of documents around its Covid-19 decision-making processes this afternoon. The document dump includes “papers, minutes, and key advice,” the earliest dating back to the 28th of January, related to decisions made up to April 17-Spinoff.?

LOL.  Holy that's the oldest trick in the book normally played by lawyers when doing disclosure.  Essentially what you do is dump everything you can find remotely related to the case and disclose it to the other side EXCEPT you "overlook" some key one's which you "find" late in the process.  "Our apologies your honour but we overlooked these documents which we hope you understand given the sheer volume of documents that we have released."  The Judge wearily nods his head knowing full well that he has pulled the same trick many times before. 

In this case the Government will have to be legally challenged to get them released.  So it isn't what WAS released its what WASN'T released.

Reminds me of a story.  I was the plaintiff in a case and my lawyer and I were going through the disclosure process.  I had all sorts of documents in a big box.  In there was a Ski ticket.  I said "I suppose we don't need this."  I explained the tenuous connection to the case.  My lawyer smiled and said "throw it in, it will puzzle them and they will waste time trying to work out what relevance it is."

Same story here.

 

[Happy Sunrise]

12 hours ago, Brodie said:

Sorry Happy, I am on the money.

When you have one person in a so-called democracy making all the decisions without consultation from any of the other ministers or caucus, then that is dictating and not democracy at all.

Even the lockdown that was enforced appears as it was illegal.

They are all scared of her, things are starting to unravel for her and whether Winston and The Greens are going to continue to accept this total control is debateable.

Happy, have you read the article about her gagging every minister and everything now has to go thru her?..

 

 

 

That article is a nothing.

Every political would do the same. You can't have people going off message in an extreme time like this.

[Happy Sunrise]

11 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Where's Winnie in all this?  He is old school Parliament and as well wouldn't take kindly by being told by Ardern to keep his mouth shut.

Exactly.

So you are creating something out of nothing. 

Do you look favourably upon Winston Peters as a politician?