Potential game changer

[Portfolio]

45 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Personally tend to agree with you Hunter  that there is more to it than passive smoking from young stable employees.

Find it hard to believe that if it was hooch smoking, then it would contaminate horses blood readings, but who knows, it does seem pretty fishy!

I suppose we find out at 4pm today. 

I believe it all, once truck driver mentioned what he thought was happening, authorities had to look into it. Not sure why some think something fishy going on?

[Guest CrossCodes]

The same old bitter Allstar haters all trying to make it out to be some sort of conspiracy or cover up make me laugh.

A simple case of a couple of employees being in contact with horses after returning a positive result to illicit drugs, they did everything right in taking precautions and letting everyone know what was going on.....

It will be business as usual for a professional stable.

[hunterthepunter]

13 minutes ago, CrossCodes said:

The same old bitter Allstar haters all trying to make it out to be some sort of conspiracy or cover up make me laugh.

A simple case of a couple of employees being in contact with horses after returning a positive result to illicit drugs, they did everything right in taking precautions and letting everyone know what was going on.....

It will be business as usual for a professional stable.

crosscodes  there are a lot of top trainers in nz over all codes so tell me why one stables horses can sit 3wide parked out and never stop running??? so what are the other trainers do wrong?? ps iam not a allstar  hatter just like every one in the racing game just wonting a level playing feild

[BitofaLegend]

40 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said:

crosscodes  there are a lot of top trainers in nz over all codes so tell me why one stables horses can sit 3wide parked out and never stop running??? so what are the other trainers do wrong?? ps iam not a allstar  hatter just like every one in the racing game just wonting a level playing feild

Their horses are just the best. Its that simple. Top class horses trained by top class trainers. How is that hard not to understand?

[Brodie]

Top trainers no doubt,  doing things differently to other trainers no doubt!!!

Edited June 1, 2018 by Brodie

[hunterthepunter]

2 minutes ago, Brodie said:

There is more to it than that, and most people know that!

 

how true brodster your on the money

[Flagship uberalles]

1 hour ago, BitofaLegend said:

Their horses are just the best. Its that simple. Top class horses trained by top class trainers. How is that hard not to understand?

Nobody is denying that they are good trainers and have the best horses money can buy, but total domination is not good for nz harness racing, which is becoming just a feeder system to the u.s and Australia. people don't want to hang on to decent horses for long if they just pick up the crumbs.... You cant blame them for having rich owners to invest in them, but we need some solution to keep promising horses racing in n.z....this years nz cup is going to be worse than last years... and that was the worst I can remember!

I'm hoping the straight out trotter doesn't end up going the same way, you can pay the big bucks for a good one, but you need a proper craftsman to have educated it first.

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Brodie said:

There is more to it than that, and most people know that!

 

Know what exactly?

[Brodie]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Know what exactly?

Different training systems.

[Newmarket]

6 hours ago, Brodie said:

Personally tend to agree with you Hunter  that there is more to it than passive smoking from young stable employees.

Find it hard to believe that if it was hooch smoking, then it would contaminate horses blood readings, but who knows, it does seem pretty fishy!

Once again, Brodie NOT on the money! 

Horses cleared to race, as most sane people thought,  just the crazy types that thought it was some sort of cover up?? 

Go the purdon team, jewels day would be ordinary without the glamour stable. 

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

Different training systems.

Exactly.  Training SYSTEMS.  Mark learnt that from Roy and has taken it to a new level.

[Happy Sunrise]

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

jewels day would be ordinary without the glamour stable. 

Was racing ordinary before the All-Stars?

I think not.

[Guest CrossCodes]

22 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said:

Was racing ordinary before the All-Stars?

I think not.

You really are bitter aren't you? Clearly you wanted this to be a big drama and for all their horses to return positives, but it hasn't happened so I suggest you build a bridge and just enjoy the good racing tomorrow.

[Brodie]

3 minutes ago, CrossCodes said:

You really are bitter aren't you? Clearly you wanted this to be a big drama and for all their horses to return positives, but it hasn't happened so I suggest you build a bridge and just enjoy the good racing tomorrow.

CrossCodes, don’t beleive that Happy is bitter at all!

It clearly has been blown out of proportion and a P R exercise to try and show that all is above board.

Do we know what the drugs were that the employees were using  or smoking?

 

[hunterthepunter]

it is p r exercise nine horses on an inter islander horse transporter nine sets harness and all the horse feed that in put in a very part of the transporter so where do you think they smoked there dope or p crosscodes???  next to the driver do you think??

[Happy Sunrise]

On 31/05/2018 at 1:27 PM, Happy Sunrise said:

It is a storm in a teacup that disappears at 4 pm today.

Yes, CrossCodes, I am very bitter. I clearly wanted the world to fall in on the All Stars judging by what I have said.  I have even agreed with you. Your choice to believe what you do. I just don't believe the All-Stars are the be all and end all of harness racing in NZ.

[BitofaLegend]

1 hour ago, CrossCodes said:

You really are bitter aren't you? Clearly you wanted this to be a big drama and for all their horses to return positives, but it hasn't happened so I suggest you build a bridge and just enjoy the good racing tomorrow.

Haters gonna hate

[Mk2_Zephyr]

the Allstars are indeed the end of Harness in NZ.

I have been to Alexandra Park twice in the last year, after a long time off, both times were absolute betting rubbish.

[Happy Sunrise]

 

6 hours ago, CrossCodes said:

A simple case of a couple of employees being in contact with horses after returning a positive result to illicit drugs, they did everything right in taking precautions and letting everyone know what was going on.....

I agree with you here too. Nothing in it. They had to cover themselves because who knows what those stablehands could have done while under the influence. 

However, I can't understand how you think I am bitter when I disagree with Newmarket over what would Jewels day would be like without the All-Stars. If there is more to it if you could furnish a reply with where my bitterness is I would be happy to respond.

[Guest CrossCodes]

Apologies then if I misconstrued your posts. 

I totally agree with your earlier post that it was all a storm in a teacup.

[globederby12]

I heard a rumour they were smoking P.

That could be completely wrong of course. 

[Newmarket]

10 hours ago, globederby12 said:

I heard a rumour they were smoking P.

That could be completely wrong of course. 

Luckily housing nz didn’t do testing, we would all be over the threshold ?

[Poisoned Dwarf]

Of course it isn't exactly logical to send such quality horses away with a pair of novices instead of a trusty, long-serving travelling foreman, is it ?

[OLDWHITEMAN]

19 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said:

Nobody is denying that they are good trainers and have the best horses money can buy, but total domination is not good for nz harness racing, which is becoming just a feeder system to the u.s and Australia. people don't want to hang on to decent horses for long if they just pick up the crumbs.... You cant blame them for having rich owners to invest in them, but we need some solution to keep promising horses racing in n.z....this years nz cup is going to be worse than last years... and that was the worst I can remember!

I'm hoping the straight out trotter doesn't end up going the same way, you can pay the big bucks for a good one, but you need a proper craftsman to have educated it first.

What a halfwit you are. Are you saying Purdon and is not a proper craftsman? Thanks that is the best laugh I shall get today. Have you been smoking the same stuff that the two Aussie All Star employees that featured in the news early this week? Purdon is a top square gaiter trainer. Have you forgotten about a horse called Icandoosit? He was one of the best trotters in the past decade or two.

[Flagship uberalles]

15 minutes ago, OLDWHITEMAN said:

What a halfwit you are. Are you saying Purdon and is not a proper craftsman? Thanks that is the best laugh I shall get today. Have you been smoking the same stuff that the two Aussie All Star employees that featured in the news early this week? Purdon is a top square gaiter trainer. Have you forgotten about a horse called Icandoosit? He was one of the best trotters in the past decade or two.

 Thanks for your reply "sad and lonely old white man" i think you'll find G Payne had a lot to do with the education of I can doosit......no need to be abusive we are all entitled to an opinion...