Chief Stipe Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Freda said: My observation was - as I said above - mouthwatering. And I was looking at pedigrees, as I assume was the Chief, and wishing that I had access to some quality bloodstock like those. Not implying anything about their relative ability, whether the crop is strong or otherwise, just the pleasure to be had by handling SOMETHING that might have a future, and not a well-tried-and-found-wanting model from somewhere else. Given that it is unlikely that any of these two year olds will back up in 6 days what will the Grp2 Eclipse Stakes field on New Year's Day look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Your estimate? I can see at least 9. Yeahh you'd think at least half should break maiden ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Karaka Sales figures for each. Follow Your Dreams $24,000 Palamos $85,000 Sophisticardo $35,000 King of Reds $20,000 Sneaky Shark $165,000 Bergheim $30,000 Coyote $26,000 Burgundy Dancer $8,000 Berbizier $32,000 Miss Ipenema $20,000 Beldarra $115,000 Lady Pristina $80,000 Dragons Kiss $150,000 Seven Twenty $14,000 The Night King $100,000 The Charging $45,000 Molinara $100,000 Why worry about those cheap horses, there is one in at NP on Tuesday that cost $500k that's racing for a cool $10k (well 5k really but you get my drift) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, Huey said: Why worry about those cheap horses, there is one in at NP on Tuesday that cost $500k that's racing for a cool $10k (well 5k really but you get my drift) Which one is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Which one is that? No. 7 - Titled I think you might have been the underbidder on it .? ;0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Huey said: No. 7 - Titled I think you might have been the underbidder on it .? ;0 Exceed and Excel : Tricia'o $500,000 GE Harding. A half brother to Karpool Khan which sold for $700,000 and has won $39,000 to date. From the same family as La Sizeranne...... dam line left Grosvenor. A half by Snitzel in this years Book 1 at Karaka. I guess they will be hoping for Titled to show some form! No I underbid on another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Only 4 winners is a reflection of the paucity of 2yo races so far , they also started a month later than usual . There will be a rush of 2yo races now to give horses a chance to qualify for the big show . Hopefully not too many are rushed to try and qualify and get broken by the experience . Then the black type 2yo races come in a rush , New Plymouth , the G1's at Auckland then Palmerston . Another part of the calendar that needs to be looked at IMO . I also see that Te Akau have 7 of the top 9 in betting for the 2yo million race , i think they're a good chance of taking out it out again , perhaps . It would be nice to see a real battler with a cheap horse win it , give the rest of us battlers hope . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, curious said: Yeahh you'd think at least half should break maiden ranks. So, the race is basically a decent maiden special weight. For 50k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, curious said: So, the race is basically a decent maiden special weight. For 50k? Well you can't have owners who buy expensive hyped up yearlings at the sales racing for the same money as the rest of us peasants can you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, nomates said: Only 4 winners is a reflection of the paucity of 2yo races so far , they also started a month later than usual . There will be a rush of 2yo races now to give horses a chance to qualify for the big show . Hopefully not too many are rushed to try and qualify and get broken by the experience . Then the black type 2yo races come in a rush , New Plymouth , the G1's at Auckland then Palmerston . Another part of the calendar that needs to be looked at IMO . I also see that Te Akau have 7 of the top 9 in betting for the 2yo million race , i think they're a good chance of taking out it out again , perhaps . It would be nice to see a real battler with a cheap horse win it , give the rest of us battlers hope . Strip away the hype & BS from that race & its always quite ordinary,made even worse by the fact you have one stable completely dominate every aspect of it , I find it sad that it belittles our G1 races for 2yos & the 2yo pattern in general. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, curious said: So, the race is basically a decent maiden special weight. For 50k? Increasingly the cynic. Should be easy pickings down in the CD with the fields dropping right off. Are you ready for them yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, Huey said: Strip away the hype & BS from that race & its always quite ordinary,made even worse by the fact you have one stable completely dominate every aspect of it , I find it sad that it belittles our G1 races for 2yos & the 2yo pattern in general. And distorts the sires table/premiership Huey, as it's a restricted race the prizemoney SHOULD not be included in the leading sires tabulation.....end of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 hours ago, nomates said: I also see that Te Akau have 7 of the top 9 in betting for the 2yo million race , i think they're a good chance of taking out it out again , perhaps . It would be nice to see a real battler with a cheap horse win it , give the rest of us battlers hope . Good luck to them going for 5 in a row. They target the race and seem to keep their horses sound. Interesting that the top qualifier at the moment they are training for Chris Rutten. Good judge that man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 59 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: And distorts the sires table/premiership Huey, as it's a restricted race the prizemoney SHOULD not be included in the leading sires tabulation.....end of. The prizemoney should at best be the prizemoney, not the sweepstake component. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Good luck to them going for 5 in a row. They target the race and seem to keep their horses sound. Interesting that the top qualifier at the moment they are training for Chris Rutten. Good judge that man. I think if you go back and look you'll find a lot of the 2yo's they have aimed for it haven't gone on afterwards . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 Well the word out of the Waikato is that no one needs to bother. Khufu the American Pharaoh colt is too good for anything. Needs to get a curry on. Hasn't won a race yet. Check out its trial on the AWT on Tuesday 22nd at Cambridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesio Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I really cant understand why we have listed and group 2yr old races before Xmas.....utter waste of money. We even have a black type 2yr old race before Australia do, go figure. Why do we keep rolling out the same programme.....to suit a couple of stables and that’s about it maybe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Tesio said: We even have a black type 2yr old race before Australia do, go figure Do you mean the Welcome Stakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesio Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Do you mean the Welcome Stakes? Yep.....i dont think Aus have black type before that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Tesio said: Yep.....i dont think Aus have black type before that Well it is traditional. Remember when the Kiwi breed was tough. Derby at Christmas now Easter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesio Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I was wrong, should have checked my facts first, Aus have listed in Oct for 2yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesio Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Well it is traditional. Remember when the Kiwi breed was tough. Derby at Christmas now Easter! The good old days......also back when our best mares were not sold offshore and our stallion ranks were top rate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The Wellesley looks an interesting race this week with Titled , Ansu and the TA horse all lining up. I thought both Titled and Ansu were impressive at their first starts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Huey said: The Wellesley looks an interesting race this week with Titled , Ansu and the TA horse all lining up. I thought both Titled and Ansu were impressive at their first starts. Wouldn't mind a leg of Jonnos horse as a 3yo . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 14, 2021 Author Share Posted January 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Huey said: The Wellesley looks an interesting race this week with Titled , Ansu and the TA horse all lining up. I thought both Titled and Ansu were impressive at their first starts. I just commented in another thread that I dont think it is what it could be due to the proximity of the Karaka Million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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