Newmarket Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Portfolio said: Well, just had my weekly glance on shitcafe, I can say nothing has changed, apart from a couple of more new posters that really don’t exsists. No, I tell a lie, something has changed. P4P is now a gentle, loving almost human like poster, while scoobs is now an aggressive arshole, by the way, we are all wankers here too? Wankers hey, oh well at least your thinking of us all, a little creepy but that is scoobs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) I have got absolutely no idea who the hell Scoobie is? However, he acts like a little child! He is continually wanking on about the posters that have left his site, by belittling them, with no right of reply to his childish posts, as he has deleted the right to reply to his shit. I personally wouldn’t waste my time, but FFS Scoobie, move on, you are making yourself look more like a DICKHEAD the more you write. Face it you are now in charge of a site that is losing its appeal, due to your shite and your offsiders pathetic posts! I know you will continue to belittle the posters that have left your site, because that is obviously your mentality of having to abuse people for no reason. If Fart Too Much and Scoobie Continue to post about Brodie and others on here I will take it further! ! End of storey Edited June 24, 2018 by Brodie 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) To be honest, I'd just let them go for it..................and ignore them. One of the main reasons this site got going and has established such a strong foothold after only just under 3 months(which is phenomenal against an established market leader), is the toxicity, unprofessionalism and immaturity that existed on RC. They don't seem to have learnt that, and seem incapable of moving on, so that is all to the benefit of BOAY Edited June 24, 2018 by hesi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Noodlum said: Who is he referring to? I'm still posting on the other site. I use a different name of course. Seems all a little unhinged. Anyway those reading this site already know it isn't blood doping. The thing I don't get is if it isn't performance enhancing why post on facebook the success of the stables that are using it? If it is theraputic then do the stables that use it have a lot of stressed out horses? If it is used as a preventative does that mean those that use it can work their horses harder? It seems to be an expensive treatment if it is used regularly. How long does the "treated" or "processed" blood last for in the fridge? It seems you can only use the processed product on the horse that the original blood came from. I have heard that there is a drug being mixed in the serum cannot be dected after 3 hours and makes mares look like males 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Blood doping in my younger days used to mean taking a certain amount of blood from a horse, letting natural processes replace that , and then injecting the blood taken back into the said animal. Extra oxygen carrying blood meaning stamina, however limited. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, globederby12 said: Blood doping in my younger days used to mean taking a certain amount of blood from a horse, letting natural processes replace that , and then injecting the blood taken back into the said animal. Extra oxygen carrying blood meaning stamina, however limited. Old mate of mine was telling me something similar recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 These 20 to 30 horse trainers must have a lot of horses that need therapeutic help as all the horses are getting this same treatment. At at least $1000 per time I would not think the owners of the horses would be that happy paying if they were being told that it wasn’t improving the performance of their horse! I believe that the trainers tha are using this technology should be disclosing this to the RIU! Yes it is currently legal but it is clearly more than just a therapeutic technology when every horse in a stable is getting it! Cannabis is currently illegal but many people want it to become legal! Doesnt mean that it should become legal though does it? If this is being used and is legal then why not divulge who these 20 or 30 trainers are that are using this system? Is it 20 or is it 30 surely they can be more accurate than that, and how many are actually harness trainers? Is it such a wonder technology just like Blue Magic that can improve a horses performance so dramatically, as per the ACS website???? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 According to the website it isn't a thousand dollars a time. A little bit less but 50 doses from 400ml of blood taken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 6 hours ago, globederby12 said: Blood doping in my younger days used to mean taking a certain amount of blood from a horse, letting natural processes replace that , and then injecting the blood taken back into the said animal. Extra oxygen carrying blood meaning stamina, however limited. You might recall the controversy over Lasse Viren and Pekka Vasala the 2 Finnish runners doing exactly the same thing back in the 70's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 What amuses me is that we are discussing the obvious. Anyone who thinks that trainers/owners/vets, don,t want to explore any possibility of making a nag run quicker or recover quicker has.their head far up their arse. It happens boyos and I would hazard a guess it is very common practice within the laws as they stand. Pushing the advantage line .looking for an edge, quickening up processes, etc. The chemists get better and technology has opened up new ways to beat the existing guidelines, From a pure physiological point of view, I know humanly speaking what we used to do to our bodys in my "body building "days, not always legal but out of the system when it mattered. Unfortunately there are lingering side effects from that and it is that which worries me as to many horses welfare in the long run. . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) On 24/06/2018 at 3:36 PM, Brodie said: I have got absolutely no idea who the hell Scoobie is? However, he acts like a little child! He is continually wanking on about the posters that have left his site, by belittling them, with no right of reply to his childish posts, as he has deleted the right to reply to his shit. I personally wouldn’t waste my time, but FFS Scoobie, move on, you are making yourself look more like a DICKHEAD the more you write. Face it you are now in charge of a site that is losing its appeal, due to your shite and your offsiders pathetic posts! I know you will continue to belittle the posters that have left your site, because that is obviously your mentality of having to abuse people for no reason. If Fart Too Much and Scoobie Continue to post about Brodie and others on here I will take it further! ! End of storey Quote i noticed scooby doos post he has done 10 times more than anyone else in the sport that is very childish no person would state that on any website if they were an intelligent business person Edited June 25, 2018 by wally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, wally said: What the hell has this got to do with Blood Doping. Move this to the Vent. Racecafe for me is a dead duck, and for others as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, globederby12 said: What the hell has this got to do with Blood Doping. Move this to the Vent. Racecafe for me is a dead duck, and for others as well. Agree, Globe what’s the plan for your trotter? No doubt cup week will be the plan, or maybe Aussie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, globederby12 said: What the hell has this got to do with Blood Doping. 10 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Globe what’s the plan for your trotter? No doubt cup week will be the plan, or maybe Aussie? I hope you are not suggesting Globe takes his horse to Equine Blood Solutions a week out from Cup Day? ? I think it will be cheaper if Globe just keeps having his beer transfusions on race day.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 We have a few youngsters coming through. One Quaker Jet/ Juliana youngster that looks extremely capable. Majestic Man will be at the Cup meeting I hope. With antibiotics in him he was never going to be a Jewels contender, after being kicked on T Herlihys property before hand. Dark Horse is out with a torn ligament and recovering. Gutting that one, she is our speed machine. Just keep a watch out for our Seafield/Griffens syndicate horses . And Father Christmas has compiled a decent record in Aussie at Brent Lillys place. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: I think it will be cheaper if Globe just keeps having his beer transfusions on race day.... Dont drink Beer, I moved upwards some time ago to wine. And our syndicates have many people in them, very passionate, of which I am just a small player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 RIU have responded, this has been posted on Facebook . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 A very good reply. So there is nothing in it. Just one follow question that somebody might be able to answer. If it is primarily therapeutic then why bother requesting a ban of at least one day before. What difference would it make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: A very good reply. So there is nothing in it. Just one follow question that somebody might be able to answer. If it is primarily therapeutic then why bother requesting a ban of at least one day before. What difference would it make? Good question. Close to a grand for something therapeutic?. I like the definition of PRIMARILY ?. Sums it up nicely, go the vets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: A very good reply. So there is nothing in it. Just one follow question that somebody might be able to answer. If it is primarily therapeutic then why bother requesting a ban of at least one day before. What difference would it make? should be banned have heard something is being mixed with blood and injected back in to horses in one stable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: should be banned have heard something is being mixed with blood and injected back in to horses in one stable Of course it needs to be banned. It clearly is not a natural medicine for therapeutic purposes at all. If it is so therapeutic and nothing untoward with it, why doesn’t the company advertise who is using it! Why don’t they because they know it is giving their horses an unfair advantage with what is being done. Is it 20 or 30 trainers using it, 50% difference seems a big margin of error! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Brodie said: It clearly is not a natural medicine for therapeutic purposes at all. But the reply disagrees. The vets disagree with you. 10 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: should be banned have heard something is being mixed with blood and injected back in to horses in one stable And George Bush claimed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction..... Again, the reply states they have checked it all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Primarily Therapeutic???????????? So what are the benefits other than PRIMARY???????? Very fishy I can smell it from here! Why do all the horses need this therapeutic treatment, of course it is improving the performance of the horses or they wouldn’t be doing it at such an expense for all the owners. Why is it not banned when it is clearly making it an uneven playing field??? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, Brodie said: Primarily Therapeutic???????????? So what are the benefits other than PRIMARY???????? Very fishy I can smell it from here! Why do all the horses need this therapeutic treatment, of course it is improving the performance of the horses or they wouldn’t be doing it at such an expense for all the owners. Why is it not banned when it is clearly making it an uneven playing field??? good answer brodie should be banned whats being added to blood is a worry and being masked is the worry plus I no riu blood tested a hell of a lot of horses last week that are spelling for the winter looking for long acting drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) On 24/06/2018 at 5:36 PM, Brodie said: I have got absolutely no idea who the hell Scoobie is? However, he acts like a little child! He is continually wanking on about the posters that have left his site, by belittling them, with no right of reply to his childish posts, as he has deleted the right to reply to his shit. I personally wouldn’t waste my time, but FFS Scoobie, move on, you are making yourself look more like a DICKHEAD the more you write. Face it you are now in charge of a site that is losing its appeal, due to your shite and your offsiders pathetic posts! I know you will continue to belittle the posters that have left your site, because that is obviously your mentality of having to abuse people for no reason. If Fart Too Much and Scoobie Continue to post about Brodie and others on here I will take it further! ! End of storey this will be him brodie https://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?id=107985 Edited June 28, 2018 by Rangatira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.