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3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yes ALL LIVES MATTER but some more than others. 

not true Chief . All lives old or young, Governments are elected to 'LOOK AFTER' .not just some.

road toll are 'accidents' , not under government control, road SAFETY is paramount and being worked on everyday by your government. TO SAVE ALL LIVES. not just some.

sorry about your mum, mine passed in her 50's from some nasty lung thing too. a horrid death, (as are most deaths I guess) yes that Dementia is an awful thing too. The family toll is extroadinary on those around them too. very sad.

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8 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

so you know more than this epidemiologist do you?

We don't know who "this epidemiologist" is.  What is his name?  Just like any profession there are good and bad.  There is good science and bad science.  I was trained to be a scientist and I have been appalled at the lack of good science and evidenced based research being produced in NZ.  Baker, Wilson, Wills, Hendy I hope will eventually be called to account.

11 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

Leaders of other countries were criticized for not acting early enough, ours is criticized for acting too early,

 NZ did NOT act early.  That is a myth perpetrated by Government spin aka propaganda.  Regardless when they did act they did the wrong thing.  Why did they abandon decades of research and pandemic planning?  

13 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

If business before death of human lives is your preference, then so be it, For some, people are more important money. 

A statement like that is normally made by someone who either doesn't have to worry about money i.e. has more than enough or by a socialist who believes that it doesn't matter what they do as an individual the Government will provide.  The statement is glib and naive.  

What you fail to understand is that the path taken by the NZ Government has increased poverty now and in the future.  What they have done is sold the country down the river for short term gain.  All totally unnecessary.    

 

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17 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

at least our 'Horrid government's' did something to prepare the nation for that event a little, and didn't sit back like UK and watch so many die with this current outbreak.

The UK's NHS is a basket case and has been for 15 years.  That is why there has been a NHS "in crisis".  Every winter they have had a "crisis".  

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22 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

so you know more than this epidemiologist do you?  Leaders of other countries were criticized for not acting early enough, ours is criticized for acting too early,

If business before death of human lives is your preference, then so be it, For some, people are more important money. 

Oh Diddums

Spoken like a true woke leftie with a self entitlement list of government handouts in your right pocket.

Epidemiologists are 100% correct all the time are they ? No they are not and people like you who hang on their every word are sadly lacking in any sort of balanced judgement. 

That whiplash smile is possibly a result of too much masturbation. Get help.

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2 hours ago, Brodie said:

 

Many months after the South Island has had not a single case in the community, we still have so many Dickheads scanning barcodes so they can be tracked doWn!

 

 

 

Are they Dickheads?  Abit rich coming from someone who wont hand over ID for a $1000 cause he is so paranoid that Jacinda and the AML act are trying to control him.

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6 minutes ago, KickintheKods said:

Oh Diddums

Spoken like a true woke leftie with a self entitlement list of government handouts in your right pocket.

Epidemiologists are 100% correct all the time are they ? No they are not and people like you who hang on their every word are sadly lacking in any sort of balanced judgement. 

That whiplash smile is possibly a result of too much masturbation. Get help.

Brilliant balanced post, are geoscientists?  Doctors?  Politicians?

 Maybe the chief is the bad scientist here since hes  doing this and not illuminating to the majority of the rest of the world that what their governments and scientists and medical officers is doing is wrong.

No need for vaccines then, Chief Scientist will explain why and save the world millions of dollars.

How is masturbation relevant? Just like you its not Fucktard! 

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31 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

not true Chief . All lives old or young, Governments are elected to 'LOOK AFTER' .not just some.

They why don't they ban cars?  Ban alcohol?

Who would you rather have looking after YOUR life - the Government or yourself?

32 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

road toll are 'accidents' , not under government control, road SAFETY is paramount and being worked on everyday by your government. TO SAVE ALL LIVES. not just some.

Covid-19 infection is not under Government control either.  It is a virus!  You can't put a lasso on it and rein it in!  

However what you say about the Government working on road safety is wrong.  Why don't they make the speed limit 50km/h everywhere?  Do you know why?  It would save lives but drive the economy to its knees.  Governments have to make tradeoffs.

36 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

sorry about your mum, mine passed in her 50's from some nasty lung thing too.

I wasn't asking for sympathy.  The point is we have a selfish generation that is willing to mortgage their children's wealth and health to add a few more years or even months to the end of their own lives.  

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5 minutes ago, KickintheKods said:

Well, you have certainly proven that there is a need for daily medication. 

What's your dose?

If you voted for National then get over it, they cant even run their party let alone come up with a better alternative, The majority of Kiwis voted for Labour, if you dont like it move to Sweden or the UK.

Better still go drink some bleach Fucktard!

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17 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

 Maybe the chief is the bad scientist here since hes  doing this and not illuminating to the majority of the rest of the world that what their governments and scientists and medical officers is doing is wrong.

 

Name the epidemiologist you keep referencing.

What do you mean by "the majority of the rest of the world"?  Sweden did it differently and got a better result.  Florida did it differently as did South Dakota.

 

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19 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

No need for vaccines then, Chief Scientist will explain why and save the world millions of dollars.

What you haven't been told or don't understand is that vaccines don't stop you from being infectious nor are they 100% effective.  Certainly getting a mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infection would be a better strategy for those under the age of 65 than getting a vaccination.

 

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Just now, Chief Stipe said:

Name the epidemiologist you keep referencing.

What do you mean by "the majority of the rest of the world"?  Sweden did it differently and got a better result.  Florida did it differently as did South Dakota.

 

I did not jot his name down anticipating that you would be jumping out of your skin to discredit him.

Needless to say he is an epidemiologist and you are not, you can train to be a police officer and fail, doesnt mean you can arrest people, can train to be a doctor and fail, you cant treat people!

Lets at least listen to those who are qualified and I dont mean brodie cause they obviously put in more time than you!

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Just now, KickintheKods said:

And what exactly is your Jacinda qualified at.

Take your time, I'd hate you to miss anything.

Primeminister`s  dont need to be qualified they are voted in by these things called elections where people vote for who they consider to be the best to run the country,

I cant help it if the majority of NZ doesnt agree with you Fucktard!

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7 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

I did not jot his name down anticipating that you would be jumping out of your skin to discredit him.

So we have no way of working out the veracity of his research.  Sorry you quotes mean nothing if you are quoting an unnamed source.

9 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

Needless to say he is an epidemiologist and you are not, you can train to be a police officer and fail, doesnt mean you can arrest people, can train to be a doctor and fail, you cant treat people!

What does what I'm qualified in have to do with it?  Evidence based science and the methodology that supports it is the same for all sciences.

I don't get the rest of your analogy.

Siouxie Wills says she is an epidemiologist but in fact she is a microbiologist.

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4 minutes ago, KickintheKods said:

And what exactly is your Jacinda qualified at.

Take your time, I'd hate you to miss anything.

And what exactly was John Key qualified at apart from being a greedy market trader, sold assets, watched the housing crisis unfold, widened the gap between rich and poor,  poverty and the young and youth suicide, and healthy homes have all been a priority for this govt.

 

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12 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

Lets at least listen to those who are qualified and I dont mean brodie cause they obviously put in more time than you!

Would you believe me if I told you that one of the co-researchers that developed and advised the Government regarding the Covid-19 pandemic management strategy was a medical doctor with no experience in epidemiology and was a convicted paedophile would you believe me?

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1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

So we have no way of working out the veracity of his research.  Sorry you quotes mean nothing if you are quoting an unnamed source.

What does what I'm qualified in have to do with it?  Evidence based science and the methodology that supports it is the same for all sciences.

I don't get the rest of your analogy.

Siouxie Wills says she is an epidemiologist but in fact she is a microbiologist.

I didnt realise that BOAY required APA referencing on a chat forum!

You are the one who bought up your training as a scientist, why?

6 minutes ago, KickintheKods said:

So she's not qualified at anything.

and judith is a lawyer, they are so trustworthy!

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3 minutes ago, whiplash smile said:

widened the gap between rich and poor,  poverty and the young and youth suicide,

Which this Government has made worse even before Covid-19 but there subsequent actions during Covid-19 have made it worse by magnitudes.  Tell me how did giving a $100m handout to racing help these things?  $30m to build three AWT's for the Thoroughbred code.

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