Good old Forbury

[Ludwig]

Lead article in today's ODT, the attempt on Tuesday night to unseat the chair and two committee members from the Forbury Park. Nothing like a good internal bun fight to distract from the real issues of a new Forbury racing centre. I see the idea of a new joint synthetic track at Wingatui has entered discussions. Clearly there is disunity in the ranks.

 

[Ludwig]

There's clearly something going on in the South. Not only the Forbury committee at odds, but the mayor of Invercargill and his deputy are not talking again!!!! And as for the new hospital... already behind schedule, over budget, and they can't agree on bed numbers or the services to be provided.

Let's hope we can still remember how to organise a booze up in the Speights  brewery.

[the galah]

You've got to love the racing down there though. Race 1 a triumph for fiona baigent whose 8yo wins at its 51st start. its trained at templeton,so that would be a 5 hour float trip,which i see its made many times,having started 12 times on the track.

Those maiden trots at forbury are some  of the best betting races punters can target. In that first race you had a $2 favorite by peak. We know nearly all peaks,with the rare exception,break 90% of the time,and that hot favorite had broken in all its recent trials at the start.

I didn't back the winner ,but the multiples paid very well. I hope forbury continue to race somewhere next season,as those races are the ones punters who do their form should target when investing.

[mikeynz]

2 hours ago, Ludwig said:

Lead article in today's ODT, the attempt on Tuesday night to unseat the chair and two committee members from the Forbury Park. Nothing like a good internal bun fight to distract from the real issues of a new Forbury racing centre. I see the idea of a new joint synthetic track at Wingatui has entered discussions. Clearly there is disunity in the ranks.

 

I think you find when things ain't going well,everybody probably blames others,I wonder if they are looking at a synthetic track for gallops and harness,if Forbury do shift to Wingatui to race anymore than the odd meeting they would need an all weather,but it seems there is no guarantee t.hat the harness big shots will support anything.

just  watched that trot with rank outsiders coming in but I struggle to see how that horse with the long name was such a short favourite,it had no form.

[the galah]

3 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

 

just  watched that trot with rank outsiders coming in but I struggle to see how that horse with the long name was such a short favourite,it had no form.

That horse that just won and paid $122 actually went o.k.last start. Its a horse that has never trotted evenly in the last 400m,but with a new trainer it trotted rarely nicely up the straight in its last start.Its always looked like it could win another 3 or 4 races if they could get it to trot evenly. I had it in the 4 i boxed,but only backed it for a place. It was only paying about $60 a couple of minutes prior to the start,so it was a bit of surprise it paid that much.

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

You've got to love the racing down there though. Race 1 a triumph for fiona baigent whose 8yo wins at its 51st start. its trained at templeton,so that would be a 5 hour float trip,which i see its made many times,having started 12 times on the track.

Those maiden trots at forbury are some  of the best betting races punters can target. In that first race you had a $2 favorite by peak. We know nearly all peaks,with the rare exception,break 90% of the time,and that hot favorite had broken in all its recent trials at the start.

I didn't back the winner ,but the multiples paid very well. I hope forbury continue to race somewhere next season,as those races are the ones punters who do their form should target when investing.

Galah, you are on the money!

These types of fields are where the money is, kf you can het enough on!

Shame Forbury is closing, and not too sure about racing out at Wingatui?

This weeks 2 meetings at Addington fields are not too bad either for punting, leaves last weeks for dead!

Edited May 27, 2021 by Brodie

[Ludwig]

34 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Galah, you are on the money!

These types of fields are where the money is, kf you can het enough on!

Shame Forbury is closing, and not too sure about racing out at Wingatui?

This weeks 2 meetings at Addington fields are not too bad either for punting, leaves last weeks for dead!

I think it's great to see all sorts of trainers and owners winning at long odds. Let's hope they got some. It's good honest grassroots racing, and not this so called glamour stuff where certain stables dominate.

[the galah]

Its entertaining to watch some of the driving as well. That last race you had maudachy seemingly over racing while parked,yet she didn't move forward,and you could see john morrison was going to push her out at the 1000m if she didn't go forward,but she wasn't awake to it . It makes a big difference on some of these smaller tracks who drives them.

[mikeynz]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

Galah, you are on the money!

These types of fields are where the money is, kf you can het enough on!

Shame Forbury is closing, and not too sure about racing out at Wingatui?

This weeks 2 meetings at Addington fields are not too bad either for punting, leaves last weeks for dead!

I guess if they did move to Wingatui and did have a AWT you would think that Sunday meetings would be  order of the day,initially Sunday racing was for country clubs, I think Wingatui would be classed in that category,for some strange reason running Sunday meetings  at Addington seems  to be the norm now ,they have their time in the limelights on Fridays,leave the Sundays for others.

Just to add,Alexy runs in the last shortly,O'Connell drives the horse, what are the odds,he is a Forbury specialist but he usually spaces his win to about 35 races  so maybe not,we will see.

Edited May 27, 2021 by mikeynz

[paleface adios]

7 minutes ago, the galah said:

Its entertaining to watch some of the driving as well. That last race you had maudachy seemingly over racing while parked,yet she didn't move forward,and you could see john morrison was going to push her out at the 1000m if she didn't go forward,but she wasn't awake to it . It makes a big difference on some of these smaller tracks who drives them.

she won 2 races tonight  

[Ludwig]

7 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

I guess if they did move to Wingatui and did have a AWT you would think that Sunday meetings would be  order of the day,initially Sunday racing was for country clubs, I think Wingatui would be classed in that category,for some strange reason running Sunday meetings  at Addington seems  to be the norm now ,they have their time in the limelights on Fridays,leave the Sundays for others.

Just to add,Alexy runs in the last shortly,O'Connell drives the horse, what are the odds,he is a Forbury specialist but he usually spaces his win to about 35 races  so maybe not,we will see.

Rereading the article in the ODT, I think the major stumbling block  to progress maybe HRNZ, who are remaining silent on what happens to the funds from the future sale of Forbury.

That concerns me greatly as I would have thought the locals would have it set in concrete that all sale proceeds remain local and are invested accordingly. Because we all trust HRNZ to do the right thing for the region's.!!!!

[the galah]

19 minutes ago, paleface adios said:

she won 2 races tonight  

I know. She goes well if shes in front,a bit like her sister. No doubting they both drive  there share of winners,and horses do run for them. But if you watch that trotting race i refer to,you could see well before it happened J Morrison would push her out,but she didn't seem awake to that  move coming. 

[mikeynz]

27 minutes ago, Ludwig said:

Rereading the article in the ODT, I think the major stumbling block  to progress maybe HRNZ, who are remaining silent on what happens to the funds from the future sale of Forbury.

That concerns me greatly as I would have thought the locals would have it set in concrete that all sale proceeds remain local and are invested accordingly. Because we all trust HRNZ to do the right thing for the region's.!!!!

Judging by some of the ideas by hrnz about this time last year it would be of concern.

Would have been hard shifting Forbury to Wyndham coz it would have been gone too.

Edited May 27, 2021 by mikeynz

[Newmarket]

What has happened to that track. Nothing came from the back, except that huge odds winner. Even horses fading from trail? Have they put drawing pins on track

[Davis]

13 hours ago, the galah said:

That horse that just won and paid $122 actually went o.k.last start. Its a horse that has never trotted evenly in the last 400m,but with a new trainer it trotted rarely nicely up the straight in its last start.Its always looked like it could win another 3 or 4 races if they could get it to trot evenly. I had it in the 4 i boxed,but only backed it for a place. It was only paying about $60 a couple of minutes prior to the start,so it was a bit of surprise it paid that much.

Well spotted mate. 

[Davis]

12 hours ago, Brodie said:

Galah, you are on the money!

These types of fields are where the money is, kf you can het enough on!

Shame Forbury is closing, and not too sure about racing out at Wingatui?

This weeks 2 meetings at Addington fields are not too bad either for punting, leaves last weeks for dead!

I agree mate. I have another bonus bet, so looking for something at Addington. I have a few sorted, but price will be a factor.

[Davis]

2 hours ago, Newmarket said:

What has happened to that track. Nothing came from the back, except that huge odds winner. Even horses fading from trail? Have they put drawing pins on track

I think it's just the nature of the fields mate. You get the slow, unfit runners, usually badly driven by owner/trainer, versus the fit runners in House stable etc driven by capable drivers Orange, Sarah O'Reilly and B. Barclay. Many horses stopping a long way from home doesn't help if you are stuck behind them and that happened in a few of the races I watched. You have to be handy to the pace. It was a good run from the Shirley trotter to come from behind but it was helped by breakers in the straight.

[Newmarket]

I know that many that live in Dunedin will miss Forbury. But to the punters living elsewhere, it is not much of a loss. The class of fields that race there recently have been terrible. To think once they had open class pacers and trotters racing there, nowadays it’s a disgrace. Also had big 4yo race, now just low class nags, mainly raced by hobby trainers and drivers, 

[mikeynz]

When the better horses stopped racing the slow slide downhill started,more average meetings,and no major meetings,what the future is in the region is anybody's guess.

Harness racing is running a lot of average meetings,Rangiora racing for 7000 stakes 2 Sundays recently,and a diet  of same old same old,sometimes quantity needs to be replaced with quality,yet the TAB and the harness leaders claim things are going well,are they really?

Interesting you hear the chat about poor crowds for the super rugby games on at present,well can anybody work out why?

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, mikeynz said:

When the better horses stopped racing the slow slide downhill started,more average meetings,and no major meetings,what the future is in the region is anybody's guess.

Harness racing is running a lot of average meetings,Rangiora racing for 7000 stakes 2 Sundays recently,and a diet  of same old same old,sometimes quantity needs to be replaced with quality,yet the TAB and the harness leaders claim things are going well,are they really?

Interesting you hear the chat about poor crowds for the super rugby games on at present,well can anybody work out why?

The hobby trainers in Dunedin will probably give it away without Forbury meetings!

You are deluded if you believe the tripe of increasing turnover of harness racing. And that things are looking good.

As I have said previously, we can all look forward to increasing stakes then?

Jewell day stakes reduced by $50k per race, why is this with all this profit from increased turnover?

There is buggerall new harness punters coming thru that the TAB needs.

Current punters used to have the attraction of watching racing oncourse, but nowadays it is next to no punters there generally.

Other punters that would help turnover significantly are not allowed to punt due to pathetic wagering limits?

Flawed business plan and I stated it will come back to haunt the TAB in several ways for harness racing!

 

 

Edited May 29, 2021 by Brodie

[Rangatira]

23 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Jewell day stakes reduced by $50k per race, why is this with all this profit from increased turnover?

lies !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mikeynz]

I know we tend to go over and over at times,anybody want to see how far rugby has progressed go on you tube and see what those Ranfurly shield and touring team matches produced in hype and enthusiasm in the past,look at the shield and npc  now,same for a lot of Harness racing too.

[mikeynz]

Wonder how many people will be pouring into Addington today🙂

[Rangatira]

5 minutes ago, mikeynz said:

Wonder how many people will be pouring into Addington today🙂

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