Happy Sunrise Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Nowornever said: I am picking Ultimate Machete will be sub $3.00 on Cup day $5.50 good value for mine. Could be a prophetic call. He is a tough bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Nowornever said: I am picking Ultimate Machete will be sub $3.00 on Cup day $5.50 good value for mine. Certainly looks the best kiwi on show and as happy says tough and will come back stronger next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 13 hours ago, Nowornever said: I am picking Ultimate Machete will be sub $3.00 on Cup day $5.50 good value for mine. Gee, id be surprised if it is that short on the day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 6:03 PM, Happy Sunrise said: Can anyone tell me the last rivalry in harness racing? When two or three horses went at it to and fro in big races on a consistent basis? Can anyone look at the list of horses nominated and name who are the open class warriors challenging to win the NZ Cup after going so close last year? Is anyone excited by the fact one stable has 5 of the 7 horses at the top of the market? Is anyone actually interested in the opening of a (tight) market because they are keen on a horse who looks they could sneak a NZ Cup over the favourites? Is the TAB actually interested when they put a horse in the field who has supposedly been exported? Does anybody know the individual characteristics and personality of the horses involved like a Hands Down? I might be a bit harsh but I don't know, it doesn't excite me like it used to. Oddly I would look forward to the Dominion Handicap Trot more than the NZ Cup but that might be going too far. I miss seeing horses like The Bru Czar and Franco Ice etc. War horses that always showed up on raceday and were invariably driven accordingly regardless of what tactics were adopted to soften them up. I admire what the All Stars are achieving but do wonder if it's good for harness racing that one stable routinely takes all the cream on the cake. Perhaps that's why I always had a soft spot for war horses such as the two quoted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gavin said: I miss seeing horses like The Bru Czar and Franco Ice etc. War horses that always showed up on raceday and were invariably driven accordingly regardless of what tactics were adopted to soften them up. I admire what the All Stars are achieving but do wonder if it's good for harness racing that one stable routinely takes all the cream on the cake. Perhaps that's why I always had a soft spot for war horses such as the two quoted. i might agree a little bit but if iwas training i would aspire to beat them they dont haveall the good horses 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, wally said: i might agree a little bit but if iwas training i would aspire to beat them they dont haveall the good horses No they don’t, just the ones that get all the stake money in the group races! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 15 hours ago, Brodie said: No they don’t, just the ones that get all the stake money in the group races! If I had 50 of the best bred yearlings in the country I would throw away all the 1 and 2 winners and just keep the open class ones too. Makes sense to me. Why would you keep crap horses that might win 2 or three races and not pay the bills when you can race ones that can win a derby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 7:30 PM, Double R said: Another three horses added to the list today, and obviously someone is betting already as some odds have altered. Jack is at a reasonable price Robert, although a couple of points too short. Who the hell set Sheriffs price, because I would like to contact them. Whatever they are on would help me sleep better. Pats Delight dead set brained him off the trail at the Jewels, albeit a mile. Not a good look for two miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 21 hours ago, globederby12 said: Jack is at a reasonable price Robert, although a couple of points too short. Who the hell set Sheriffs price, because I would like to contact them. Whatever they are on would help me sleep better. Pats Delight dead set brained him off the trail at the Jewels, albeit a mile. Not a good look for two miles. Hi Rees, Sheriff and Pats Delight are very good horses. I would not worry about your concerns on Pats Delight Jewels win. The winner of the 2016, 3 year old Jewels, ran 2nd in last years Cup. Cheers. Robert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Whoops, I stand corrected, the 2017, 3 Year Old Jewels. Edited July 13, 2018 by Double R Spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Soho Tribeca has broken down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Soho Tribeca has broken down. Yep pastern,so I would imagine be out for 4-6 months. Shame as would have added a lot of interest to cup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Eamon Mcguire at $11 may be the one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double R Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 12/07/2018 at 10:35 PM, globederby12 said: Jack is at a reasonable price Robert, although a couple of points too short. Who the hell set Sheriffs price, because I would like to contact them. Whatever they are on would help me sleep better. Pats Delight dead set brained him off the trail at the Jewels, albeit a mile. Not a good look for two miles. Hi Rees, I think I read somewhere over the last couple of days that neither Pats Delight or Chase Auckland were being aimed at the Cup. Cheers. Robert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 The latest market comparing opening odds to now. Looks like the Tiger Tara early supporters are the big winners. Surprising so many have shortened up the top. Eamon at 9s? Star Galleria at 7s? I suppose Chase Auckland's demise did that. Shorteners: Ultimate Machete 5.50 to 4 80 Tiger Tara 18 to 6 Dream About Me 11 to 6.50 A G's White Socks 15 to 9 Eamon Maguire 11 to 9 Star Galleria 11 to 7 Captain Dolmio 26 to 15 Same Alta Orlando 26 Drifters Sheriff 7.50 to 15 The Fixer 11 to 18 Jack's Legend 11 to 12 Billy Badger 66 to 151 James Dean 101 to 151 Gone Chase Auckland 6 Sicario 15 Pat's Delight / Cash N Flow / Spankem / Classie Brigade 26 Buster Brady / Hail Christian / Tiger Thompson 66 Raukapuka Ruler / Mickey Gee 101 New to Market Cruz Bromac / Chicago Bull 9 Forgotten Highway 18 Northview Hustler 35 Letspendanitetogetha 51 No Doctor Needed / Alleluia 66 and a few others over 100... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 the tigers going to roar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: the tigers going to roar I saw he beat Chicago Bull in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, all stars not much firepower, lucky to be given Cruz bromac while he's in nz.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 very open cup this year seems like a lot of horses are not screwed right down yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, hunterthepunter said: very open cup this year seems like a lot of horses are not screwed right down yet For sure, most open cup in a long time, I'm actually looking forward to this one... ultimate machete and dream about me are the big lays of the cup, I wouldn't touch either over 2 miles....I'm sure I will be reminded pretty quickly if they win, but Chicago Bull, tiger Tara, forgotten highway and Jacks legend for 4th! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Surprised AG Whitesocks has shortened after being late scratched after being lame at Methven. You would think the trainers would know better than to line him up (or attempt to) when they knew he wasn't 100%. They did the same last year with Seel The Deal who was injected with gold injections to get him to the cup and it proved fruitless, not sure if he even had another start after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 15/10/2018 at 8:58 PM, hunterthepunter said: the tigers going to roar Tiger won tonight, 1.55.4 Mr 2300m at Menangle, very weak field but he did it on his ear, seems to be peaking at the right time... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 On 15/10/2018 at 8:26 PM, Happy Sunrise said: New to Market Cruz Bromac / Chicago Bull 9 If you had taken the 9s you would have been gutted to hear the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 On 15/10/2018 at 8:26 PM, Happy Sunrise said: Tiger Tara 18 to 6 now 3 90. Dreamland for the early takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 All the value gone. Waiting game for the day itself now. I still think Alta Orlando is the boilover at odds in the Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: All the value gone. Waiting game for the day itself now. I still think Alta Orlando is the boilover at odds in the Cup. Alta Orlando very good stayer, I can see something like that winning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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