the galah Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Well i have just read this and the answer is simple. I will never spend another dollar on betting on thoroughbreds. To me this isn't a matter of whether people take the vaccine or not. Its about whether the industry shows respect to everyone.To alienate a portion of those that participate and help keep it going sometimes spend small fortunes on different areas that keep the sport going is idiotic. Why would anyone with any principals want to contribute to an industry that does that. And if harness take the same steps,then it will be the same there. No more breeding,paying trainers,grazers,farriers,no more spending most days on the computer pumping money through the TAB. Everyone should take this stand. Its not about vaccines,as i'm not anti the vaccine. You know,one of the local pubs, who has one of the handful of tabs in the area,recently barred non vaccinated. I used to go there and look at their patrons,some fat,overweight heavy smokers and drinkers.I watched countless people spending their days pumping money through the pokie machines. And now they tell unvaccinated people they can't go there because they care about peoples health and wellbeing. Its all a joke,just as are those who have made this decision to kill future participation by many. 5 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) And i've been thinking ... If the racing leadership truly believe they need to take this stance to ensure anyone associated with racing is vaccinated,then for consistency purposes surely they must ensure that anyone going into an agency and placing a bet should have a vaccine passport.No proof of vaccination,no betting on racing. And why aren't they insisting the TAB only allows betting via the internet by vaccinated,as of course those unvaccinated who bet from home do go out occasionally and circulate with others.Ban them,and that will encourage them to get vaccinated. Of course they won't,because they are just hypocrites. The don't want the ban to apply to the part that helps fund them. Edited November 3, 2021 by the galah 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 hours ago, the galah said: And i've been thinking ... If the racing leadership truly believe they need to take this stance to ensure anyone associated with racing is vaccinated,then for consistency purposes surely they must ensure that anyone going into an agency and placing a bet should have a vaccine passport.No proof of vaccination,no betting on racing. And why aren't they insisting the TAB only allows betting via the internet by vaccinated,as of course those unvaccinated who bet from home do go out occasionally and circulate with others.Ban them,and that will encourage them to get vaccinated. Of course they won't,because they are just hypocrites. The don't want the ban to apply to the part that helps fund them. Unfortunately they are that silly that they will, only a matter of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel of Judas Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Short stuff has something to say to you anti Vax people! 😉 https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/11/auckland-businessman-leo-molloy-slams-anti-vaxxers-in-strongly-worded-column-explains-why-vaccination-is-right.html?cid=soc3%3Anewshubfb&fbclid=IwAR0HdwuS49SI7LBH0q9DFpMpZnm-UP83z42h2QCmY4fhhclVfmRdFnyaj5I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 anyone know if thomass princess has had the 2 jabs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 59 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: anyone know if thomass princess has had the 2 jabs ? No! After the first one she went down on him......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 BUT in the meantime: “Over the last month, 4,409 people over 50 were admitted to English hospitals after testing positive for Covid - despite having two doses of a vaccine. And 2,148 men and women in that age group lost their lives” https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59122646 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, curious said: BUT in the meantime: “Over the last month, 4,409 people over 50 were admitted to English hospitals after testing positive for Covid - despite having two doses of a vaccine. And 2,148 men and women in that age group lost their lives” https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59122646 Yes but apparently that is just a "Quirk in the Data...." In my opinion the following article is bollocks for a number of reasons. Basically it is saying that if you vaccinate 100% of the population then it follows that those who are hospitalised or die from Covid are vaccinated. However it is odd that over 10% of NZ's current cases are vaccinated. Surely that points to a lower efficacy for the vaccine than what we have been told. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/explained/126883892/covid19-how-raw-vaccine-and-case-data-can-be-very-misleading?cid=app-android 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: However it is odd that over 10% of NZ's current cases are vaccinated. Surely that points to a lower efficacy for the vaccine than what we have been told. Yes, and the politicians have redefined "cases". They are now reporting mostly symptomatic cases that test positive. That was only half the actual cases in 2020 according to the NZ serology study and if vaccination is reducing the number of symptomatic cases that is now probably much worse. Edited November 4, 2021 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Very interesting spin on figures tor sure, and said they don't want to discourage people, actually very surprised that article actually was printed, probably just because there's been some backlash to the cases that have been double penetrated and still sick, wouldn't want anything to negative out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: No! After the first one she went down on him......... Had a friend thought had one of those dolls, took it back to the store, told the retailer it went down on him, to which he replied if I'd known that I would had charged you double the price 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Shad said: Had a friend thought had one of those dolls, took it back to the store, told the retailer it went down on him, to which he replied if I'd known that I would had charged you double the price Classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes but apparently that is just a "Quirk in the Data...." In my opinion the following article is bollocks for a number of reasons. Basically it is saying that if you vaccinate 100% of the population then it follows that those who are hospitalised or die from Covid are vaccinated. However it is odd that over 10% of NZ's current cases are vaccinated. Surely that points to a lower efficacy for the vaccine than what we have been told. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/explained/126883892/covid19-how-raw-vaccine-and-case-data-can-be-very-misleading?cid=app-android So we accept that being fully vaccinated is the best form of protection from the virus,but then there needs to be a proper definition of fully vaccinated. The most obvious flaw of any government,media or NZTR type organisation who preach the message of division and hate ,is that due to significant waning of protection over time you need to have a third and eventually 4th and so on jab to really be fully vaccinated. So why are they saying having had 2 jabs of the pfizer vaccine in say the month of May makes you fully vaccinated,when the most recent studies show you only have around 50% protection after 6 months. Surely if there is to be any credibility, the definition of fully vaccinated must be going to change in the future,so as to include booster shots. Thats what many so called experts have been arguing for some time. Given the stance of the NZTR, we must expect and demand them to tell us why someone who has not had a booster shot by the recommended date, should be allowed onto a racecourse.Its only a matter of time. They have gone down this rabbit hole,so they must ride it to the end and be held accountable for the fallout and consequences to peoples lives that they will cause.Its not going to go away,it will be ever changing,but what we do know is they seem happy to reduce participation in their product and industry by 10%. You know i had a small business once. 50% of total revenue covered fixed costs. Therefore,if revenue from customers dropped 10%,effectively profit went down by 20%.Thats the direction the NZTR has made the decision to head in. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Yep I thInk I get the picture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 1:39 PM, Brodie said: Yay, Ardern and Co. have been so fortunate to be able to get another 4,7m more poison shots for the ignorant NZ piblic. They clearly work when they want to get even more of the poison into you! When has any vaccine required at least 3 shots into you lreviojsly i side a one year period? Never ever, and why is that? Because it is not a bloody vaccine, it is a poison and contains toxins! Yeah get it into you, you would really want to follow the advice of a Prime Minister with absolutely no success in life. Is becoming Prime Minister the new measure of becoming a successful....failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 7:37 AM, Brodie said: This is such a balls up by the most incompetent bunch of lightweights. They have got no idea what they are doing! Most of the ones in hospital icu’s around the world are the ones who have been jabbed with the poison. This is going to turn to total shite as people get crook and die from listening to Ardern. Hey Einstein 25% of road fatalities are caused by drunk drivers=75% are caused by ....sober drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Is becoming Prime Minister the new measure of becoming a successful....failure. Ardern is Prime Minister by default! Absolutely no success in life except to get nearly 90% of adult population to be forced into injecting toxins into them a d fkr what? It does not work and watch as it unfolds over the next couple of months! The problems have only just started! People just dont want to know that they have been scammed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: Hey Einstein 25% of road fatalities are caused by drunk drivers=75% are caused by ....sober drivers. Not sure of your point here? Einstein? Get some of those BOOSTER shots into you, has to be great for you as Ardern says it is the best defence against the flu!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, Brodie said: Ardern is Prime Minister by default! Absolutely no success in life except to get nearly 90% of adult population to be forced into injecting toxins into them a d fkr what? It does not work and watch as it unfolds over the next couple of months! The problems have only just started! People just dont want to know that they have been scammed! You must have slept through the last election! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: You must have slept through the last election! Holy, Dickheads voted her back in cos they said she kept them SAFE! Seriously? She is a control freak that has done more damage to the country than all other Prime ministers combined How on earth people could not see how incompetent this lot were In the first 3 years is hard to fathom? Edited November 9, 2021 by Brodie 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Brodie said: Holy, Dickheads voted her back in cos they said she kept them SAFE! Seriously? She is a control freak that has done more damage to the country than all other Prime ministers combined How on earth people could not see how incompetent this lot were In the first 3 years is hard to fathom? After 9 years of absolute neglect the majority saw a better option. National Govts ,maintain the status quo,they try and privatise and sell NZ off to foreigners. They never tackle inter generational problems,kick the can down the road is their default ...position. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: After 9 years of absolute neglect the majority saw a better option. National Govts ,maintain the status quo,they try and privatise and sell NZ off to foreigners. They never tackle inter generational problems,kick the can down the road is their default ...position. Holy, NZ was in a great financial position and tg8ngs were ticking along nicely. Labour has absolutely effed the place now and nkt just because kf the socalled Covid19! Homelessness has increased 5 fold in the 4 years of Ardern and co. Not a single person in that Labour caucus that is competent! I do feel frustration for the coming generations due to the total mismanagement and incompetence of this lot, however I did predict this as it was a no brainer! Not sour grapes as the decisions of Ardern and Co. has made us more money than you could even dream of due to their inability! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: National Govts ,maintain the status quo,they try and privatise and sell NZ off to foreigners. Didn't that start under Lange's Labour Government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 My Aussie mate lives in AKL, he was a hard working, committed and talented craftsman, he by his own admission is now a lazy, unmotivated couch potato, his own fault he says but he doesn't want to go back to work, he wont cope he says, and he means it...........are there more? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Didn't that start under Lange's Labour Government? Yes it did....the the neo liberal traitors-Douglas,Prebble....still spruiking ...for ACT these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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