Here we go again!

[Taku Umanga]

[Spatchcock]

32 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said:

Gee you've been busy this morning, Dave. How many pages have you posted it on now?

[Dougie]

27 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said:

 

Good on AF making this statement.

Young Mr Jones must be an interesting chap, his stable look to be a big punting stable as most of his runners are heavily backed..... but geez his stats are crazy good with so so horses.

That horse last night that was scratched.. 5 year old maiden had his 1st start 3 weeks ago after only qualifying as a 5 year old down south.... runs a 1:54 mile rate.

[greyhound]

[Chief Stipe]

22 minutes ago, Dougie said:

That horse last night that was scratched.. 5 year old maiden had his 1st start 3 weeks ago after only qualifying as a 5 year old down south.... runs a 1:54 mile rate.

No it didn't.  The WINNER ran 1:54.9MR for 1980m.

Johnny Nevits ran 3rd 7.5 lengths from the winner and 1.5 seconds slower than the winner.

He got the run of the race in the 1:1 but couldn't keep up over the concluding stages.

 

[Gammalite]

Hopefully the stewards would order Pre-race blood samples be taken , before scratching horses with rule 213. 

That way they could gather physical evidence from the lab over future days..... to justify actions.

And like-wise the Trainers name can be cleared if Nothing is found , instead of being in Limbo with accusations.

[Joe Bloggs]

Gee, there might be something in what was being posted here in Oz regarding 'happenings' at that beach......eh Chief?

[Chief Stipe]

54 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Gee, there might be something in what was being posted here in Oz regarding 'happenings' at that beach......eh Chief?

So a scumbag lowlife excuse for a hack journalist writes an article on a blog a couple of weeks ago full of innuendo and supposition about something going down at Woodend.

This so called "news" is splashed all over social media and debated widely.

A stable is inspected, a horse is punted large, a pre-race blood test taken and the horse is scratched.

What's bleeding obviously wrong with this picture?

If Jones is guilty of doing anything then he must be bloody stupid or live in total social isolation.

What's more is this yet another case of the RIB hiding in hedges on the basis of something recieved via their 0800 snitch line?  

 

 

[Chief Stipe]

Of course we now have all the theorists referring to Jones's "spectacular strike rate" as if it is dodgy.  Well it isn't overly spectacular - Zach Butcher's is the same.

Then we have the usual "I always thought that such and such horses improvement was suspicious"......and so on and so on.

[Gammalite]

7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

A stable is inspected, a horse is punted large, a pre-race blood test taken and the horse is scratched

Well it seems the 'Stables' are all in close proximity going by the A Fitzgerald response. 

Alford could still be contact with some folk , even if banned 7 years from the premises. He got outed via injections given , as in the official report of his conviction it states that Johny Nevits failed to co-operate with his nasal tubing on the day , earlier in year . They can't even do that right lol. Using decades old methods (like McGrath as well sadly), so ......

Why would the Stewards Not be keeping a Serious Eye on that barn ????   snitch not needed.

[Ludwig]

20 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Of course we now have all the theorists referring to Jones's "spectacular strike rate" as if it is dodgy.  Well it isn't overly spectacular - Zach Butcher's is the same.

Then we have the usual "I always thought that such and such horses improvement was suspicious"......and so on and so on.

Some of the nonsense being spouted as "fact" by people who still struggle with tying their shoelaces is alarming. Some of the know it alls on social media need to take a deep breath.

[Chief Stipe]

18 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

Why would the Stewards Not be keeping a Serious Eye on that barn ????   snitch not needed.

So you'd be bloody stupid to try anything wouldn't you.  

[Chief Stipe]

BTW @Joe Bloggs your famous journo Peter Profit couldn't get the basic facts right.  Contrary to what he wrote there wasn't a needle found in the float nor has Andrew Fitzgerald been implicated.  All there  clear as day in the Stewards Report - "After a report from RIB investigators following a stable inspection Stewards elected to scratch Johnny Nevits...."

[Joe Bloggs]

41 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

So a scumbag lowlife excuse for a hack journalist writes an article on a blog a couple of weeks ago full of innuendo and supposition about something going down at Woodend.

This so called "news" is splashed all over social media and debated widely.

A stable is inspected, a horse is punted large, a pre-race blood test taken and the horse is scratched.

What's bleeding obviously wrong with this picture?

If Jones is guilty of doing anything then he must be bloody stupid or live in total social isolation.

What's more is this yet another case of the RIB hiding in hedges on the basis of something recieved via their 0800 snitch line?  

 

 

Why would he have headlined it? He lives in Cairns, something isn't kosher either the RIU are up to no good [happens] or there is someone leaking at the source [go figure].

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

So you'd be bloody stupid to try anything wouldn't you.  

Of course!!!! . But all horses are treated and it's the business of the Trainer. even VE gets something.

How anyone can possibly Train out of one Barn with other Trainers? (as Fitzgerald claims at start of this thread) is an absolute DISASTER. ?? How is it possible (security wise)?? You would live in total fear of someone nobbling your horse. or this being dobbed in type of shit as well.

I worked at 5 different stable locations (Nz, Vic, Qld) and PRIVACY is Essential , I would of thought. How can you do stuff with your horse in such close proximity to Rivals? Doesn't make a skerritt of sense to me.

I never once gave information to Trainers about previous trainers establishments treatment methods. Totally Out of respect and it's Not their business . sometimes might have shared Trackwork experience's but definitely Never treatment and feed options used. You need Respect and Honesty in Life. 2 main things.

 

[Chief Stipe]

If I was Andrew Fitzgerald I'd be suing the pants off Peter Profit.

[Brodie]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

If I was Andrew Fitzgerald I'd be suing the pants off Peter Profit.

Who is Peter Profit and where do we see the article, Chief?

[Brodie]

I personally do not condone cheating by any trainers at all!

However there is an issue at play that has been around for awhile now and into the future unfortunately!

It is pretty much impossible to make money as a trainer nowadays racing horses, unless you are a major stable.

The young trainers that have been caught up doing things that are classed as illegal are all trying to make a profit as well trying to make a name for themselves so they can attract new owners.

As we all know it is practically impossible to win the big stake money due to the AllStars stables plundering the majority of the stakes!

It is pretty clear to Brodie that Harness Racing for the trainer with only a small number of owners is getting close to being over.

Racing fields are going to be dominated by a small no. Of trainers unfortunately and as the older trainers move on to greener pastures, field no.s will struggle.

These young trainers can just not compete with the major stables as the majority of their horses they are getting are normally past their best!

Young trainers like Matt Purvis, Andrew Fitzgerald are enthusiasts that deserve their success and we certainly need to laud them rather than try and knock them out of the game!

You would certainly need to be very dedicated to the sport to keep going for the modest amount you can earn from harness racing nowadays!

Far easier and financially rewarding ways of making a living than working 7 days a week and generally long hours training horses.

 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Brodie

[Rangatira]

33 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Who is Peter Profit and where do we see the article, Chief?

peterprofit.com/category/the-trots/

[hunterthepunter]

I see old condom heads old trotter now trained at Woodend beach

[Spatchcock]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

I personally do not condone cheating by any trainers at all!

However there is an issue at play that has been around for awhile now and into the future unfortunately!

It is pretty much impossible to make money as a trainer nowadays racing horses, unless you are a major stable.

The young trainers that have been caught up doing things that are classed as illegal are all trying to make a profit as well trying to make a name for themselves so they can attract new owners.

As we all know it is practically impossible to win the big stake money due to the AllStars stables plundering the majority of the stakes!

It is pretty clear to Brodie that Harness Racing for the trainer with only a small number of owners is getting close to being over.

Racing fields are going to be dominated by a small no. Of trainers unfortunately and as the older trainers move on to greener pastures, field no.s will struggle.

These young trainers can just not compete with the major stables as the majority of their horses they are getting are normally past their best!

Young trainers like Matt Purvis, Andrew Fitzgerald are enthusiasts that deserve their success and we certainly need to laud them rather than try and knock them out of the game!

You would certainly need to be very dedicated to the sport to keep going for the modest amount you can earn from harness racing nowadays!

Far easier and financially rewarding ways of making a living than working 7 days a week and generally long hours training horses.

 

if you weren't such a numpty wounder I would give you credit for this post.

[Brodie]

38 minutes ago, Spatchcock said:

if you weren't such a numpty wounder I would give you credit for this post.

What on earth is a Numpty Wounder Mr Cock?

I will take it as a compliment obviously, so thankyou!

Edited December 11, 2021 by Brodie

[Rangatira]

13 hours ago, hunterthepunter said:

I see old condom heads old trotter now trained at Woodend beach

The one he named after you ?

[Joe Bloggs]

17 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

If I was Andrew Fitzgerald I'd be suing the pants off Peter Profit.

The irony is Chief, he's labelled quite a few,  he's not been sued for liable yet [as far as I know] and some of the things he says against the trot people in particular are astonishing, yet, no-one has taken him to the cleaners, if its' all bullshit and lies then for everyone's sake he should be stopped.....but he's going at it stronger than ever......

[Chief Stipe]

30 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

The irony is Chief, he's labelled quite a few,  he's not been sued for liable yet [as far as I know] and some of the things he says against the trot people in particular are astonishing, yet, no-one has taken him to the cleaners, if its' all bullshit and lies then for everyone's sake he should be stopped.....but he's going at it stronger than ever......

He doesn't have any money so all a bit pointless.

He should be sued by the Racing Industry and rubbed out because he brings racing into disrepute.

The Brisbane Racing Club took him on earlier this year.  I don't know what the outcome was.

His real name is Brenden Sheehan.  I believe if he ever ventured back into South Auckland he'd never get out again.

Says a lot about a person who needs or wants to change their real name from Brenden Sheehan to Archie Butterfly.

Every two or three years he crosses the line too far, gets taken to court, loses and his current website is taken down.