Bronson Munro

[Brodie]

12 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

What annoys me the most about this whole situation with the story that appeared is that Martin vb, who is a very good journalist when he wants to be, has again gone off half-cocked with a story based purely on sensationalism. 

This is the same guy who only a year or so ago was telling us that police were about to make arrests on our two best drivers for race-fixing, he was certain that he had broken this huge scandal in harness racing and yet we were never to see any proof of it - other than the rubbish that came from the tip of his fingers and onto his keyboard. 

Bronson is no saint. He'll be the first to admit that to anyone who has asked. But he is a good kid. 

I had a bit to do with the rugby incident a few years back and there was a lot of questions raised around that entire case. Bronson was, in short, used as a scapegoat by the Canterbury Rugby Union to deter any future racial abusers. The entire hearing was a joke, with no one being able to actually 100 per cent confirm that anything was actually said, only the word of the player involved who had a similar incident thrown out at another rugby union when it was found to be untrue. 

Yet unfortunately for him, and I'll stick to my opinion that based on the proof I've seen of that particular incident and the conversations I had with people involved in that match, the no such racial slur was actually said, Bronson was thrown under the bus and dragged through the media mud for it as well. 

The mad has stuck too - and this most recent incident has of course given it a new shine. 

He'll learn from it, comments and abuse, in their many forms, happen at every race meeting in some sense from both males and females - my only hope is that the same journalist actually broadens his horizons and decides to tell the other side of the story as well. 

Counter Punch, where have you been?

Well done for coming onto the Premier Racing Community site and telling it the way it is!

If you had done this a few days ago then there would not have been as much crap written about Bronson.

I don’t know Bronson that well, but as I said previously I have spoken to him several times and every time he has come across as a nice young bloke with no issues whatsoever.

I played a fair bit of sport as a younger fellah, as I would think that you did as well, as there was plenty of rascist and other probably not politically correct things said back then.

Thank you for coming on and hopefully this will have helped Bronson being able to hold his head up abit more!

I feel really sorry for what this young fellah has had to endure from the media from Martin VB who has written the story just to make a story.

You say he is a good journalist but in my opinion he is a crap journalist for publishing stuff that has affected a young mans life quite dramatically.

If anyone sees Bronson around it would be nice if the Racing Community can get behind him and support him as I am sure he needs it.

I certainly will talk to him and those that have condemned him on what has been written about him should damn well reconsider your stance.

Ahhhh that feels better!!! 

[Blossom lady]

18 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

What annoys me the most about this whole situation with the story that appeared is that Martin vb, who is a very good journalist when he wants to be, has again gone off half-cocked with a story based purely on sensationalism. 

This is the same guy who only a year or so ago was telling us that police were about to make arrests on our two best drivers for race-fixing, he was certain that he had broken this huge scandal in harness racing and yet we were never to see any proof of it - other than the rubbish that came from the tip of his fingers and onto his keyboard. 

Bronson is no saint. He'll be the first to admit that to anyone who has asked. But he is a good kid. 

I had a bit to do with the rugby incident a few years back and there was a lot of questions raised around that entire case. Bronson was, in short, used as a scapegoat by the Canterbury Rugby Union to deter any future racial abusers. The entire hearing was a joke, with no one being able to actually 100 per cent confirm that anything was actually said, only the word of the player involved who had a similar incident thrown out at another rugby union when it was found to be untrue. 

Yet unfortunately for him, and I'll stick to my opinion that based on the proof I've seen of that particular incident and the conversations I had with people involved in that match, the no such racial slur was actually said, Bronson was thrown under the bus and dragged through the media mud for it as well. 

The mad has stuck too - and this most recent incident has of course given it a new shine. 

He'll learn from it, comments and abuse, in their many forms, happen at every race meeting in some sense from both males and females - my only hope is that the same journalist actually broadens his horizons and decides to tell the other side of the story as well. 

I'll add a bit more to that rugby case. The southbridge manager and his 2 daughters were the main witnesses. The ref who was right there and his two assistants all claimed they never heard anything racist. The southbridge manager pulled a genius move and went to his mate in the press and got bronson' name out there before case was heard and unfortunately for bronson the Crfu had to be seen to be doing something about it. I believe there was another incident in club rooms after game where a southbridge player threatened a couple of opposition supporters as well. In many eyes all southbridge did was show themselves off as being poor losers.

[Happy Sunrise]

These recent posts just show the importance of getting information out there. Having all the information is the only way to have an informed opinion. I, for one, may have been too harsh on the lad.

[Flagship uberalles]

3 hours ago, Counter Punch said:

What annoys me the most about this whole situation with the story that appeared is that Martin vb, who is a very good journalist when he wants to be, has again gone off half-cocked with a story based purely on sensationalism. 

This is the same guy who only a year or so ago was telling us that police were about to make arrests on our two best drivers for race-fixing, he was certain that he had broken this huge scandal in harness racing and yet we were never to see any proof of it - other than the rubbish that came from the tip of his fingers and onto his keyboard. 

Bronson is no saint. He'll be the first to admit that to anyone who has asked. But he is a good kid. 

I had a bit to do with the rugby incident a few years back and there was a lot of questions raised around that entire case. Bronson was, in short, used as a scapegoat by the Canterbury Rugby Union to deter any future racial abusers. The entire hearing was a joke, with no one being able to actually 100 per cent confirm that anything was actually said, only the word of the player involved who had a similar incident thrown out at another rugby union when it was found to be untrue. 

Yet unfortunately for him, and I'll stick to my opinion that based on the proof I've seen of that particular incident and the conversations I had with people involved in that match, the no such racial slur was actually said, Bronson was thrown under the bus and dragged through the media mud for it as well. 

The mad has stuck too - and this most recent incident has of course given it a new shine. 

He'll learn from it, comments and abuse, in their many forms, happen at every race meeting in some sense from both males and females - my only hope is that the same journalist actually broadens his horizons and decides to tell the other side of the story as well. 

Nice one counter punch, it just goes to show the power of the media, people take them for gospel, and the words "racist" and "me too" are the "jump on the band wagon" words that are constantly rammed down our throats... People are hung without a fair trial by the public because of journo's trying to get a headline.

[Richie]

4 hours ago, Blossom lady said:

I'll add a bit more to that rugby case. The southbridge manager and his 2 daughters were the main witnesses. The ref who was right there and his two assistants all claimed they never heard anything racist. The southbridge manager pulled a genius move and went to his mate in the press and got bronson' name out there before case was heard and unfortunately for bronson the Crfu had to be seen to be doing something about it. I believe there was another incident in club rooms after game where a southbridge player threatened a couple of opposition supporters as well. In many eyes all southbridge did was show themselves off as being poor losers.

Didn't the ref say that he heard Bronson say something but was too far away to hear if it was offensive or not,and while the Southbridge manager was one of the main witnesses their were a couple of spectators with Waihora connections that testified as well.Unfortunately for Bronson the abuse at Forbury was heard by a steward and members of the public,not a good look for him or the industry

[wally]

6 minutes ago, Richie said:

Didn't the ref say that he heard Bronson say something but was too far away to hear if it was offensive or not,and while the Southbridge manager was one of the main witnesses their were a couple of spectators with Waihora connections that testified as well.Unfortunately for Bronson the abuse at Forbury was heard by a steward and members of the public,not a good look for him or the industry

did anyone actually here what he said at the game

[Blossom lady]

4 minutes ago, wally said:

did anyone actually here what he said at the game

According to the southbridge manager and his daughters they did.

i did hear that a southbridge Fijian wing told bronson the whole thing was bullshit. That player no longer plays for southbridge.

[Richie]

4 minutes ago, wally said:

did anyone actually here what he said at the game

The victim and apparently a , few spectators,it was thought at the time that a couple of Waihora players may have, but they said they heard him say something but couldn't understand what.

[Richie]

1 minute ago, Blossom lady said:

According to the southbridge manager and his daughters they did.

i did hear that a southbridge Fijian wing told bronson the whole thing was bullshit. That player no longer plays for southbridge.

Is that the winger that moved to Ashburton.

[Blossom lady]

14 minutes ago, Richie said:

Didn't the ref say that he heard Bronson say something but was too far away to hear if it was offensive or not,and while the Southbridge manager was one of the main witnesses their were a couple of spectators with Waihora connections that testified as well.Unfortunately for Bronson the abuse at Forbury was heard by a steward and members of the public,not a good look for him or the industry

According to the transcripts of the case the ref never heard a racist comment which is what the Waihora witnesses said as well.

no one is saying what happened at forbury is a good look. It just didn't need to be dragged through mainstream media.

[wally]

5 minutes ago, Blossom lady said:

According to the southbridge manager and his daughters they did.

i did hear that a southbridge Fijian wing told bronson the whole thing was bullshit. That player no longer plays for southbridge.

wouldnt believe the southbridge manager

[wally]

6 minutes ago, Richie said:

The victim and apparently a , few spectators,it was thought at the time that a couple of Waihora players may have, but they said they heard him say something but couldn't understand what.

hearsay convicted on bullshite

[Blossom lady]

3 minutes ago, wally said:

wouldnt believe the southbridge manager

No one does. I heard next time southbridge played at Waihora he was mia. Maybe he had something else on. Maybe a guilty conscience. Who knows!

[Richie]

1 minute ago, wally said:

hearsay convicted on bullshite

That the trouble though Wally,the thought at the time was nobody said he didn't say it they just didn't here him say it,

7 minutes ago, wally said:

hearsay convicted on bullshite

Also as some said what did the "victim"have to gain,nothing,so why make it up.

I guess we will never know what was said and that the trouble with heat of the moment exchanges is sometimes exactly what was and wasn't said can be misconstrued and nobody can really remember.Especially after a head high tackle on a team mate.

 

[Blossom lady]

3 minutes ago, Richie said:

That the trouble though Wally,the thought at the time was nobody said he didn't say it they just didn't here him say it,

Also as some said what did the "victim"have to gain,nothing,so why make it up.

I guess we will never know what was said and that the trouble with heat of the moment exchanges is sometimes exactly what was and wasn't said can be misconstrued and nobody can really remember.Especially after a head high tackle on a team mate.

 

Interesting you mention that head high tackle. Coaches at a number of other country teams have mentioned that particular player and his tackling team and that the southbridge management had the refs running scared f being called racists. Sound familiar!

[Newmarket]

Thank god no social media, phone cameras etc were around 30 odd years ago. Can you imagine it, we would all be in the news.

[Brodie]

I know this is not culturally correct nowadays, but FFS there has and always will be racism in every part of the world each and every day and it isn’t splashed all over the media!

We all know that many of the supposed first people into NZ hate the whiteman in NZ, there is a gang that many of us have heard of and it is not illegal or they would be prosecuted and disbanded!

I am sure most of us have been subjected to racism during our life so far.

Many schools make school children learn Maori and many employees need to also learn the language etc.

Is this not flippen racism but this is ok, which is total hypocrisy!

Look at the spur of the moment when under pressure I am sure most of us have said things that we have regretted whether it is to our partner or boss if you have one!

Bronson has had a raw deal from the media especially this Martin VB the supposed journalist, and if I happened to run into him I would give him a gobfull, and I would not care  one iota whether he published it the media, because he was an absolute pillack for treating Bronson Munro the way he has without writing the full story.

You can quote me on that because he deserves it!

 

 

 

 

[Kakama]

10 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Thank god no social media, phone cameras etc were around 30 odd years ago. Can you imagine it, we would all be in the news.

Ain't that for real.....

[OLDWHITEMAN]

On 22/07/2018 at 11:11 PM, Brodie said:

Bronson does not have the might of a big harness name behind him so will battle to make a living out of the industry and after this, who knows he may give it away?

 

Mr Munro is from a reasonably successful harness family; I believe he is son/grandson/nephew of trainer Neil Munro who tastes success from a small team. It is possible to make a living out of the industry without having a harness family behind you... think R. Todd. Unfortunately, Mr Bronson Munro, has done himself no favours with his unacceptable behaviour. He may be best to consider another career option.

[wally]

55 minutes ago, OLDWHITEMAN said:

Mr Munro is from a reasonably successful harness family; I believe he is son/grandson/nephew of trainer Neil Munro who tastes success from a small team. It is possible to make a living out of the industry without having a harness family behind you... think R. Todd. Unfortunately, Mr Bronson Munro, has done himself no favours with his unacceptable behaviour. He may be best to consider another career option.

dont think so old whitey get on bronson tonight

[Blossom lady]

1 hour ago, OLDWHITEMAN said:

Mr Munro is from a reasonably successful harness family; I believe he is son/grandson/nephew of trainer Neil Munro who tastes success from a small team. It is possible to make a living out of the industry without having a harness family behind you... think R. Todd. Unfortunately, Mr Bronson Munro, has done himself no favours with his unacceptable behaviour. He may be best to consider another career option.

Grandson I think. Lol

really you don't have a clue.

the best example of a someone having big success in this industry not from a racing background is blair orange.

[Richie]

15 hours ago, Brodie said:

I know this is not culturally correct nowadays, but FFS there has and always will be racism in every part of the world each and every day and it isn’t splashed all over the media!

We all know that many of the supposed first people into NZ hate the whiteman in NZ, there is a gang that many of us have heard of and it is not illegal or they would be prosecuted and disbanded!

I am sure most of us have been subjected to racism during our life so far.

Many schools make school children learn Maori and many employees need to also learn the language etc.

Is this not flippen racism but this is ok, which is total hypocrisy!

Look at the spur of the moment when under pressure I am sure most of us have said things that we have regretted whether it is to our partner or boss if you have one!

Bronson has had a raw deal from the media especially this Martin VB the supposed journalist, and if I happened to run into him I would give him a gobfull, and I would not care  one iota whether he published it the media, because he was an absolute pillack for treating Bronson Munro the way he has without writing the full story.

You can quote me on that because he deserves it!

 

 

 

 

Brodie  I cant work out why in both instances of Bronsons misdemeanours he has not publicly given his side of the story,therefore can only be judged,rightly or wrongly, on the information provided which doesn't show him in good light.I seen him play a bit of rugby and a very talented player and hopefully will come back and not let this slip up hinder his future in the sport.However not sure if he will have a future in harness racing if he starts abusing people if he doesn't get his own way.He was no more entitled to lead than anybody else and has to learn to take the good with the bad. 

[Happy Sunrise]

His week may get worse.

He should be fined for not being on the gate with Eye Candy in race 2 as it allowed him to drop to the rails quickly and get a run right up the inside.

[Rangatira]

On 26/07/2018 at 9:25 PM, Blossom lady said:

no one is saying what happened at forbury is a good look. It just didn't need to be dragged through mainstream media.

better not to do it in the first place bronson just seems to lack cleverness 

[the galah]

4 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said:

His week may get worse.

He should be fined for not being on the gate with Eye Candy in race 2 as it allowed him to drop to the rails quickly and get a run right up the inside.

He struck a race where the mobile appeared to be driven at a much faster speed tin the final 150m of the score up in comparison with the other 2000m mobile races held today, giving him not much chance of catching up. Have a look and compare them happy.