Joe Bloggs Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 The 2yo at NP today has to be the sign off for one T Lee, if that's not the worst call ever, everyman and his dog could tell the fav was going to pick the leader up, but not Tony. He's like the rest at Petone, past their use by date. A good caller once, not now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I'm like him I thought the leader was home, it certainly looked it, you must have a very good eye JB ; 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 Gee I'm 3,000km away Huey and when the leader paddled you could see [IMO] the fav going two to it's one....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I agree Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Agree. Well past his use by date. Bring back Chris McQuaid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 He sounds terrible T Lee, not even half the caller he was before he got the arse. He should give it away before people only remember him going downhill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 His enthusiasm has probably diminished considerably and he is probably riding on the coat tails of the incredibly gifted Sweeney in the CD 😃 , but you'd have to agree it's got to be hardwork doing nzracing with any sort of genuine enthusiasm. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Probably late offering any constructive criticism towards Mr Lee. One aspect is the screaming near the finish excepting in some cases e.g. "dream burst into reality" but certainly Justin Evans needs to be pulled up. Please "less screaming more style". Will get a bit tiresome towards the end of the holidays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Centaur said: Probably late offering any constructive criticism towards Mr Lee. One aspect is the screaming near the finish excepting in some cases e.g. "dream burst into reality" but certainly Justin Evans needs to be pulled up. Please "less screaming more style". Will get a bit tiresome towards the end of the holidays. I find the present commentators rather robotic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, The Centaur said: Probably late offering any constructive criticism towards Mr Lee. One aspect is the screaming near the finish excepting in some cases e.g. "dream burst into reality" but certainly Justin Evans needs to be pulled up. Please "less screaming more style". Will get a bit tiresome towards the end of the holidays. Agree. But that comes from Tony Lee, Justin was brought along at one point by Tony. He clearly is still trying to be like him and living in his shadow. You never hear Matt Hill or in the past Greg Miles screaming at a finish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Our equivalent is Rick MacIntosh, someone must have told him to be witty and scream, Meg Ryan did it well, this goose sounds like a pre-pubescent on the Ghost train, and as for wit? Bert Bryant would have him on toast, Mark Mac was an absolute talent, he should have been given the keys to Chch, and Bernies salary to stay, trots, gallops, dogs, he could call a cockroach derby and make it cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bill said: Agree. But that comes from Tony Lee, Justin was brought along at one point by Tony. He clearly is still trying to be like him and living in his shadow. You never hear Matt Hill or in the past Greg Miles screaming at a finish Dave MacDonald is sadly missed. And the holiday period is never complete without Ian Chambers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: Our equivalent is Rick MacIntosh, someone must have told him to be witty and scream, Meg Ryan did it well, this goose sounds like a pre-pubescent on the Ghost train, and as for wit? Bert Bryant would have him on toast, Mark Mac was an absolute talent, he should have been given the keys to Chch, and Bernies salary to stay, trots, gallops, dogs, he could call a cockroach derby and make it cool. Agree, Mark Mac was super. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Freda said: Agree, Mark Mac was super. I like how he could put as much energy and enthusiasm into a maiden trot, as he did for the big races. A bit off subject but I hope Reon Murtha is happy and well in his retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Carter Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Tony Lee and George Simon are world class! The best in the business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, Tim Carter said: Tony Lee and George Simon are world class! The best in the business! You jest, one needs Specsavers, the other prozac....... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Ludwig said: I like how he could put as much energy and enthusiasm into a maiden trot, as he did for the big races. A bit off subject but I hope Reon Murtha is happy and well in his retirement. Absolutely, another who didn't get the plaudits but was reliable and accurate was Alan Bright.....remember him? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Absolutely, another who didn't get the plaudits but was reliable and accurate was Alan Bright.....remember him? I grew up in Palmy, so I remember Alan Bright. He lived very much in the shadow of Peter Kelly, who was the one I based my childhood marble commentaries upon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 The greatest [IMO] of all time was the incredible Joe Brown, I've lived in Oz for nearly 50 years and when I got here Joe was acknowledged as the best, he was, Bill Collins [The accurate one] was emerging and Joe was in his twilight years, those of you old enough to remember his calls from across the ditch might recall the hairs on the back of your neck standing up and feeling for your tab tickets. Race calling must be unforgiving, they can't undo a bad call, or going the early crow, however NZTR should have looked after their up and coming callers like Tom Wood and Jason Teaz, our young callers like Luke Marlow, Mitch Manners and Josh Fleming were nurtured [read I said nurtured NOT neutered] they have long successful careers ahead, fossils belong in the museums, not perched 20 metres above the ground opposite the winning post. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: The greatest [IMO] of all time was the incredible Joe Brown, I've lived in Oz for nearly 50 years and when I got here Joe was acknowledged as the best, he was, Bill Collins [The accurate one] was emerging and Joe was in his twilight years, those of you old enough to remember his calls from across the ditch might recall the hairs on the back of your neck standing up and feeling for your tab tickets. Race calling must be unforgiving, they can't undo a bad call, or going the early crow, however NZTR should have looked after their up and coming callers like Tom Wood and Jason Teaz, our young callers like Luke Marlow, Mitch Manners and Josh Fleming were nurtured [read I said nurtured NOT neutered] they have long successful careers ahead, fossils belong in the museums, not perched 20 metres above the ground opposite the winning post. I agree that new commentators like Messer's Teaz and Wood should have been looked after much better. Obviously with modern technology, the commentator is much more under the microscope than in the days of the legendary Bill Cherry , when there were no TV cameras to confirm his call. On a different note, whenever I attend Oamaru racecourse, I never sit directly under the commentators box____at some point in the distant past the floor/ceiling gave way. I've never found out the details, but I like to think that maybe it was a primitive form of commentator disposal seat. Perhaps we could reactivate.? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kihikihi Kid Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Bring back Terry Yule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Carter Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 8:46 PM, Joe Bloggs said: You jest, one needs Specsavers, the other prozac....... Commentary boxes are in a lot of cases poorly placed. Watching a race on TV you have the luxury of getting a very accurate view of the race. Give those guys a break if they get it wrong now and again. Soon as they make a mistake they get hammered but seldom do they get praise for a job that is not easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Tim Carter said: Commentary boxes are in a lot of cases poorly placed. Watching a race on TV you have the luxury of getting a very accurate view of the race. Give those guys a break if they get it wrong now and again. Soon as they make a mistake they get hammered but seldom do they get praise for a job that is not easy. I agree in part Tim, however, they are well paid and accountable, or are they? It appears not, jocks get called out for a bad ride/s and in some cases get time for a bad ride, these two blokes are making too many mistakes and yet seem ambivalent. There are some young talented callers waiting for an opportunity, and as I'm an aged fella, I'm not being ageist when I say, we need younger callers coming through, by denying them we are costing the industry, at the very least these fellows should be job sharing, so those young callers aren't lost forever......Tony and George aren't anywhere good enough now, I stand by what I said, stand down and give a young un a go......and I'm older than both George and Tony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Carter Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: I agree in part Tim, however, they are well paid and accountable, or are they? It appears not, jocks get called out for a bad ride/s and in some cases get time for a bad ride, these two blokes are making too many mistakes and yet seem ambivalent. There are some young talented callers waiting for an opportunity, and as I'm an aged fella, I'm not being ageist when I say, we need younger callers coming through, by denying them we are costing the industry, at the very least these fellows should be job sharing, so those young callers aren't lost forever......Tony and George aren't anywhere good enough now, I stand by what I said, stand down and give a young un a go......and I'm older than both George and Tony. You are a bit harsh mate. Your opinion so be it. Jocks have bad rides and it cost Owners! Relate that to Race callers making the odd mistake! I do not see the comparison. I do not like Justin Marshall's commentary when the All Blacks play so I hit the mute button. Maybe you could try that approach with George and Tony? Then just wait for the official result on screen, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tim Carter said: You are a bit harsh mate. Your opinion so be it. Jocks have bad rides and it cost Owners! Relate that to Race callers making the odd mistake! I do not see the comparison. I do not like Justin Marshall's commentary when the All Blacks play so I hit the mute button. Maybe you could try that approach with George and Tony? Then just wait for the official result on screen, They tell me Justin has applied to NZTR for a commentators position Tim, by gee you're in trouble now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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