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Personally dont think that whingeing is when someone is prepared to stand up to what they know is morally and ethically wrong! Anyone that has any sense of fairness can see that Brodie is right in his thinking snd if it affected them, then they would hold the same opinion. People need to express their opinions and whether they are right or wrong they need to be heard. The thing is we never hear from the TAB as to why they think they should be allowed to treat punters in NZ differently! What other businesses do we know of that are allowed to treat their customers unfairly and get away with it?

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i haven't heard the whinging pom words for some time over here. i think its petered out due to the changing demographics of who lives in nz  these days. these days people migrating to nz from the uk are less than half the likes of china or india. Where i live theres lots of indians in particular. i have seen bits of that news coverage on the english cricket supporters reaction to how their cricket team is going.i agree that from what i saw,they do seem hard to please and unrealistic.But i always treat any news story with a degree of skepticism these days so i'm not sure whether i believe the news stories is a true relection of how the average pom feels about their team.

The sole reason that I continue to go on about restrictions etc. is the total victimisation of some punters and the favouritism towards others! The TAB advertises that punters should bet responsibly! Now do they actually mean this or is it just to try and show that they do care? Has anyone heard of the TAB restricting or stopping losing punters from wagering??? Personally I never have, but what the TAB actually does do is restrict punters that do bet responsibly and are winning punters!! So we can see the Hypocrisy in a big way coming from them! They have been giving the Out The Gate extra bonus cash, bonus bets and increased fixed odds since it started whereas some punters continue to be restricted to buggerall! Winning punters are restricted as soon as they start winning consistently and  yet OTG have been winning recently and yet they get rewarded with “Free money”! While the TAB continues to operate morally and ethically wrongly, surely it is anyones right to point this out? The answer is to treat all punters fairly and then there will be no issues. If they havent got the fortitude to take the punters on when they put up fixed odds then say so and put restrictions on every punter in NZ. Why dont they come out and advertise the fact that they only want to take wagering from punters that are going to lose? Brodie just telling it the way most people would think is fair and reasonable.  

A prediction to me, is an informed opinion, NOT a fact, as it hasn't happened.

Fair enough. I would still contest the 'Laws of Probability' in mathematics and even calculating for an event to occur,  are slightly different to the PREDICTION and OPINION of an outcome.  but they do all inter-twine I guess.  Gammalite didn't win at Addington in 5 attempts as the Brodster had the Canterbury locals 'fired up' far too much 😎 so the 'Prediction' of a NZ Cup win (or any Addington Win didn't happen , and the 'Opinion' of that is well  > "That Sucks'. 🤣  but the 'Laws of Probability' of winning the NZ Cup off the Handicap (on 2 occasions)  given to him suggested he would Not win the race anyway.   

No that isn't how probability works.  

However the forecast models are significantly more accurate than they were 40 years ago.  Their accuracy increases the closer you get to the day or hour. My partner uses the YR weather forecasting model and often I get told that YR says it will be such and such on a specific race day in two months time.  I invariably laugh and no matter how hard I try to explain that we have a maritime and very variable weather pattern I cannot move her.  As I say to her two weeks out most weather forecasts reach 70% probability or higher.  A week out and they are getting close to 90%.   If you are deciding what to wear I suggest she waits until the last 48 hours.  If she wants to choose earlier I suggest that she at least waits until two weeks out and if there are bargains before then buy a hot and a cold one.

Always associated it with Whinging Poms. Do they say that in NZ?  Is very very common in OZ. especially now at cricket Ashes time. The funny thing is this year for a major change,   instead of whinging about the Aussies , weather, and Baggie greens non-stop. They've turned on their 'own' with great volatility 😁 . And a 'Whinging' Non stop about their own Cricket team in the media . ( who are performing poorly so far )    i'm almost hoping they win at Adelaide next week to cheer them up a bit lol. (and keep the series alive for Boxing day)