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Gama, I suspect we are talking at cross purposes. There are the odd horse trainers who have served at HRNZ and the ATC, however I am talking about their skills as trainers, not administrators. How many winners have Brad Steele or Matt Peden trained? There are now no license holders on the HRNZ Board.

Baraqiel has been scratched.

That finish of Tentyris is reminiscent of Chautauqua so yes, he can win

Brodie gets stuck into them all the time .  You don't see well at all  Peter. 😆😉 . Maybe try reading a Few Threads on BOAY .    Who do you think ATC and HRNZ are? Brodie quite happy to call them Basket cases on about , oh lets see?  hundreds of occasions . It's a bit of a running joke actually.  Who do you think works at ATC and HRNZ  ? plenty of horse people. People who love the sport.  Brodie critical to the max old mate. Completely insults them at their jobs constantly . Are you living under a rock and didn't notice?  Alas he Doesn't like Entain helping out either,   nor about 50 other things and organisations. I don't have to suggest anything . It's in plain view across several threads. People (including Chief) don't even bother replying to the trots thread anymore with all that crap on it . I wonder why ?? lol🙄😋  What happens when TOUR PARTY is in $100,000 young guns 6 horse field race shortly as $1.10 favourite. ?  should Can the race  ? . Waste of money?  .It's at the ATC for strters. money could be better used elsewhere? No one can bet on it lol . (should be used for thoroughbreds would be better than you unappreciative lot anyway.)     BUT  don't Run one of the greatest Trot races ever seen with OscarB , Muscle Mountain, Keayang Zahara , Gus and 3 others , possibly the current Interdominion Champ Arcee Phoenix as well. THATS JUST a DISGRACE   PETER.   well done Peter well done. recklessness . lol.       

I am at a loss to understand where you are coming from. As far as I can see, neither Brodie or myself have been critical of our horse people, yet you keep suggesting we are. I have always believed they are some of the best in the World, and have been privileged to know many of them personally. Obviously, your idea of 'tiny' and mine are different, and my issue is that the 'tiny' amount would be much better spent elsewhere, instead of subsidising races for people who have horses that are capable of winning far more than that.

A syndicate headed by Windsor Park Stud, Mapperley Stud & Lion Rock Bloodstock have secured Champion Three-Year-Old SAVAGLEE as he begins the next chapter of his career at stud.   The son of 10-time champion sire Savabeel retires as one of the standout colts of his generation, combining precocity, brilliance and toughness throughout a career that produced seven wins from 900 metres to 1600 metres, along with elite-level performances on both sides of the Tasman.   Prepared by trainer Pam Gerard, Savaglee first signalled his ability early in his two-year-old season winning on debut over 900 metres in the spring at Trentham before establishing himself among the leading juveniles of his crop. A Group One performer at two, Savaglee was successful in the Gr.3 Matamata Slipper at that age. https://bitofayarn.com   Savaglee made significant improvement from two to three and went on to dominate his age group during his classic campaign. His winning sequence included the Gr.2 Hawke’s Bay Guineas, the Gr.2 James & Annie Sarten Memorial, the Gr.1 New Zealand 2000 Guineas and the Gr.2 Levin Classic, confirming him as the leading three-year-old in the country.   His defining performance came in the Gr.1 New Zealand 2000 Guineas at Riccarton where he delivered a crushing victory against the best of his contemporaries. Travelling strongly throughout, Savaglee cruised into the race before accelerating clear to win by three lengths in the third-fastest time ever recorded in the time-honoured classic’s history.   He later stepped up to weight-for-age company against older horses, finishing a meritorious third in the Gr.1 BCD Sprint. Savaglee then crossed the Tasman to contest the Gr.1 Australian Guineas at Flemington where he further enhanced his reputation with a courageous runner-up performance that underlined his ability at the highest level in Australia.https://bitofayarn.com Bred and sold by Waikato Stud, Savaglee is out of Glee, by Champion Broodmare Sire O’Reilly, and comes from a family that has produced multiple champions, including his sister in blood Orchestral together with Aegon and Daffodil. The family’s ongoing strength is further demonstrated by recent Gr.1 winners Atishu and Sepals.   His quality was apparent from the moment he entered the sales ring at the 2023 New Zealand Bloodstock Book 1 Yearling Sale where he was purchased for $400,000 by The Oaks manager Rick Williams on behalf of stud principal Dick Karreman.   A strong, correct and athletic individual, Savaglee stood out as a yearling and has developed into an imposing stallion prospect. Standing at 15.3½ hands, he is correctly made and beautifully balanced, possessing powerful hindquarters, with a great outlook – typical of the best horses by Savabeel. https://bitofayarn.com   His commercial appeal was further highlighted when a sister in blood sold for $2.4 million at Karaka last year, emphasising the strength and demand for the family.   Windsor Park Stud principal Rodney Schick said securing a horse of Savaglee’s quality represented a very exciting opportunity.   “I am really appreciative that Dick Karreman and stud manager Rick Williams have been so good to deal with throughout the process of our negotiations”.   “Dick has invested so much into NZ’s breeding and racing industry over a long period of time with so much success and Savaglee really is testament to that”.   “We’re so thrilled to have secured a colt of Savaglee’s calibre and quality for stud,” Schick said.   Mapperley Stud owner Simms Davison also concurred. https://bitofayarn.com   “I’m really excited to again be involved with Windsor Park and Lion Rock in securing a superb stallion prospect”.   “I loved him when we inspected him at The Oaks, he oozes quality and style and is a magnificent physical. Together with his race performance and pedigree he really is the total stud package”.   Savaglee now offers breeders access to speed, class and one of the most powerful sire lines in the Southern Hemisphere and further details, including a service fee for the 2026 season, will be announced in the coming days.https://bitofayarn.com     0:00 /2:44 1×   View the full article

ENTAIN are a 'Gift horse' to racing. I don't expect you to understand why . I don't agree with much you say at all actually sorry.  I can see you're just total ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT Brodster. anyone in any authority you just can em'  It's a bit of a shame for you as you worry too much about stuff that's not real . Like People in WORKING jobs that they're paid to do have No Business sense???.  they've been very successful .  that doesn't even make sense to start off with . ENtain and HRNZ (for over 100 years) have been very successful companies and employ plenty of fine businessmen and accountants and handicappers and employees that have been successful in Multiple fields of endeavor . I found some of them a pleasure to race horses for like Jim McNeil and Chris Garrard and Alistair Cox NZ and John Devlin NZ . I feel privileged to know such great people that are involved in harness and raced their horses for them. The horsemen themselves ? well that's just Best on the Planet Level Brodster.  I feel like i'm at the top of EVEREST like Sir Edmund Hilary, watching them go  . amazing stuff they do these days. Reading this BOAY forum is like harness is being abbandoned  on Mt Erebus with some DC10  remains.    Do you realize this Slot Trot SHOWS oFF NZ and AUS as the Best Trotting trainers and trotters on the Planet.??  A/ you blokes don't. you want to can the race because of a tiny tiny 200-300 k input by HRNZ ?? lol 🤣 One fellow here saying its a disgrace above above ???  . lol whatta a disgrace that is. Keayang Zahara and Gus and Muscle Mountain racing is a disgrace . qeeez mate . what is wrong with the world . better off firing missiles I spose.  Chief puts at the top of the page BOAY : New Zealand s Premium Pro Racing Forum. Re-name it Chief!!!!  . BOAY:  New Zealand s Premium ANTI-Racing Forum .    

Gamma, you are now agreeing that once Entain pulls the plug on the heavily reduced stakes then harness is knackered! Shame HRNZ hasnt got people in the leadership positions with business sense! Anyway enjoying the Westport racing today. HRNZ can not afford to chuck anything into the slot races and dont need to, but then again it is Entains money until it is gone, and nothing surer than the Ozzies will be back in Oz!

It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the number of mares being bred by the big studs, compared to the so-called hobby breeders