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Four Wise Women opening $4.60 and out to 31.00 WTF is that all about. Yes the trial was ok but that was against horses who would be 101 or above in this field. Was always going to be double figures closing. Wow can not wait for the grass track racing..

the above example was race 9 but race 8 was just as bad.

There is either no money in the pools and a couple of hundred dollars can massively shift the market or they are getting hit all over the place and are plugging holes. I have never seen anything like it tonight with the market moves.

Yes some of the opening prices lately have been ridiculous. Got to be Aussies or computer doing the pricing. They are so bad that if I could get away with it, I think I could make a decent living betting early and cashing out for a profit when the price drops.

If only they were all driving in a 13 horse field. Might be tempted to have a bet.

Thought you would enjoy that. Welcome to the world of AI

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Bosses probably all getting big pay increases when the money comes through. That is what usually happens.

I prefer the good old days... 18 horse fields and mainly standing starts lol

Big businesses prioritize the interest of shareholders unfortunately and that revolves around maximizing profit. Banks are a prime example. They could choose to not make as much money as they do, but instead choose to screw over customers in the pursuit of more profits.

Word on the street is the yield is trending down for harness currently.

Yes thats how they used to do it but the UK style of risk management that has slowly crept in over the years is slash anyone that looks like they can beat you. One of my mates who just shifted to Australia this year opened an account with Ladbrokes when he got over there and not long after put 50EW on a horse at New Plymouth he got told to back. It won and paid $18 and the day after he took his money out he just got an email saying they were closing his account. Thing is he a hopeless punter and would have given that back 10 fold if they let him keep going. He was just unlucky he got lucky just after opening his account. Or his mistake was taking the money out not sure what was the trigger for the account closure. I believe it has the opposite effect they are going for and has dramatically reduced turnover to the point they are now offering every tom dick and harry bonus bets to entice them to spend up. That is a spiraling downward trend over time. Because most punters have a good collect every now and then but if you keep restricting anyone who has good collect you end up restricting everyone. Pretty sure that will happen here sooner than later. Blanket restrictions and bans.

Good point Galah! It doesn't make sense.

The pricing has been terrible for years now. Never been a better time for turning a profit. Hardest part is trying not to to get banned when taking advantage. I need a bigger family group of accounts to use lol. When they get those prices like Moonlight Blood completely wrong on opening they also get a double hit with the attention it gains through the commentators waffling on about it as well as Ben from Betcha etc. If they opened it at its true price of around 5.00 - 6.00 there would have been nowhere near as much bet on it. It may even have gone out in the odds a bit but so many noticed the move they all piled on.

Jones knows — and it's been plain to see for years now — that pouring money into feature races does nothing to support harness racing at the grassroots level. Big money in feature races is a bit like Christmas: a big build-up, a short-lived buzz, and then a return to the same old struggles. The stakes are high for a select few, but the benefits never trickle down to the day-to-day participants who keep the sport running week in, week out.

Just back all their runners even the three legged ones🤣

Telfers have definitely found the same formulae as Emma Stewart

What is annoying is if you are any good they restrict the piss out of you and force you overseas and now they are going to take that away as well. What about the people who make a living from betting? What the fuck are they supposed to do now!

Easy enough to bypass but you need an Australian bank account to be able to do it.

I agree. Throwing more races at the problem doesn't fix it. It is a band aid that could backfire. Horses need a break and winter used to be the best time to do it.

Don't get me wrong I can get a bet on but it is not worth me doing so. Yes the fields are easier to predict but the risk is not worth the reward so I will not bet like many others. Yes you will still get the "bet on two flies running up the wall compulsive gamblers" having a go and I suppose Entain is relying on those punters keeping these meeting viable.

Bigger fields better and the stats prove it. The meetings with the highest turnover are mostly grass tracks. Why? Harder to pick and you need to spend more money to cover the field with exotic bets and therefore the dividends are by default larger. More horses means possibly more moves in a race making them harder to predict. Most punters I know have a bet to make money not throw it away. Hard to make money if the dividends are prohibitive to actually giving you a chance to make a profit. Lower number of horses in a race = lower dividends. Simple math. That is why big fields on grass are all the rage in New Zealand. Everyone is trying to get a slice of those $20,000 first fours and $8000 trifectas. Not to mention the $20,000 quaddies. We don't want the $20 trifectas and $50 first fours the fields at Cambridge are going to throw up tonight. Why risk your money for no reward. Once again the stats will prove it. No one will bet at this meeting the turnover will be proof of that.

If you call a five race meeting fun with none of the fields having more than 8 horses and one of those 5 races a five horse field, then good luck to you. There is no way I am betting at that load of shite and I am willing to bet that is a losing meeting for funding with the turnover nowhere near covering the cost of running it. People may be having fun at their sport but I suppose the people on the Titanic were having fun at some stage too.

So Entain guarantee on retaining staff until June 2025 is almost up. What other goodies are about to hit in June 2025 via the same arrangement?

The fields this week up north can only be described as an abortion. I will not touch them. They are an embarrassment.