Nowornever

Yes but surely it can not be going into the same book...what's the point of having two companies then.

They supposedly have a bookmaker from Betcha doing the fixed odds pre race "where the money is going" bit on trackside. Is this the money that is going on the Betcha fixed odds or Entain? Are the fixed odds now now controlled from Betcha like they are making it out to be on trackside?

I backed the winner using the same theory thinking it would be staying test.... I put a wee bit on at 21 and it got right out to 41 🤦‍♂️

Get Natalie back she had better than a 50% winning strike rate when driving them.

Bloody hell I have been paid out twice at Addington tonight before the results have appeared on the results page. Not good enough ENTAIN

Manawatu mainly used as a training ground by the Telfers so I think their horses will improve quite a bit with a few more runs under their belts. Captains Secret reminds me a bit of Semba who had four starts at Manawatu and only won once. It then won a race at Auckland in 1:54 a few starts later and looked a good horse in the making.

Well he was on six favourites over the two days and ran two thirds with them. You could argue Terry Chmiel is in the same boat in the south. Has had many drives on favourites or near favourite Telfer horses for little result. In fact I have done very well backing against them so far this year. It will be interesting to see if hot favourites Cocktails and Caviar and Akatea can keep their form with Terry driving tomorrow night at Addington. That Akatea race is a great betting race some good value in there and I think Akatea is too short at 1.75.

Doing all they can to attract new customers to get more turnover. 400% deposit match on opening an account. Normally they get desperate with promotions like that when the turnover is not going that good.

So easy to make money there last night. How they opened up Nickle and Dime at 3.00 is nuts. Thankful they did. Got a couple of decent multis ending on it

Used to be pretty good I thought but since coming back from Aussie the horses do not seem to run for him as much as they used to. He has been beaten on at least a dozen 1.50 telfer favourites in the last ten months. I used to be confident on the telfer runners but not when he is driving them now days.

On a brighter note. https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/smith-set-to-honour-greg-sugars-legacy-in-rowe-cup/ Will not be a dry eye in the house if One Over All wins.

Yes tragic news. Gone way too soon.

Doesn't seem real !Greg Sugars passed away last night? https://www.facebook.com/larajayfarm

Yeh that was my gut feel as well. What a waste of time having an inquiry into that. In saying that I was also expecting him to be disqualified because nothing makes sense anymore with some of their decisions. It is never cut and dried even when it is with those guys.

If you could or did get a decent bit of $125,000 you would only do it once because you would be goneburger and never allowed to bet with them again lol

Quinellas and trifectas look ugly in comparison. Can you take 1% Quaddies and first fours? If so those declared dividends would probably be correct if someone only got a few % on betcha.

If you do just back Wigg. She runs rings around the others.

Bookies didn't know obviously

I thought worst affected was the Present Maker and he stayed in fair enough he got some money. Forgiveness not really inconvenienced at all. Galloped on her own after beginning well. Whos Queen also begun well and did not affect her performance. Starter should have been fined for the dogs breakfast of a stand as usual. If it comes down to a call using someones opinion whether a horse gets late scratched then they should sack that person as he/her is hugely inconsistent. This is becoming ridiculous. Never used to be as many late scratching as there is these days. FFS it is a part of gambling. You take your chances in a race if you get bad luck so be it. All the exotic dividends dropped 30% because of the late scratchings. Turnover also pulled out of the pools when they need everything they can get.

Interesting the front line limits say 10 on the website

Yes

Did you test a self service machine or a terminal at the counter? Yes the self service machines appear to be better. The touch screens on the terminals according to the TAB staff have been a pain in the arse.

The TAB never think about the flow on effects for many of their idiotic decisions. When you limit betting opportunities and shut down the potential for big payouts, you also kill the excitement and mystique that surrounds those rare, life-changing collects. The buzz disappears, fewer people talk about them, and the dream of landing a big win fades. That ripple effect doesn’t grow the game—it shrinks it.

Has anybody had issues with the new terminals appearing at TABs around the country. I happened to be in there when an old lady was getting some money out of her account and my god what a performance. With these new machines you have to put your account number and pin into a touch screen on the terminal. This old lady was not very tall and with the flat touch panel and from where she was looking it was impossible. It took her at least half a dozen attempts to get the correct numbers into the machine. The people in the line behind her were getting pissed off to the point a couple of them gave up and walked out. Whoever ordered these terminals did not do their due diligence on how people use them and the issues that might arise. Later when talking to the TAB guy behind the machine he said it was a common occurrence and not many people got their details right the first time when inputting their account numbers.

Stopping the pick six and place six also stopped a lot of punters in my opinion. Where they once competed with lotto they can not do that anymore. Give us some bet types that will pay hundreds of thousands not thousands to get those players back in the game.