Nowornever

Where do you set up your social profile? Can not see an option for that in the settings.

Yes that is the main point of difference I can see.

It's like getting blood out of a stone with Brodie 🤣

Those same options have been automatically available on the multi bets at the TAB for quite a while.

Yes the Betcha website are presumably fixed odds dividends at closing prices which will be normally way lower than tote. Up to 50% worse in some cases. As a comparison the first race at invercargill Victoria divs which are basically our tote divs Quinella 4-9 $56.10 Exacta 4-9 $273.40 Trifecta 4-9-8 $794.00 First Four 4-9-8-6 $1,735.30 Jackpot $740.04 Betcha Divs Quinella 4, 9 $36.00 Exacta 4, 9 $71.00 Trifecta 4, 9, 8 $476.00 First Four 4, 9, 8, 6 $1151.00 Good luck betting on Betcha racing with those differences

Maybe lets hope so anyway. Brodie can you start an account and let us know the results.

Good idea we can take bets on how long it takes before he gets the push. Might even not be able to open an account if it already has a red flag on it.

One difference would be if you made any money at all on Betcha it would be an instant ban not just a restriction. I have faced this UK lot before in Australia and there is no leniency in their policies. It is almost like Saddam Hussein has risen from the dead and is now running their risk department. I am guessing weeks not months before we start hearing stories of draconian measures.

It is a copy of the current TAB site. Is betting on racing included in the New Zealand tote pools or is everything fixed odds? Are they offering this to the rest of the world or only New Zealand? I can not see the point of joining if you are already with the TAB, What advantages would there be. The TAB website is already terrible, Having two of them open at the same time would double the pain.

I loved the coverage without the drone footage.

Black type means nothing these days. Every horse can run 1.58 at Ashburton and most of them better than 1:56. The stud book needs an overhaul as well.

Yes my confidence in them is at an all time low as well.

The odd race now and then but if all races turned into mile racing like the states I would give up. The reason I spend at harness racing is the variety of distances plus horses coming from different areas. If it turns into same old horses going round the same distances and 1.40 favourites the game is over for me.

From Harnesslink interview with Brad Steele https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/lets-walk-the-talk/ When asked about racing over shorter distances and only from mobiles, Steele says he’s interested in testing the status quo on everything. “We always need to have an understanding of what impact it’ll have on wagering. I don’t know the numbers around wagering on stand starts versus mobile but what I do know, is I would love to see more mile racing. It’s not possible on every track but I think we do need to have less distance races which may encourage horses to have maybe three starts in a month rather than two. FFS these guys are on different planet to me with their ways to fix harness racing. Your thoughts Brodie?

I am with Brodie on this one and I think it is terrible.

Yet NZ are programming more boring races and putting the emphasis on big-ticket races at the expense of lower-grade ones. Weak funding for grassroots events will cause small-scale trainers and owners, who are crucial to the sport to die a slow death. I am in this basket as are many others I have talked to who are giving up on harness racing ownership in the face of rising inflation while stakes for low grade races are not increasing enough to support rising costs.

TAB I bet is full of arrogant managers who think they know best. Even though it makes complete sense to most, the idea someone else having a better idea than them makes them push back on it rather than act on it.

Yes I agree but logic does not enter the conversation when the TAB are involved.

I am waiting for the live behind the horses camera angle or from front on as they are nearing the finish line. Its about the only stupid thing they have left to try so it must be on their radar. Why is it so hard to stick to the tried and true camera angles that everyone is used too that has worked effectively for the last 30 years.

Never underestimate the juice

They are trying to create more turnover but Odds Surge max bet $100. Piss weak.

FFS yep exactly as I thought. This new guy is thinking of slot races as the savior of harness racing. Fuck it is so predictable it is makes me sick. Lets just follow the same old things day after day and forget about getting more foals on the ground, looking after the small guys in ownership and training. I am one of the bigger spenders in punting and like Brodie I couldn't give a fuck about slot races. Give us more grass track racing and more stakes for lower class races you clowns

Well its more than I can get on at the moment.

Brodie lets hope this policy gets some momentum for New Zealand as well. Entain get your act together and do the same or better for NZ Punters. From today, all approved off-course Australian wagering service providers will have a broader range of requirements when offering Victorian harness racing markets. Having previously been required to stand to lose $1000 on Victorian metropolitan meetings win bets and $500 on Victorian country meetings win bets, the policy has been beefed up to include further requirements for wagering service providers. They are: $2000 win and $800 place minimum bet limits for all Group 1 races $1000 win and $400 place minimum bet limits for metropolitan races $500 wins and $200 place minimum bet limits for non-metropolitan races Harness Racing Victoria Chief Commercial Officer Glenn Lee said HRV wanted to ensure punters were given “a fair go”.

You have to laugh at O'Connor, Cross and Whale when they try to analyze the way the race will be run and mention half the field and then it is run completely different and two of the horses they don't mention run in the first three. Better entertainment than the races.