Nowornever

Occasionally the tips are ok but I always check the bigger price moves to see if it s a boys get paid or whale tip. If you don't like their selection then there is always value in something else because the market is skewed by the weight of money from the social media. I make more money backing against their tips than backing them. In fact I hope they tip something against one I like as the money on mine always blows out and you can get plenty on because the TAB is offsetting the risk and always takes your bet.

Winter racing can be like that I have found. Either hot favourites and no value or complete blowouts who you couldn't pick. I just close down my betting June, July and August and wait for spring racing to start.

Or both 😂

An opinion can not be a misrepresentation or can it?

Everything they said was factual even the opinion of the chances which going on the last three starts without knowing the quality of the fields it has been racing is quite believable. Like I said they do not know the ability of the horse they are commenting on, they only know the form which is 05955.

Plenty of use to the TAB not for the punters. Use it to your advantage.

Opened at 4s. The bookies might be AI generating the prices as well or they are just useless.

Yeh the pub punter looking at that wouldn't touch it. Like I said might boost the multis and tote divs

Yes they have been produced/written by someone who also does the same job for gallops and dog races so it is just generic text. They have probably never even heard of the horses and actually do not even care about the horses previous form. Actually a great move by bookmakers worldwide as it gives the punter not much of an idea and they make more money. I think it is great and gives someone who knows their stuff a much better chance of making money especially if you bet on the tote, where you only have to be better than the other mugs betting to make money.

They are not harness analysts who provide these comments. More likely a data analyst just putting in some text around what they see in the form. Will soon be done by AI if it isn't already. Entain has no interest in providing you winners through the comments. They are in the business of giving you losers not winners so completely ignore the form and comments on the site.

Do they ever? They don't wake up unless there is a lower rated driver whipping 10.5 times instead of 10. Then they will have the magnifying glass out in front of the video and then the guy tied up in the chair trying to get a confession.

No they are terrible.

Yes wasn't going to have a bet as I thought Hadron Collider would just lead and win in the 3yo race, until I saw the money drift and a ton of money come for the stablemate. I knew then they were not going forward at the start with Hadron and he couldn't win coming from the back so had a wee nibble on Harrison John. Stable had that one worked out well before hand 😂

I never had any to start with.

Why don't more drivers get a running start like Craig Ferguson did on the winner of this race. Just hang back 10 lengths and then as they are lining up start sprinting and you get a huge advantage at full speed while the rest are just getting started. Not the first time I have seen this and there is obviously no penalty for it with the weak stipes, so looks like a loophole at the start for drivers who do this.

Yes never heard of people getting banned for tote betting. Fixed odds is a different story as any consistent winnings by customers comes straight off their bottom line.

Fixed odds trifectas are not linked to the tote pool for trifectas but the algorithm errs on the side of caution and works out a trifecta dividend 30-40% lower than it should be.

Fixed odds trifecta bets are a waste of time, the algorithm has them priced about 75% of what they would usually pay or less sometimes.

Because I can double dip on the same trifecta dividend. As an example lets say I get 1 dollar worth of a 1000 trifecta off four different bookmakers then I am getting $4000 but if I tried to get four dollars of the trifecta on the NZ pool that only has 4000 in it the dividend would only be $500 or less I am only going to get $2000 if I am lucky. Probably another one of the reasons Ladbrokes is getting rid of the NZ customers in Aussie.

Yes Ladbrokes and a number of other bookmakers I think do not bet into a tote pool for Trifectas. Even though they use the Victoria dividends as the price there would be no takeout. If you win anything it is off their bottom line.

If they price one up wrong at 5 or 6 a place when it should be 2.50 it lifts the exotics up quite a bit as well.

Opened with $100 turned into 6K profit in about 4 weeks during the grass track racing in Canterbury Probably had 100 to 150 bets over that month around 10% were quinellas and about 90% trifectas. They were quite happy to let me bet but not that happy when I tried to take it out. I am guessing they were hoping I would lose it again but pulled the pin when I withdrew $500 as a test run. Quite easy to make money if you know what you are doing Newmarket just ask Brodie. You just have to be better than the bookmakers as they are not that good at pricing up the markets.

Never had a bet on either win or place. All money won was via quinellas and trifectas. Ladbrokes are a bunch of arrogant wankers going by their emails to me when closing me down.

About a month. As soon as I tried to withdraw some of my winnings I got an email from them saying after a review we have decided your account will be closed. They sent me the funds out of the account after a week of waiting and never answered any of my emails again. Not long after I got banned emails from two of their subsidiaries I was with as well. I think I turned $100 into about $6K and that pissed them off.

Along with Ladbrokes I was also banned from all of their subsidiaries as well.