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TAB I bet is full of arrogant managers who think they know best. Even though it makes complete sense to most, the idea someone else having a better idea than them makes them push back on it rather than act on it.

Yes I agree but logic does not enter the conversation when the TAB are involved.

I am waiting for the live behind the horses camera angle or from front on as they are nearing the finish line. Its about the only stupid thing they have left to try so it must be on their radar. Why is it so hard to stick to the tried and true camera angles that everyone is used too that has worked effectively for the last 30 years.

Never underestimate the juice

They are trying to create more turnover but Odds Surge max bet $100. Piss weak.

FFS yep exactly as I thought. This new guy is thinking of slot races as the savior of harness racing. Fuck it is so predictable it is makes me sick. Lets just follow the same old things day after day and forget about getting more foals on the ground, looking after the small guys in ownership and training. I am one of the bigger spenders in punting and like Brodie I couldn't give a fuck about slot races. Give us more grass track racing and more stakes for lower class races you clowns

Well its more than I can get on at the moment.

Brodie lets hope this policy gets some momentum for New Zealand as well. Entain get your act together and do the same or better for NZ Punters. From today, all approved off-course Australian wagering service providers will have a broader range of requirements when offering Victorian harness racing markets. Having previously been required to stand to lose $1000 on Victorian metropolitan meetings win bets and $500 on Victorian country meetings win bets, the policy has been beefed up to include further requirements for wagering service providers. They are: $2000 win and $800 place minimum bet limits for all Group 1 races $1000 win and $400 place minimum bet limits for metropolitan races $500 wins and $200 place minimum bet limits for non-metropolitan races Harness Racing Victoria Chief Commercial Officer Glenn Lee said HRV wanted to ensure punters were given “a fair go”.

You have to laugh at O'Connor, Cross and Whale when they try to analyze the way the race will be run and mention half the field and then it is run completely different and two of the horses they don't mention run in the first three. Better entertainment than the races.

Pity the tab form guide is a complete waste of time. I might have had a bet if I could spend the hours deciphering my way through the terrible layout.

FFS it does not take much to hoodwink the stipes. It was off three wide and working hard from the 1000 and parked for the last 900m today as well. 😂 IDEAL CHEVRON - when questioned regarding the improved performance connections advised the gelding had benefited from an economical run throughout after having to work hard when racing in the parked position at its previous start.

The more meetings the faster the horses go through the grades and get sold over seas. There will be a constant battle filling the fields to make the product inviting enough to bet. I used to bet quite a bit down south but recently it is just the same old horses running around in small fields which is a big turn off for me.

Probably this years New Zealand Cup winner.

Don't hold your breath.

Race 2 at Addington a prime example. They have no idea. A good pricer should be rated on how close their opening odds get to the closing odds.

The odds have flattened overall. Not sure if it the bookmakers setting the odds or if it is more computer generated now, but if it is humans still doing it they have no confidence in their own ability as the opening odds are being kept very flat and by that I mean the spread is now an average of 2.00 to 41 on opening as compared to 1.80 to 101 a few years ago. They are trying to keep the whole middle market safe with a lot of horses way under the odds on opening. Those races with larger even fields they really have no idea sometimes and you can tell how badly they price a market by the amount of movement in the odds in the middle market from open to close. If there are a lot of movers in the market then they have priced it horribly wrong and there was value somewhere.

I agree racing will suffer and sports will be propping them up. To make more profit you either increase turnover or cut expenses or ideally both. To cut expenses they will get rid of staff and get more automated but this will be detrimental to their service. They will be more active on restricting anyone that wins or even looks like they might be winning on fixed odds. To increase turnover they will hand out bonus bets like they are going out of fashion to newbies, losing punters and as incentives to join people up and start spending. They will probably start offering virtual racing or online casino type games at some stage. They keep promising exciting new bet types but have seen nothing yet to get me interested in spending more money. If they start offering first fives or first sixes then I might give them a go. Bringing back the pick six would also get me spending more.

Very easy to run the bookmaking side from Aussie. Once the market is open the computers handle the trading side adjustments. Even a monkey could set the opening odds if they don't let people on for much until the liquidity builds up in the market. Pools already decreasing since Entain came on and turnover must be well down.

Stipes running out of things to do, so lets ask some dumb questions. CAPTAIN KOBE - when questioned regarding the improved performance trainer S Dolan advised the gelding had appreciated a drop in calibre of horses from recent racing and had trained on well since its last start. Finished five lengths from the winner last start after working hard and today beats a much weaker field. Everybody including the public who made the horse a hot favourite could see why it won and it was not an improved performance it went slower today than it did the last start so in actual fact it was a worse performance.

I agree tote pool down a huge % since the new website. Almost not worth betting on the exotics now.

Been trouble for me all night. Website has almost been worse since Entain took over.

The average punter sees 1 month vs 2 days for the same offense in the report. They don't even know Neil is an amateur how would they work out the inconsistency you just explained?

And your thoughts on: Star Magic ran fifth and sixth previous two starts and was less than three lengths from the winner in both and was single figures on the tote. STAR MAGIC - when questioned regarding the improved performance trainer/driver G Smith advised the gelding had benefited from a brief freshen up after feeling the effects of recent racing and had been working well in preparation for today's race. Yet the second horse Lord Mudrick who was close to the rank outsider paying the same for a place as the win price for the winner and in its previous two starts had finished eight and ninth with losing margins of 11.5 len and 6.5len was never questioned. Even worse this horse had gone back in its last three starts from good draws but this time is driven out of the gate like a madman from a wide alley.

While I am a rant at the Repressive Inconsistency Unit is this just another miserable attempt at a token ask the question on why did the horse improve or did they actually get the wrong horse. Star Magic ran fifth and sixth previous two starts and was less than three lengths from the winner in both and was single figures on the tote. STAR MAGIC - when questioned regarding the improved performance trainer/driver G Smith advised the gelding had benefited from a brief freshen up after feeling the effects of recent racing and had been working well in preparation for today's race. Yet the second horse Lord Mudrick who was close to the rank outsider paying the same for a place as the win price for the winner and in its previous two starts had finished eight and ninth with losing margins of 11.5 len and 6.5len was never questioned. Even worse this horse had gone back in its last three starts from good draws but this time is driven out of the gate like a madman from a wide alley. Once again no consistency for the punters.

Neil Munro 7 Starts this year for 1 win and 1 third. Steve Trotter 11 starts this year for 1 third. Yet the penalties look obscene when you compare them. Thoughts?