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If the gaps had opened up she would have been a genius. A lot of luck in a good and bad drive sometimes. Personally I hate it when a driver sits three deep the pegs has no patience and comes off at the turn only to get beaten by the horse on the fence who was sitting behind him. I could start a thread on that and there would be at least 2 or 3 every meeting.
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Wrong decision for sure but nine times out of ten she would run top three at Cambridge from that position on the turn. Two things against her tonight, slushy track plus the leaders were stopping quickly in the pacing races. The racing up North at the moment is a waste of time as evidenced by the miserable pool amounts. Luckily the grass track racing is starting up this weekend in the south and I can open the wallet again and have a decent go.
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Mmm where can I short the stock!
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The problem you have is mostly CEOs and managers don't like other people coming up with ideas that are not their own. This is not a harness industry only problem. Great idea The Galah it gets my vote.
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Terrible exotic prices compared to tote up to 70% less in some cases. Fixed odds the same and not sure on sport but probably same odds. Only benefit is the social media side which is interesting but even that will take a while to kick off.
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Incorrect. I live for these sort of races because it so hard to pick for the average punter. Bigger dividends attract my dollar a lot more than a 1.50 favourite in an 8 horse field. That is one of the reasons that grass is so popular for punters. Also the racing in summer months is a lot better with the variation in horse form with horses coming from different tracks, grass to grit and grit to grass creates a better base for punting rather than the boring same horses racing the same horses on the same tracks all the time. Of course raising the number of horses currently racing is the key but If I were running the show I would be trying to create variation in the racing fields by attracting horses to race further away from their normal venues. Why don't they run some 15-20K maiden races a couple of weeks in a row at various venues and get trainers to travel. HRNZ could subsidize travel to make it more attractive. I agree with Galahs thoughts on creating a training base especially if it included a new grass racetrack. Resurrect another Hororata or something similar in that area halfway between Ashburton and Chch. Have a 2000m track or bigger with a 400m straight to make the racing more even instead of these 150m sprints up the straight. If Entain are so keen to throw money around then it could be called the Entain Raceway or Entain Harness Complex. Bring on major sponsors I am sure it could be done if the right people were behind it.
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The last two are what will fix harness racing in my opinion. Also put a tax on all horses sold overseas (eg $5K) and put the money back into lower stakes. Try to retain horses here for longer. FFS going on the article on HRNZ today about the Tuesday meetings they are quite happy about the numbers. "We had planned for six races over the first six weeks and to get the numbers we have is very encouraging," says HRNZ Chief Executive Officer Brad Steele.
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Seven races no field size bigger than 8 runners and four of them only have six runners. FFS this is a sick joke isn't it! Yet they will not fix the lower class racing and just keep pouring money into the bigger stakes racing hoping it will fix itself. Why would you think about owning a horse or start training in the hope you might be the 0.005% of the people that actually win one of those races while spending a fortune to do it. At the moment it is becoming even more of an elitists sport run by elitist people.
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Yes you are correct, only in app.
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Where do you set up your social profile? Can not see an option for that in the settings.
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Yes that is the main point of difference I can see.
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It's like getting blood out of a stone with Brodie 🤣
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Those same options have been automatically available on the multi bets at the TAB for quite a while.
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Yes the Betcha website are presumably fixed odds dividends at closing prices which will be normally way lower than tote. Up to 50% worse in some cases. As a comparison the first race at invercargill Victoria divs which are basically our tote divs Quinella 4-9 $56.10 Exacta 4-9 $273.40 Trifecta 4-9-8 $794.00 First Four 4-9-8-6 $1,735.30 Jackpot $740.04 Betcha Divs Quinella 4, 9 $36.00 Exacta 4, 9 $71.00 Trifecta 4, 9, 8 $476.00 First Four 4, 9, 8, 6 $1151.00 Good luck betting on Betcha racing with those differences
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Maybe lets hope so anyway. Brodie can you start an account and let us know the results.
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Good idea we can take bets on how long it takes before he gets the push. Might even not be able to open an account if it already has a red flag on it.
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One difference would be if you made any money at all on Betcha it would be an instant ban not just a restriction. I have faced this UK lot before in Australia and there is no leniency in their policies. It is almost like Saddam Hussein has risen from the dead and is now running their risk department. I am guessing weeks not months before we start hearing stories of draconian measures.
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It is a copy of the current TAB site. Is betting on racing included in the New Zealand tote pools or is everything fixed odds? Are they offering this to the rest of the world or only New Zealand? I can not see the point of joining if you are already with the TAB, What advantages would there be. The TAB website is already terrible, Having two of them open at the same time would double the pain.
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Dickheads! Stop using that stupid drone at Addington!!
Nowornever replied to Brodie's topic in Trotting Chat
I loved the coverage without the drone footage. -
Black type means nothing these days. Every horse can run 1.58 at Ashburton and most of them better than 1:56. The stud book needs an overhaul as well.
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Yes my confidence in them is at an all time low as well.
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The odd race now and then but if all races turned into mile racing like the states I would give up. The reason I spend at harness racing is the variety of distances plus horses coming from different areas. If it turns into same old horses going round the same distances and 1.40 favourites the game is over for me.
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From Harnesslink interview with Brad Steele https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/lets-walk-the-talk/ When asked about racing over shorter distances and only from mobiles, Steele says he’s interested in testing the status quo on everything. “We always need to have an understanding of what impact it’ll have on wagering. I don’t know the numbers around wagering on stand starts versus mobile but what I do know, is I would love to see more mile racing. It’s not possible on every track but I think we do need to have less distance races which may encourage horses to have maybe three starts in a month rather than two. FFS these guys are on different planet to me with their ways to fix harness racing. Your thoughts Brodie?
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Dickheads! Stop using that stupid drone at Addington!!
Nowornever replied to Brodie's topic in Trotting Chat
I am with Brodie on this one and I think it is terrible. -
Yet NZ are programming more boring races and putting the emphasis on big-ticket races at the expense of lower-grade ones. Weak funding for grassroots events will cause small-scale trainers and owners, who are crucial to the sport to die a slow death. I am in this basket as are many others I have talked to who are giving up on harness racing ownership in the face of rising inflation while stakes for low grade races are not increasing enough to support rising costs.