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At least if more Canterbury horses were involved there would be variation in form and bigger fields. Bigger dividends and more even contests creates more turnover in my opinion, but these guys are working on the Albion Park style of racing which is 7 horse fields and 1.50 favourites which is a total turnoff for me. Fair enough if they are trying to keep the money in Southland but not good for the overall industry.

Not really the prices between opening and closing have never been so far apart which is good for the punter. The odds setters are running scared as they have been burnt so many times. They are opening the prices at a more even spread, but the issue for them doing that and trying not to get burnt on every horse is the prices start creeping further and further from their true price. You just need to look at the opening prices of some of the outsiders. They will open them at 41.00 even if they are realistically a $100 dividend, and then a couple of hours after opening they will drift out to 101 or longer. Same applies to the favourites, realistic 1.80 chances are opening at 2.40 or longer sometimes. There is great value on many runners at every meeting because of this. Rule of thumb is back outsiders late and if you can recognize value on the favourites back them early.

If you are good enough they do not let you bet top four, the option is just missing from your account when you log in. Same with other bet types (eg same race multis). They let you on to win 2K but it is for win only (so if you are backing a $20 horse then they will let you bet $100 max and then the next bet you put will be at $12 and the next at $6). Good luck trying to win 2k for a place if you are on their watch list. I know a guy who is not a big bettor (A $25 bet would be big for him) and he is severely restricted on all fixed odds bets because he had a good run for a few weeks in a row. Guessing their risk team looks at over all profit first then the ratio of bets placed to winning bets before bringing down the ban hammer on those who cross the line. Whatever you do, do not back four or five double figure winners in a row. That would be a death blow to your account. They are text book copying the UK system of profile everyone via betting patterns and restrict sharp punters.

You can only bet Top 4 through account as far as I know.

Unfortunately because they are not that good at setting the odds they have to stop punters winning to offset their bad pricing. It is a game of cat and mouse trying to get on at the good prices for me and at the moment I am winning.

Easy to make money the way they have been pricing. It is like taking candy off a baby.

Well he does keep saying we have received some big bets here at Betcha and never talks about Entain so not sure what is going on. Is it fraudulent talk if the bets have actually been taken at Entain and they are misrepresenting them being put on through Betcha. Can anyone enlighten us as to the the structure of these organizations, in particular the whether there is one fixed odds pool or there are two separate markets?

I would bet on more races if the fields were bigger. I refuse to bet on any field with eight horses or less.

Too little too late. They were of some interest a few years ago when someone could put 10K on and people would go "Wow" These latest bet alerts are only alerting punters to how much of a joke the restrictions have tainted what used to be a thriving industry.

These small fields are a real turn off for the punter. Why not run them as none totes so we don't have to put up with watching them? Hope everyone made a ton of money on this one LOL

Looks like a roll back a few days... A few posts missing it seems

What has changed? The result used to be up almost straight away after the judge declared the placings. Now we are waiting up to 15mins. Not good enough. We should be moving forward not back to the dark ages where the placings are put through via Morse code

Addington ridiculously slow at getting dividends posted again tonight

Winter racing is like that. Most serious punters close up shop over the winter months. Short favourites mixed with the odd $50.00 longshot you didn't see coming. Not my cup of tea.

His horses do step pretty good. I guess coincidentally they are all in that 40-50 rating gap. The rating 40 to 53 mobile looks a much stronger field. Good chance he will get the first four home in that 1st race

The whole thing has become a farce. Has anyone ever actually been charged after being asked to explain an improved performance? If not, then what's the point? It's hard to take it seriously when it seems like just a box-ticking exercise for the stewards. Asking the question without ever following through makes the whole process look weak and pointless.

Yes the recent trial was good and the drivers can say whatever they want if questioned and it is believed, but if there was ever a question needed to be asked that day it was that horse. Supposed integrity but I am rolling my eyes at that one.

True but there is too much inconsistency. Why was there no question asked of Downtown Orlando and the improved showing in race 8. Don't tell me it is because it ran 5th in its last start because that is a load of horse shit. Is was second last and struggling to keep up 21.5 lengths from the winner and all it previous 8 starts were further back than ninth. If they can not see that is not an an improved run then they truly do not have any awareness of how horses perform. If they want to hide behind some ridiculous rule that if a horse finishes 5th it is a good run then they are making themselves look like idiots in situations like this.

I think the problem is I doubt the stipes even realized this had occurred. Certainly would not surprise me if they didn't as there are a lot of things worth mentioning even more obvious than this that never get addressed either. They will watching this thinking what is Galah on about then go oh I see! Oh well too late now.

Mmm I can't think of many. As a punter we have lost the pick six, all up bets, dwindling tote pools, more restrictions, website still playing up, slower results, no place divs on trackside plus more. What have we gained apart from same race multis, top four and money back odds, which is not really a positive if you are not allowed to bet on them.

Yes hard to see where they were from the angles but I think that Robyns Hustler was actually almost three wide at that stage. You can see a bigger gap than normal between the fence runners and the outside horses coming into the bend the first time around.

They have tried to get rid of the small punter for years (eg removing phone betting for the older punters with no tech knowledge, radio, free to air tv etc) and now they are wanting the small punters back. They have finally gone full circle.

Yes they just take away the options like top four, and other fixed bet types when you log into your account. It is like they don't exist. Can still bet on tote but not most fixed options.

Boost the turnover with your own money and report the turnover is up. Everyone is overjoyed at the news. Genius plan but will it last! Do they have to pay tax on the bonus money people spend or is that a loophole they can get around?

As long as the Aussie guys keep doing the pricing. The gap between opening and closing odds is night and day. It is almost like the computer is doing it based on form or something. I have never seen it so good for the punters.