Murray Fish

General admission: $20.00 Ascot Stand: $70.00 Garden Party: $59.00 Cavallo Club: $90.00 Silks: $119.00 prices for Karka night at Els..... how does Trentham stack up with this sort of thing?

As a person with a interest in 'racing history' etc that causes pangs of nostalgia, but in my rational brain I know it doesn't actually make much difference with my punting! if anything it should actually help!

....please don't talk about the elephant on course!!! ? or was that not on course?

at least when Ned Kelly Robbed you he had a Gun... NZTAB do it with a sneer...

yip, that be my tip! Re Betting in general: I'm always amused regarding our ever struggled with 'cognitive bias', with betting, I think we attach some winning logic to some historical wins! when I first started betting it was into very much into local pools! who had limited information! I still so recall being at Addinton (early 70's) and the Odds would get put up the Main Tote Board, NO ONE knew what those odds would be! you had then 35 minutes to change them! to finish with a Tip before the race!!! I Bet I Enjoy the NZ G1 Today! Regardless of whom wins! lol! Though I do have one in mind!

I would love to have seen the 'logic' behind going this way???

To be honest, my style of betting has changed where the races like this have not been that attractive! often if there has been a horse which appeals! then it's way under the odds.. give me WFA or set weights for 3yr etc... re NZ Handicaps, they more and more offer le$$ interest! gone are the large interest in always trying to find the winner of the 3200 races... esp Auckland Cup and races like Railway... way gone now...

tick... lol! you should be more tolerant and enjoy him sitting at the table! $omeone has to be losing... ?

should the jockeys have to share how the will tactically use this info?

wow... how could that happen? I would have to admit I use to really like being oncourse back last century for those meetings!! A track where you thought a good horse could always win! It has seem that the crowd numbers were not that great, watching from the tv???

and your BMI?

A suggested goal for you this year... try and really focus on actual needed criticism on 'things racing'. I'm 100% sure you would curry favour with more if you go down that track. ps. Mardi, you got some good stuff

doh, can't get the format to post in a readable way... https://loveracing.nz/raceinfo/48699/meeting-overview.aspx The race I'm asking about is the Trentham Stakes. Jackstar rating 80, weight 57kg Dolcetta rating 99, weight 55kg Dee and Gee rating 95, weight 54kg

6 3:41 pm BARNESWOOD FARM TRENTHAM STAKES OPN-SW&P 2100m - $70,000Open /Close # Silk Form Horse 1 09749 Jacksstar(8g Zed - Star Guest) 2 34483 Dolcetto(7g Per Incanto (USA) - Our Shiraz) 3 30172 Fiscal Fantasy (AUS)(5m Skilled (AUS) - Villa Igea (AUS)) 4 00101 Camino Rocoso(6g Shocking (AUS) - Our Centasea (AUS)) 5 X8025 Hunta Pence(7g No Excuse Needed (GB) - Vanitas) 6 74182 Sergeant Blast(7g Darci Brahma - Glittering Girl) 7 X2132 Masetto(4g Cape Blanco (IRE) - Passchendaele) 8 29768 King Of The Dance (AUS)(5g Animal Kingdom (USA) - Spirited Dancer (IRE)) 9 85506 Kamanda Lincoln(6g Savabeel (AUS) - Our Careyes (IRE)) 10 35215 Dee And Gee(6m Darci Brahma - Gabana) 11 38616 Artiste(6m Mastercraftsman (IRE) - Maidjeu) 12 62401 Amorata(7m Per Incanto (USA) - Alyssum) FIELDS QUICK TRIALS GEAR Barrier Stats ›Download PDF › Draw RTG WGT Jockey Trainer Win Place 3 80 57.0 Michael McNab Gary Vile - - 7 99 55.5 Rosie Myers Sylvia Kay - - 4 98 55.0 Leith Innes Frank Ritchie - - 8 91 55.0 Chris Johnson John & Karen Parsons - - 6 90 55.0 Samantha Collett Patrick Campbell - - 11 88 55.0 Lisa Allpress Sam Lennox - - 2 81 55.0 Cameron Lammas Michael Moroney & Pam Gerard - - 5 73 55.0 Ryan Elliot Terrill Charles & Peter Corbett - - 9 71 55.0 Sam Weatherley (a) Lisa Latta - - 10 95 54.0 Leah Hemi Terrill Charles & Peter Corbett - - 1 84 53.0 Craig Grylls Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman - - 12 77 53.0 Robert Hannam Roydon Bergerson - -

for what it's worth! It was gutless behaviour by those involved! a typical 'anti intellectual' stance, from a Industry well known for it!

Smallest crowd this century! 10 years ago when it was free to get in the crowd was Massive! 5 times more than the other day! 10 bucks to get in! 5 bucks for a race book!

anyone managed to read the stipes report? I couldn't get it to open!

odd$ on!! the ever Increasing Entrance cost$ are behind this stat!!!

The following key statistics show the current state of the NZ thoroughbred racing industry and the challenges it is facing: The thoroughbred foal crop has declined by 22.0% over the last 10 years and individual thoroughbred starters in NZ have declined by 18.6% over the same period. There are 16.8% fewer thoroughbred races run in New Zealand now compared to 10 years ago. Domestic turnover on NZ thoroughbred racing has declined by 14.4% in 10 years. On-course attendance at NZ thoroughbred meetings has fallen by 22.3% in the last 6 years. The average ownership share size has declined from 27.4% to 19.8% since FY09 The average age of the thoroughbred owner has increased from 54 to 57 in 10 years. New racehorse owners are not being provided with an experience that will attract a long-term interest (only 1 in 4 new owners are advocates of horse ownership) Pressure on up to 4 NZ Group 1 races

A few decades ago! (sigh) I often brought up the subject with the then CEO about the need (amongst other thing like Union coverage of workers, as in au) for some form of 'punters association', funded via 'lo$t ticket$'!!! for various reasons 'we' could not get them to buy in... the last one I brought it up with was Paul Buttar (sp), he good see the merit! being a punter himself!

yes.... the key to anything like that (especially if it is the recreational use) is NOT to get caught! as then you have to go to Court!

I had been wondering about that... having heard a negative thing or two... can put you up if needed!

a thread with open and honest chat!!!!! safe travels for thingmi$$$... may you even find a winner or two!!!

I think it it fare to say that we are very much living a Capitalist country/economy! it be amusing to see it suggested the reds had got out from under the beds! and that they have taken over at Head Office! lol! last time I had a chat with Winnie 100% I was the Red and he the Blue! If you were actually wanting to take a 'socialist' approach!! then you would actually start by taking over the Studs, nationalise them! That way you could drive down the cost of producing the horse big time!

by chance! on my facebook page, the anniversary of his Public Apology to 'a great leader' came up to reread! It made for amusing reading!