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Sydney Cup probably a better betting opportunity. I know it had excuses last start but even for a lame horse, that was shocking.

Meanwhile apprentice jockeys have a hard time a) staying balanced and b) being "able" to use the whip and still control the horse. They should do this kind of prep work before ever riding race day.

Even the sports side of the site is rubbish.

Sunline could have stayed in NZ/Aus, but she took on the world 3 times. She scored what was considered her best win in the Hong Kong Mile and was defeated twice overseas, but did that put a dent in her record? Definitely not - it only made her fans love her even more. Taking on Fairy King Prawn and Jim & Tonic in the Duty Free... finishing third despite being taken on the entire trip. Those are the runs that garner respect. Imagine what FKP and J&T would do to the current crop (excluding Winx) in Australia. They'd be beating Hartnell and Avilius by 8-10 lengths

She could run backwards and still win the QEII. I guess it's always been the case than Australasian horses have to go over there and beat them. Their best middle-distance horses have never travelled to Australia... yet, their 2nd/3rd stringers come and make a fool of racing down under. Makes you wonder just how good their top young thoroughbreds are.

And it will get more credit for doing so. I love connections that are willing to travel. Sure, the easy money is at home, but it's all about life experiences, especially for owners (Ms Inglis) who don't need the money.

I've said many times she can only beat what's in front of her. My criticism is of the connections and always has been. I have no doubt she would beat the likes of Enable, Beauty Generation etc etc - but we'll never know! Instead we get to see her line up against mostly her stablemates.

Barry - based on your prize money argument, Redzel must be better than Black Caviar was? Of course not..... You can cherry pick any statistic you want, but that doesn't amount to a sound reason.

Arrogant... a dead-set 3200m stayer in the making, ran their next "superstar" The Autumn Sun to within a short margin over 2000m. That's after dropping back in distance from 2400m in the NZ Derby. It's plain and simple - the middle distance/staying form in Australia is very, very weak. What does that say for Winx? Well... she's beating up on horses that would run 30 lengths behind the winner in the Arc, yet she remains in Australia without challenge and racks up multiple wins in the who cares Group 1's (George Ryder/Chipping). Then.. you have a horse called Enable. She has won the four Oaks races, the Prix de Arc and Breeders' Cup Turf. Those wins came in four different countries alone. That's a test of a good horse.

Hartnell isn't bad for a second-rate UK export which took advantage of some absolute piss poor middle-distance/staying fields in Australia.... but I'm talking about GOOD horses. Before coming to Aus, Hartnell ran 15 lengths behind the winner in the St Leger Trial and 6 lengths behind in the St Leger. First start in Aus - just some 5 months later... runs second in the Chipping Norton.... doesn't that tell you something about the quality of non-sprinters in Australia? Do a smidge of research before posting next time.

Why would she be? She doesn't get any pressure throughout the race. Would love to see at least one runner apply pressure but they're running for second and they know it. I think her most exciting race to date is when she was caught in traffic in Melbourne. She, at least, had to fight for the win and wasn't handed it on a plate.

There hasn't.... but then again, the All Blacks wouldn't be considered the best in the world if they only won at Eden Park right? The fact that she's only equal best in the world isn't a knock against her, it's a knock against the connections. With money being no issue to the rich owners, you'd think they would have tested her against the best. I mean.... Brutal and Dreamforce just placed in the George Ryder. Their connections must be loving how weak these fields are! Once again.. in case you can't read well.... nothing against Winx, she's amazing, but until she takes on any horse of note (1600-2000), then there's always that ? That's MY opinion.

On that run, Brutal is going to be a nice type. Ran better than any other plodder Winx has faced this season.

Natural betting drift I would assume. $1.80 to $2.10 isn't that big. $1.80 to $3 is something more fishy and is usually because the horse has paraded averagely.

So someone tried to "horsenap" Pop Star Princess? I read on the other channel not long ago about a disgruntled owner who had a horse with Fred Cornege. Could there be a link?

Only won because I didn't back it! Always the way with the stable...

Lost a shoe and part of the hoof.

Offshore sites put their NZ fields up when the TAB does - and vice versa.

Actually well named, but still a poor choice.

I'm not even sure TAS would have defeated Happy Clapper in the Chipping. Taking on age-group opposition simply isn't the same. That being said, TAS has a race like the Arc in his future. Lets hope they travel with him before going off to stud.

She's a two-win filly..... We're talking about some of the best horses in the world here...

Seems much easier for the stewards to let it go, rather than investigate. Sloppy and lazy.

Winx isn't unbeaten. P.S. - TAS doesn't stand a chance against Winx. The Autumn Sun only narrowly defeated a moderate filly on Saturday.

What were the thoughts behind having an Otaki meeting so close to a Trentham meeting?

Drugs got anything to do with these horses breaking down?