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It's all well and good chasing the younger generation in this way , if it brings in revenue and hopefully brings some on board in a more regular way , but the way they have gone about is to completely disregard their core customer . We have discussed this plenty on here , about the withdrawal of services and the addition of new technologies whilst cutting out the older ones rather than a transitional period which looks after the long term clients during this updating . I hate to think of the huge number of lost punters , hence revenue , due to a lack of understanding of their core clients .

Worried , not at all , this is exactly what they are trying to foster , this is the demographic they promote racing to . They have done all they can to remove the image that racing and gambling is an older male past time , and have succeeded , they just forgot how much money those punters put thru the tote .

500mls of water weighs approx 1/2 kilo . He would not have weighed out right on weight , so a decent guzzle thinking he would sweat it out in the 20 mins or so before race could have taken him over . Just supposition on my part .

Think maybe he had a drink after weighing out . Just a guess .

Completely reversing what National was trying to achieve , go figure . This just proves that the major parties have all gone so much to the center that their policies intertwine so much there is no left or right any more . National will now do or say they will do , or backtrack on whatever they have to , to regain power . Maori Seats anyone .

And what do you think " crusher " and her crew are going to offer them to win back their vote , it will be the same or even more than the " communist " , politicians don't really care about that now as long as it gets them power .

Thomas , get with the topic , not about the splitting of races or whether they call one a consolation , i know it happens , but why one club gets to split a race and run both at the advertised stake and another splits a race but has one called a consolation . Why one set of owners get what they had their horse nominated for and another set gets the shaft . Now give me your opinion on that question , the one that was asked in the first post , and stop foisting yourself over a topic without actually discussing the original question .

The biggest issue is that a lot of people don't actually want the Hand Ups , just happy to get the Hand Outs with no questions asked . There is a large " woe is me " mentality around now .

Politics world wide is now all about " the cult of personality " , has been for a while .

When did all National supporters receive their tin foil hats .

It was the same , no worse no better , just like under this govt . If your life goes up and down depending on who's governing you've got a pretty fragile life , and in the long run , no matter who is in power , if it's that dependent it's going down the shitter . My wife and i have no kids and always worked , never got anything off any govt , so everything we have got , we got it .

YEA!!! And my life was so much better under the 9yrs of National . They are all as bad as each other .

A tough week in NZ horse racing , along with Rock on Wood we have lost 2 very talented race horses . I'm sure both sets of connections are doing it tough at the moment . Every horse lover has been in this position , i know i have , and for many it is like losing a family member . My thoughts go out to them .

Well Gisbourne raced once a year and i don't know why Riverton did but there have been other clubs wanting to but knocked back . Again inconsistency . What about answering the other part of my post , are you telling me CH wanted to short change one set of owners by only running a consolation , he doesn't fund it so why would he care .

Clubs can't just put up whatever stake they want , there have been many instances od clubs wanting to increase stakes of lower rated races to be told no . Some clubs i.e. Waverley get to put extra into their cup races . So why did NZTR put on 2 races at Otago where the ratings were mixed between both . But you are missing my original point , why are Otago getting to run 2 65's with a stake of $22,500 but at NP they have to run a consolation worth $10,000 . My point being the inconsistency , why are some owners being looked after but not others .

We have barely enough horses to work on one level far less trying to tier them .

You miss my point , why has one club been allowed to split and keep the higher stake for both but at the other they put a " consolation " on . At NP they split them on ratings but at Otago they just mix them up , why different methods . I'm sure CH had very little say in it . Plus i shouldn't have to ring anybody , if we were run as a professional friggin outfit we wouldn't have to be querying this kind of shit .

Till this happens , nothing changes . Or an owner takes a civil case .

Stockholm syndrome .

Plus i see that they are throwing more soft Black Type around at NP , a G3 2yo race with 8 runners with only 1 winner and a Listed 3yo fillies race , with slightly better form . Neither race should have Black Type , nothing of any significance has come out of either race in the past 5 years , only Saracino has won anything resembling a good race . My understanding is that these races get BT by virtue of the quality of race form and producing horses that go on to become successful race horses .

I did see NZTR did say after NP nom's that if sufficient numbers they would split and run a consolation but didn't look at Otago . I just don't get why one meeting gets both at $22,500 and the other doesn't , it is doing some owners a great disservice .

I see looking at the acceptances this morning that both New Plymouth and Otago meetings on Saturday both are running 9 races , and both have had a race split , NP's was a R65 1800 and Otago's a R65 2200 , numbers wise much the same for all 4 races , but where Otago has both races with a stake of $22,500 , NP has one at $22,500 and a consolation at $10,000 , WHY? . Both Otago fields are 1/2 runners less than NP , just don't get the thought process around why one set of owners gets the full stake they nominated for but another set gets told " be grateful your getting a run " . This is the crap that is pushing owners out the door . Perhaps someone can enlighten me .

And that ride on VC makes the argument , he obviously thought there was another round of the track, or maybe he thought he was on phar lap he, time to wake up .

I've known more people whose heart rate has gone up from patting horses than horses getting a pat . If the horse knows what your doing they love nothing more than a pat or a scratch . Some horses have quite thin skins and are more sensitive to being touched than others but in general they enjoy a rub , watch them in a mob , scratching each other with their teeth and rubbing flanks with their muzzles .

Since this type of conversation can come back to bite you on the arse i am going to cover mine with a small " arse covering " bet on W Pinn's ride in the Wgtn Cup , Vee Cee . Go VC .