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As per this article then, looks like Eagle farm was not Strathayr, but Evergreen Turf A timely reminder then about trying to re-invent the wheel https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/superracing/evergreen-turf-wins-multimilliondollar-contract-for-eagle-farm-track-redevelopment/news-story/f8aca7cfa369ac6f44a522eb514746e2

Seems a bit pointless, considering the Messara report, may recommend scrapping the current RB

Just to be clear, as you appear to have quite a bit of knowledge, I presume they do not class the Strathayr as synthetic. Eagle Farm was Strathayr and went horribly wrong, anyone know why

I think there is no doubt about the need to move tracks in NZ to a a better track surface, as you have mentioned Curious, they should have been putting one in each year. But a move to anything but a turf surface is a bridge too far, and could potentially be a total failure which the industry cannot afford to have happen

Thanks You can see it is a disaster waiting to unfold, they will go with a synthetic track and it will be a disaster. I have a scientific background, and my thoughts were that Strathayr made the most sense, in fact all the sense, but then a few have put up arguments against it, so I'm a bit lost

Curious, you are probably the most read, about the technicalities of the different all weather/synthetic track types. How about doing a summary for the good people on BOAY What each type is, relative costs, pros and cons of each, who has each type of track I've been under the impression that Strathayr is the standard, but perhaps not. A point I thought relevant, if you are trying to sell it the people who have to pay for it, us. Then to all intents and purposes, Strathayr is a turf track, no different in look to what we already have, whereas the other synthetics, look quite different Thanks

Thought you might say that, the cacophony of wails from the industry could be deafening tho

I wouldn't say almost unlimited potential marketing budget 80.4 mil revenue, 74.4 from RB, 71.6 paid in stakemoney. Lets say 5 mil Marketing, 10 mil per year on infrastructure, total stakes paid will take a 21% drop

Some good ideas there Barry The expectation is though, that the national body(NZTR) handles mainstream marketing and promotion, but they have a limited marketing resource or budget, so it is left to the disjointed, incohesive approach of individual clubs. Xmas at the Races is a great promotion, but I think it is only promoted to the industry, nothing mainstream

Nats have topped off at 44%, and have no friends, so they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. All those that said Peters would devour Ardern got it wrong. He seems to have respect for her. I've voted Nats all my life, then the cheese slid off the cracker and I went for Ardern. Those 56% who didn't vote for the Nats, probably a lot of lower to middle class NZ'ers in there, that thought to themselves, what booming economy, we've got to work hard just to stand still. You know all those people, the ones that make NZ tick, you see them every day, driving trucks, clerical workers, the ones that keep your power on, your phone connected, the roads open etc etc When I was mid 20's, I had a reasonable job, I could buy a house in Balmoral on just my income. I have a son, mid 20's, works hard, reasonable income, fiancee the same, group of friends the same, all work, but no expectation they could actually own their own home, 160K deposit, $3,500 a month mortgage repayments for 30 years, no thanks. They had a good chance at 400-500K for a house, but not 800k- million, the bar has been raised too high for most. And we've rented too, and got moved on twice, 42 days and 80 days notice, because we were at the whim of the landlords plans, no thanks again, many don't have a choice. Good to see you have an opinion Gavin, and don't copy and paste off Whaleoil, ad nauseum

Interestingly not a single horse or performance by a horse. I looked through all the group and listed races, and couldn't see any standouts

Went to that big jackpot meeting at Te Awamutu many years ago, never forget, the course was packed. We put in as a students syndicate, but never got anything

Thoroughbred racing in NZ wrapped up for 2017/18 season. Highlights, lowlights??

Interesting that you picked up on the dead cat on the table technique.

Am I detecting some angst there John

They couldn't get enough of Jochen Rindt last week. Down in weight and good course stats, was surprised to see it at 11/3.50 FF

You are putting up some great posts Gavin. You seem to have a way of writing that encapsulates the issues perfectly, and I'm not just talking about this subject, but also your views on RC and BOAY

Like I've said before, some very good posters on RC, mainly now in the Thoroughbred section, but geez, it really is smoke in mirrors stuff. Have they not heard of the Privacy Act, with Hunterthepunter's name being changed to Hunterthenutter. If you check the profile, the only recent visitor(last 24 hrs) is Fartoomuch. So they have either been given admin rights, or FTM is Scooby. The comp over there has a good prize, no format yet, but who cares, I'd pick spiders crawling up a wall if it mean't winning a prize like that. Not that you really need to have this communicated, but go for it, unlike the reverse, there are no repercussions, BOAY does not own the people who post on here, they simply just put up what they think people want, and leave them to decide.

Surely first, he has to show the Nats he can win the next election, before he gets a shot at showing the unwashed masses of NZ what he has Collins will be sharpening her knife

Well I started a thread last year on RC, before I got cyber cleansed, let's try on here. The Princess is back in a week and a half. Please, if you could indulge me, don't copy and paste other people's opinions, would like to know what you think

The data speaks for itself These guys are in the business of thoroughbred bloodstock, training horses, to a lot of them, must surely be a sideline, all those pain in the arse owners

No disrespect, but Simon Bridges does come across as a bit basic. How long before the Nats axe him? Whereas the Princess blossomed as soon as she took the reigns of the Labour mob, Simon has shown nothing, charisma, leadership etc etc

Good to see a couple more RC regulars joining in here Did you turn off the lights

Murray Baker and Andrew Forsman would be over the moon. How many other trainers would relocate to Te Rapa or other areas in the vicinity