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What would be the challenges If they stripped the track right back to a 2 foot depth to put in all the drainage layers, is there a concern about what they might find

Wouldn't that be a first, the body that supposedly runs racing, laying the law down to one of it's members But agree, lateral drains every 5m, is peace meal stuff compared with the comprehensive drainage works required in installing a Strathayr

The thing I found most interesting about the article was this part below about Josh Adams "I hadn't met him, but it took as long it takes walking to the letterbox to realise this is a rarely-seen talent. Not long after arriving, he rode two in trackwork for prominent trainer Nigel Tiley and Nigel, a friend, called to say: "This kid got off the horses and told me as much as I knew about them. He's special." The ability to do that, must present itself with some pretty tempting scenarios

If you could see some of the abusive emails Des, you would appreciate how much of an understatement, what you have said is

Worth a watch, a lot of ??? info being put forward I notice a very informed poster, La Zip, talking about "the nylon cushion/underlay doesn't respond well to NZ type conditions" Why would that be the case, what is so unique about NZ

The boss has been lying around for 2 weeks and is back tomorrow, so I'll try and hide this thread in The Vent. He probably won't get to read it till Tues, by the time he works his way through all the abusive emails

To give him credit, he is trying to do the right thing, but comes up well short, because he is not the sharpest pencil in the box, BUT, he is doing it for the wrong reason. If BOAY went away tomorrow(don't worry it's not), he would quickly revert to his old ways

Great article in the Royal NZ herald https://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=12092689&ref=twitter Great name for a jockey, was he named after that great handicapper of the 70's, Wiremu Anyhow, I notice a couple of newbies on RC(yes not proud to admit I have a look, a few posters I really enjoy), denigrating the article. What they have to realise is, the Herald is not a PR rag for NZ Racing. They are there to write hard hitting but human interest orientated stories to suit their own agendas. A shame they don't write a few more, warts and all............about the racing industry of course

I think it has finally struck home that he has some serious competition. BOAY, might not be as big or popular yet as RC, but it has certainly set him back on his heels Regardless, there are quite a few informed and interesting posters on RC that I like to read

Apologies in advance to anyone who doesn't like reading this sort of sniping, I can't resist, reading the pathetic claptrap

Snoops wouldn't have an original thought in that small collection of cells he passes off as a brain HESI Quite simply, most people just want to post about racing, without being abused or micro managed and have as many others as possible do so also, so there is a strong and healthy interchange of information and viewpoints SNOOPS differing opinions make a forum...personal insults dont. Hey, you might have to have a word to your buddy, you know the one, king of the personal insults

I saw this post from Snoopy, whoops I mean Scooby So what if he hasn't driven a winner, is he not allowed an opinion What next will be welcomed Commenting on jockey's rides even though you have never been on a horse Commenting on trainers decisions even though you haven't even trained a rocking horse Criticising Te Akau.............................. perhaps a bridge too far, probably still fund the site, not for long though, once they see how far it has fallen from grace

With the announcement of 3 A/W tracks to be built, probably appropriate to bump up this thread. Strathayr tracks are used in Aus and Asia, so I presume they will go for the same here in NZ, to provide the punter with some level of standardization and confidence. After all that is one of the reasons why you would spend all this money on doing it, to increase exported turnover

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/07/greyhound-deaths-likely-going-unreported-animal-rights-campaigner.html

They could always take the innovative approach and put one on the West Coast, isn't that Kumara Nuggets meeting legendary. If a Strathayr can handle monsoon rain at Shatin, it could probably do alright on the Coast

Better hurry up with that upgrade that's been coming for about 12 months, before the majority of posters disappear. Quite simply, most people just want to post about racing, without being abused or micro managed and have as many others as possible do so also, so there is a strong and healthy interchange of information and viewpoints....... and a fun environment The less that happens, the more they will look elsewhere. Upgrades or Fiji trips won't resolve that

I wonder if the wily old bugger had the Racing industry in mind when he negotiated the billion dollar(per year) regional fund as part of the coalition deal, knowing that any new tracks would probably be in the regions

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4 winners today, 3 at good prices You have to hand it to her, not just for winning the jockeys premiership, but with 6 possible meetings to go till season end, for over 1200 rides around the entire country No jockey in the past 5 years has even come close to that. Big question, will she take it easier next season

As you have said, I fail to see how closing any tracks, as long as they are not an unproductive drain on resource, can have any impact whatsoever on improving the situation

He can use the totals though to work out how much he has to cut RB costs, to be able to provide the substantial ongoing cash injection for stakes and infrastructure, that is needed to stimulate the racing scene. Bearing in mind, that he is not going to get that cash from the Govt, so that is the only place the money can come from...............deconstructing the huge empire that has been built up. Unless of course Winston has ideas about using the billion dollar regional fund to help racing, but I doubt this would ever happen. I hope also Messara puts in place the need for a substantial Marketing budget to promote Racing, after all, this lack of competing for the new generations leisure dollar is the main reason Racing has got into this ever decreasing death spiral

Exactly

Tell you what though Huey, he will have had a close look at the NZTR Annual Reports, to see, for each club, what the data was for Oncourse turnover Total turnover Export turnover From that he can probably work out approx how much NZRB is getting from the wagering on each clubs activity Then relate that to the total stakes paid by each club, and the total funding paid to each club

You would expect Messara is smart enough to know that asking for Government money is not on and therefore you would expect him to come up with a sustainable plan for growth that is funded within the constraints of current cash generation Net betting revenue is on track for 302 million this season, so plenty of money in the system Unfortunately it is going to cost 218 million to get that 302

Racing: Major report on home turn 18 Jul, 2018 5:00am 4 minutes to read Australian racing supremo John Messara says he is confident of meeting the deadline. Photo / Getty Images NZ Herald By: Michael Guerin The most important report in New Zealand racing's recent history is on target to be delivered to Minister for Racing Winston Peters by the end of the month. And the man charged with making recommendations which could be crucial to the future of the racing industry says he has concentrated mainly on the thoroughbred industry. Australian racing supremo John Messara was asked by Peters to write a strategic report to provide advice to the Government on how to fix racing's woes. Peters said the Messara review would assist the government in determining if the Racing Act and the proposed Racing Amendment Bill, elements of which should provide New Zealand racing with millions of dollars of extra overseas turnover income, are fit for purpose. Messara says his report is just weeks away and should be in Peters' hands by the target date of the end of the racing season, July 31. "I am confident of meeting that deadline and while we haven't finished compiling the report yet it will be around 50-60 pages, maybe more," Messara told the Herald. The NSW-based racing administrator estimates he has spent between two and three weeks on the ground in New Zealand since being asked to look into the industry here and has met with the heads of all three codes and New Zealand Racing Board boss John Allen. "I have been over there three times and met with a lot of people while we have also had submissions from a wide range of people in the industry." But while the report could have a huge impact on the way New Zealand's racing industry is run for decades to come, Messara says he has concentrated more on the thoroughbred code than harness racing or greyhounds because that is what he was asked to do. "But I am not going to get into the specifics of the report or the discussions I have had," says Messara "I will be happy to talk about those after it has been released but I will deliver it to the Minister and it will be up to him to release it." Messara being asked to concentrate on fixes for the thoroughbred industry is no surprise on two fronts. Firstly, it is the one of the three racing codes in New Zealand that has fallen the furthest behind its Australian equivalent in terms of stake money and infrastructure, particularly New South Wales racing, which Messara was at the head of for part of a booming financial resurgence over the last decade. And secondly it was serious players in the thoroughbred industry, like Sir Patrick Hogan, who were among the most vocal Peters supporters before last year's election, with some inside the racing industry reportedly voting for New Zealand First for that reason alone. Messara says while thoroughbred racing will be at the centre of his report the harness and greyhound codes should not see that as a negative. "I think a stronger thoroughbred industry would be good for New Zealand racing of all codes," he said. Messara's suggested strategies around how to increase stakes, pay for much-needed track maintenance, potential venue closures and even the building of New Zealand's first all-weather track, if as expected they are covered by the review, will be eagerly anticipated. But perhaps the most important question being asked by those at the head of all three racing codes is what will the report suggest about the future role of the New Zealand Racing Board. There is a strong push, particularly from some of the thoroughbred code's leaders, for NZRB's core duties to be outsourced, with its betting operations an obvious target, and with overseas suitors keen to tender for that role. It would be surprising if Messara's report didn't cover that outsourcing or licensing of an overseas operator to run betting on New Zealand racing but that could require changes to the Racing Act which could be hard to get passed. Reducing the number of racing venues in New Zealand also looks certain to be recommended but again that will be met with considerable resistance in some regions. So while the report is near completion, the debates must just be getting ready to intensify. Crunch time • Australian expert John Messara is set to deliver his strategic review of New Zealand racing at the end of the month. • He says it concentrates primarily on the thoroughbred code because that is what he was asked to do. • The most anticipated part of the report will be Messara's recommendations around the role of the New Zealand Racing Board. • The report, which will be at least 50 pages, will be delivered to Minister for Racing, Winston Peters.