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  1. I'm picking you're not a $1 punter, so even at only $10, that is some sort of collect. How about putting up a prize, like a trip to Fiji, for a comp that we will arrange someone to run Perhaps not, might upset a few
  2. 2 sports spring to mind that are very well served are Cricket and Rugby League, both with a number of very charismatic and accurate presenters who were former players at the top level. Some of these guys like Greg Alexander and Nasser Hussain to name only a couple, don't miss a trick and give an insight into aspects of the game as they unfold. So in Racing in NZ you need someone who has been involved at the coalface, that leaves either a jockey or a trainer, and that is where you draw a blank, I can't think of anyone, so we are stuck with some of the goof balls that present now
  3. I realise it was a nothing field, but could not believe the time on the TAB website 1.59.30, surely no open class race could be run so slowly, so checked NZTR, yep you guessed, 1.50.93
  4. There was another one though, quite a few years before this
  5. NZTR News 2nd Racy Girls 2014/15 Season Calendar 24 June 2014, 9:07 a.m. 10 years later BackstretchNZ Productions has produced the 2nd Racy Girls 2014/15 season calendar, dedicated in memory of Lisa Chittick with charitable donations benefiting Leukaemia and Blood Cancer New Zealand (LBC) THE CALENDAR: Representing the industry - arriving on raceday, combining the colour, the glamour, the female athlete competing equally alongside men, illustrating their more feminine alluring sensual side outside boots, breaches, silks, helmets and goggles! 6 NZ Trainers and 6 NZ Studfarms have shown their recognition of these professional young ladies as an integral aspect of the industry through sponsoring a page within the Racy Girls 2014/15 calendar - Each jockey is attired in a dress made by renowned raceday wear designer OOBY RYN to emulate their sponsors colours, these outfits will be up for auction worn by the girls on the night of the Official Launch and Fundraiser evening with 100% of proceeds raised through all items auctioned directly benefiting LBC. A limited signed edition will also go under the hammer Various donated items/services available through a Silent Auction Launch and Fundraiser: DATE: 03 Aug 2014 TIME: 6pm ENTRY: $10 - directly benefiting LBC VENUE: THE CLUBHOUSE SPORTS BAR AND GRILL TAYLOR STREET CAMBRIDGE RACEWAY CAMBRIDGE 07 8237111 MEET THE JOCKEYS MEET THE SPONSORS LIVE AUCTION SILENT AUCTION CALENDAR SALES - $30 BAR MEALS AVAILABLE Calendars available through the Racy Girls website and at various NI race meets. www.racygirls2014.co.nz (will be up and running 1st week of July) New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Inc.
  6. Everyone's favourite destination tomorrow, the odds on Kyrie won't be very good
  7. The female jockeys in NZ, actually did a calendar quite a few years ago, all very tasteful and I think sanctioned by NZTR, plus I think it was to raise funds for a good cause.........................injured jockeys fund??
  8. We often talk about the self proclaimed champion of Racing's foot soldier, being the last person you would ever want to be in the trenches with, relying on. It would be tally ho boys, over the top and get em........................................................... you first
  9. UNINFORMED ARTICLE DELIVERS THE WRONG MESSAGE IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA 4 July 2018 Racing has been getting a bad deal in mainstream media which seems to go hand-in-hand with the media backhanders constantly being dished out to Acting Prime Minister and Minister of Racing Winston Peters. AM Show host Duncan Garner is a regular offender but many of his comments seem to come from sheer ignorance, his ego, and a political bias that places him in the camp firmly opposed to Winston Peters, NZ First and its policies. Then you get the article that appeared on the inside front page of the Sunday-Star Times on the 24th of June which was headed, “Officials warned against racing tax breaks.” This was trash tabloid journalism at its very worst. It began, “Inland Revenue officials have warned against tax breaks for the racing industry, saying they could cost the Crown up to $40 million in lost revenue – but the Government is proceeding regardless.” A pathetic statement that is so far from the truth, was not substantiated in any form and was credited to have come from unnamed officials at Inland Revenue. No one in the racing industry was asked to comment on that remark to provide some balance. It was a shallow attempt to leave racing and the Minister in a bad light but it failed because its author Andrea Vance was out of her depth on the subject, didn’t do the research and sounded politically motivated. The mystery is why was it written at all and what was such a nonsense article doing on page two. Vance went to the trouble of phoning Sir Patrick Hogan to try and stir up a storm in a teacup over the unauthorised advert that appeared in The Informant, placed by Hogan just prior to last year’s election, but the Hall of Famer who was at home recovering from his dual knee replacement operations wasn’t taking the bait. “The journalist Vance phoned me and tried to wind me up but I gave her very little comment,” Hogan told The Informant this week. “I just listened but she tried to wind me up. She was trying to put words into my mouth that they could print but I picked it straight away. When I read it I was very pleased that I had said very little. “It was an article that was completely unwarranted,” continued Hogan. “It didn’t justify even going to print. It was based on nothing whatsoever. They were certainly having a strong dig at the industry.” Well-known Hamilton accountant and Chairman of the New Zealand Racing Hall of Fame Chris Luoni was angered enough by the article to write a stern rebuttal which stated, “This article is factually incorrect in respect of the income tax changes for new horse breeders which were announced in the recent NZ Budget. “Vance quotes IRD officials who believe that tax breaks could cost the Crown up to $40 million in lost revenue. This is also factually incorrect and misleading.” The comprehensive three-page rebuttal by Luoni that pointed out and corrected all the inaccuracies of the story, in conclusion, said, “It annoys me that journalists like Vance write articles without proper fact-checking. “Vance has based her article on an unknown IRD official being quoted as saying that ‘the cost to the Crown could be up to $40 million.’ This statement is unsubstantiated and from an unknown person (if any) – and my response is, ‘prove it.’ “She has not sought comment from people involved in the bloodstock industry and indeed the bloodstock industry is at fault for not having spokesmen who respond to inaccurate articles written like this. “I believe industry representative bodies like Harness Racing NZ and NZ Thoroughbred Racing must show leadership and have spokespeople to respond to such irresponsible articles which only seek to undermine a genuine NZ industry.” Another accountant in the industry with a strong horse ownership involvement but who prefers not to be named was also critical of the story. He said, “I was wondering what the background to that article was because it is very odd for a government department like the IRD to have a pot-shot at a Minister. “There’s a bit more behind it because one of the top political journalists Andrea Vance wrote the article which I thought was a bit odd as well. The inside front page of the Sunday-Star Times – didn’t quite deserve its place. There was no substance to it – it was all a bit of puffery – hot air really.” On the question of GST in racing, he also had this to say, “The racehorse is an essential supply to the wagering business which it cannot operate without. However, the IRD’s ruling means that the GST incurred by the horse owner in making that supply, “the horse to bet on”, cannot be recovered. “This situation, I believe, is peculiar to the racing Industry where a recreational activity or hobby is a key input into a taxable activity (wagering). This IRD ruling places the racing and wagering business in a serious cost disadvantage relative to other forms of wagering in New Zealand and makes it internationally less competitive. “Other wagering businesses in New Zealand (e.g. casinos, gaming) are permitted to claim back the GST that they incur on the products they supply to operate their wagering activities (e.g. gaming machines, roulette tables etc). Therefore, these forms of wagering have a significant cost advantage over investing in racehorses as the costs of their inputs are in essence 15% lower. “I’ve done some numbers which say racing is being slaughtered by the tax man,” he continued. “They are unique numbers and what they show is completely the opposite to what those boofheads at the tax department are saying. “If you take the NZRB stuff, the code stuff, and the operational costs, the industry is losing almost $300 million a year – this is the costs to the owners – they are public numbers taken from various places. The owners’ costs are all in the Size and Scope Report. “When you put them all together, add them up, and eliminate the stakes that are paid to owners, it shows this massive loss but that doesn’t include the capital investment in horses. Consolidate the results from an investors perspective and include them in the numbers, the result is that a loss of that magnitude is not sustainable – no business is going to survive with that outcome. “The tax department seems to think that this business is run by the elite and we have truck-loads of money and they can tax the hell out of us. All the owners are subsidising racing to the tune of that almost $300 million – that’s point one. Point Two is that if you add up the GST the racing board is paying, the racing duty on betting and the GST paid by the owners on their racing costs and it comes to $88 million dollars. “So here’s a business that’s losing nearly $300 million and we are paying $88 million in tax as well. We contribute $1.6 million to GDP as well and we employ 14,400 people full time and the total participants in racing are over 58,000 according to the NZRB’s Size and Scope Report prepared by IER Pty Ltd. “You might say, ‘well, the NZRB make $140 million a year profit – but the racing codes have to spend $40 million between them doing their operating thing so you are immediately down to $100 million. To get all the horses and dogs to the racing industry costs $389 million a year and they generate the $100 million in profit – that’s what is paid out in stakes to the people who spend $389 million. “You don’t have to be a mathematician to work out the extent of the loss,” he concluded. The money the codes spends on getting all the horses and dogs to the races is not a controllable figure but GST is certainly a contentious issue and one that needs to be addressed in the coming industry overhaul. Chris Luoni has also written a paper questioning why all racing entities in New Zealand are treated as hobbyists by the Commissioner of Inland Revenue when that very treatment contradicts the wording in the GST Act. Luoni says, “One major matter of concern to the bloodstock industry is that the IRD’s paper QB 17/04 has a major flaw in that this policy paper has some strange requirements which are not consistent with the GST Act and therefore are incorrect in law. “For example, the definition of a taxable activity in section 6(1) (a) of the GST Act does not require the company to earn a pecuniary profit in order to be conducting a taxable activity. “However, the following statements are made in QB 17/04: “…The Commissioner considers that, for syndicates whose activities are limited to racing horses, a taxpayer would need to establish all of the following matters (i.e. in order to be considered a taxable activity): “1. The syndicate is formed not for the personal interest or pleasure of the participants, but for the purpose of making a profit from the activity, and it is operated in that manner. “2. The activity of the syndicate or partnership is organised to achieve a pecuniary profit and operates in a systematic fashion that on an objective assessment appears to materially reduce the element that luck plays in whether any prize money is won. “3. A significant amount of time is involved in performing the activity undertaken by the manager of the syndicate or partnership including acquiring and managing the horses that are assisting in meeting financial imperatives. “Why is the Commissioner producing a policy paper which is stating that the activity must be organised to achieve a pecuniary profit when section 6 of the GST Act does not require it? “It would appear that the ‘Profit Type Analysis’ the Commissioner employs is founded on ‘their view’ of “private recreational pursuit or hobby” and that the profit-making purpose is used by the Commissioner as a proxy to preclude exceptions for hobbies. In other words, the Commissioner is taking a position that he considers is a private, recreational pursuit or hobby, and consequently is an excluded activity for GST purposes…” “The racing industry deserves to be treated with more respect and in terms of the GST Act each and every entity is entitled to be considered on its merits for GST registration and not be subject to the Commissioner’s blanket position that all “racing entities” are considered to be hobbyists.” To read this and other important industry stories in The Informant each week email ADMIN@RACINGMEDIA.CO.NZ. Mention W@W and get 20% off an online subscription.
  10. At the same time they could also think about the values of people who splash out money on new ventures, prior to meeting historical commitments
  11. Wait till Messara's report comes out, lambasting will be taken to a new level by various people in the racing industry, would you expect anything less
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  13. And it would appear, that they can also go into peoples accounts, that are supposedly password protected, and change details such as log in names. If I was still at RC, I would be very worried about the security of my privacy, as it appears, that anything goes
  14. Apparently Invision(they do the software for BOAY and RC) do have a small file that site administrators can purchase that allows them to look at private mail.
  15. hesi

    Today is D Day

    Was thinking the same thing in respect to Pike River All barriers to progressing things were removed so that anyone who had expertise in the matter could be utilised.
  16. hesi

    Today is D Day

    Just one last group to go They are calling it the most difficult and daring rescue of modern times
  17. hesi

    On this day 10 July

    Yep, big day tomorrow and Thursday for England in particular, and I know there is one avid Belgian fan on BOAY
  18. You make a point that I would like to see answered. There are provisions in the Harmful Digital Communications Act, that allow certain types of behaviour to be addressed, offensive posts etc etc But what provisions are there, to hold to account a site owner that regularly, and selectively disregards offensive posts(and thus by doing so encourages further offensive behaviour), allows unsubstantiated inferences to be made etc etc. As I understand, there has to be a complaint first So you put in a complaint, become branded as a troublemaker and risk being banned So that leads to a further question, what is the redress for retaliatory action. Sorry to extend this further Rees, was just interested to know.................................. OR, are as some believe, if you own a chat website, you can do what you like
  19. Times have changed Ghosty
  20. hesi

    On this day 10 July

    The Rainbow Warrior was also sunk in Auckland Harbour in 1985
  21. 1967 - NZ introduced decimal currency
  22. Even Hollywood struggled with trying to recreate race footage. The race scenes in Seabiscuit and Secretariat looked fake, in the end they just showed Secretariat's 31 length rout in the Belmont
  23. To be fair and balanced, there are quite a few morons and bigots over there, but some very good posters, who I enjoy reading, such as Tasman Man, Tauhei Notts and The Torch, who I know is associated with the Hawera racing scene, so probably knows quite a bit of the background to the Kiwi story. Not limited to those 3, quite a few other interesting posters, but the lunatics do tend to run the asylum over there. Hopefully some of them will start contributing on here.....not the lunatics please Some awesome new initiatives underway here, that may make a few think twice, and as a few have said, there should be no reason why people who want to can't contribute to both sites. A site does not own it's members, those people have free choice to post when and where they want
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