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That's his style Downplay the serious stuff Up play the frivolous stuff to suit

He's done alright Expert climate scientist - NZ had its warmest year ever Expert Biochemist - year 1 in Vet degree Feelaar - should win the Melbourne Cup Political scientist supreme - coalition falling to bits RC - going like a house on fire

Well they couldn't could they, and the Minister had to take the extreme step of appointing an outsider to sort it out. That's about as cot case as it gets

Might be something to do with freedom of choice and democracy, a luxury we take for granted.

What you guys are neglecting, is that NZ First will disappear into thin air once Winston retires ie. no 5%, no elected members So I presume a lot of the 5-6% he pulled, will migrate, probably to National, which may just get them to 50%. And we all know what little regard the Nats had for Racing in 9 years, so Racing can expect no favours from future Governments.......they could of course get their own act together

Firstly, 3 admissions, I only bet with the TAB, secondly, horror of horrors, I mainly like to do the all up place betting mainly with faves, starting with $200, I only bet for a bit of excitement. The only other bet type is $50 win. so Rock On was good. The TAB cramp their FF place odds on faves so much, 1.15, 1.20 etc, that it is not worth it. The problem is, if you go with the tote and usually get a better price(Melody Belle), then that limits you to the same meeting. You must go with a Multi to select across different meetings. With regard to what you say above, many times the TAB price faves at cramped place FF odds, and the horse misses a place. But as you say, very few would have been on at 1.15, so they are not actively trying to entice you and actually act like bookmakers

For so long the TAB had Melody Belle at $1.25 FF place. Anyone who put it in their multi's at that price, must feel hard done by, as it paid $1.70 on the tote. Poor effort on the TAB's part to offer such restrictive odds, very few would have taken anyway at that price

For once we agree, Nats have a real problem, and Judith Collins is not the answer to them polling higher. Who is?, well how long is a piece of string

None is right, but don't get me wrong, the effort is appreciated and it was not just for me. No regrets, I got a nice all up place bet in today, plus a nice collect off Rock On in the cup at Awapuni

Yes, commented on your other thread

Yes well done Barry, now all you need is Gift of Power to roll in

That was my point

Good luck, you would be better off putting a $10 all up or multi on your 3 selections, that way you get to keep a nice wad of cash if you win

I presume you'll be giving this good advice on the other channel

$17 winner

Classic, and I always wondered if you had a sense of humour

Here you go, judge for yourself, Xcellent was the last Boxing Day winner Winners of the New Zealand Derby[edit] Year Winner Jockey Trainer Owner Time 2018 Vin De Dance Jason Waddell Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman OTI Racing (Mgr: T Henderson), L Muollo & Kilted Taniwha Syndicate 2:28.44 2017 Gingernuts Opie Bosson Stephen Autridge & Jamie Richards Te Akau Gingernuts Syndicate 2:28.27 2016 Rangipo Vinnie Colgan Tony Pike John & Margaret Thompson 2:28.89 2015 Mongolian Khan Opie Bosson Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman Inner Mongolia Rider Horse Industry 2:28.40 2014 Puccini Michael Walker Peter & Jacob McKay Monovale Holdings Ltd 2:28.39 2013 Habibi Vinnie Colgan Donna & Dean Logan Mrs H J & P J Crofskey & Mrs P A McIntyre 2:27.58 2012 Silent Achiever James McDonald Roger James K J Hickman 2:33.55 2011 Jimmy Choux Jonathan Riddell John Bary Chouxmaani Investments Ltd. 2:38.35 2010 Military Move Michael Walker Shaune Ritchie Steven Lo 2:27.91 2009 Coniston Bluebird Scott Seamer Bede Murray Murray Livestock, J O'Brien, J & R Standford & J Wilson 2:31.04 2008 C'est La Guerre David Walker Kevin Myers K Barker et al. 2:33.47 2007 Redoute's Dancer Vinnie Colgan Tim Martin P. Silvestro 2:27.24 2006 Wahid Leith Innes Allan Sharrock Noel H. & Ron T. Stanley 2:27.42 2004 Xcellent Michael Coleman Michael Moroney G W Breingan et al. 2:32.01 2003 Cut the Cake Michael Coleman Michael Moroney N M Anderson/G W Breingan et al. 2:28.88 2002 St Reims Greg Childs Chris McNab Rob McAnulty et al. 2:28.57 2001 Leica Guv Scott Seamer Jeff McVean R A and Mrs R J Scarborough 2:28.98 2000 Hail Noel Harris Bruce Marsh A J Cunningham & R B Marsh 2:32.27 1999 Hades Vinnie Colgan Roger James Mrs F E & R A Dixon 2:27.57 1998 So Casual Damien Oliver Ross Taylor G C P Beadel et al. 2:24.80 1997 Zonda Vinnie Colgan Roger James Hundalee Derby Syndicate 2:31.58 1996 Great Command Darren Beadman Michael Moroney H J & J Chan, R R McAnulty & D Tsang 2:27.97 1995 Roysyn Vinnie Colgan Roger James Mrs B P & J B Harvey 2:30.10 1994 Look Who's Talking Grant Cooksley Nigel Tiley Unifaith Limited 2:28.18 1993 Popsy Lance O'Sullivan D & P O'Sullivan Barnaby & Co Ltd 2:27.24 1992 The Phantom Chance Robert Vance Colin Jillings W B Ballin 2:25.98 1991 Cavallieri Grant Cooksley Laurie Laxon L K Laxon, S Shew & F & Mrs Z Sing 2:29.18 1990 Surfers Paradise Lance O'Sullivan D & P O'Sullivan F Cheung, K Chong, G Fong & J D Smith 2:28.02 1989 Castletown Bruce Compton Patrick Busuttin P M Busuttin, B J McCahill & K P Morris 2:29.28 1988 The Gentry Greg Childs Ray & Kerry Verner L W Davis, H K Haub, P J Walker & Haunui Farm 2:27.49 1987 Satisfy Maurice Campbell N D Nicoloff N D & P H Nicoloff 2:35.41 1986 Tidal Light Grant Cooksley Jim Gibbs S A Taylor 2:28.63 1985 Bonecrusher Gary Stewart Frank Ritchie Peter J. Mitchell 2:29.47 1984 Jolly Jake Chris McNab Alan Jones I W Allan 2:27.39 1983 I'm Henry Robert Vance Colin Jillings A J & M M Bates 2:29.78 1982 Our Flight Maurice Campbell Errol Skelton J W Rusher 2:32.48 1981 Isle of Man Robert Vance Davina Waddell R F Langsford and D L Waddell 2:28.89 1980 Ring the Bell Nigel Tiley Neville Atkins E M Mackley and B P Wild 2:30.23 1979 Ruling Lad Garry Phillips Brian Deacon E N Baker 2:35.38 1978 Kaiser Alwin Tweedie Neville Atkins T J and Mrs Doole 2:29.42 1977 Uncle Remus Robert Vance Colin Jillings K F Clotworthy and Mrs G M Donaldson 2:29.51 1976 Silver Lad D Wyatt B Petley D and Mrs Nicholls and R R Peel-Walker 2:29.76 1975 Balmerino Maurice Campbell Brian Smith R K Stuart 2:31.21 1974 Mansingh 1973 Furys Order

In the same boat, so come on you harness folk, get tipping, or you'll have to go back to the other site................ that's right, you can't

Well one thing I can pick that you guys will all pick, is that Melody Belle is way under, from that outside but one draw. But Volpe Veloce must then be slightly over(10/3) from virtually the same alley. Won this last year relatively easily when drawing 7 of 10, albeit, I think there was some rain on the track

?? Now at $10

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12074623

Next you will be pricing Danny

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/racing/news/article.cfm?c_id=53&objectid=12183315 A wry smile The new stables The resident buglar Danny the pony Bonecrusher statue

Always were idiots DB, the internet now gives them an easy way to have a say, that never existed 15 years ago

Looking like it's between the 3 class horses of the field, but what do I know, how about the BOAY 'pros' price the field